McCroskey Posted March 13, 2022 at 02:59 AM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 02:59 AM Some years ago, I obtained my C&R. It expired long ago and I didn't renew it because at the time I needed to hold on to my money more than I needed another gun. Later, I wound up selling off much of what I bought for various reasons. Now that I'm living outside of the City of Chicago and am a homeowner, I'm in a bit better position to start purchasing again. Southern Ohio Gun closed up shop a few years ago, but I see a couple other dealers I bought from are around and seem to have some stuff in inventory. And there's always gunbroker. What are people's impressions of the state of the C&R world these days? Is it still worthwhile to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerxx Posted March 13, 2022 at 03:07 AM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 03:07 AM I have mine and a few SBR's, worth it IMO since they changed the law that your don't have to have your CLEO approve it, you just have to notify them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted March 13, 2022 at 11:49 AM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 11:49 AM The days of the couple hundred dollar SKS and 89 dollar Mosin are long gone, which is the reason I got mine many years ago. I've kept mine current and keep a few copies in my truck. It's come in very handy (No running back 3 days later) at gun shows and out of the way shops where I picked up some 60's and early 70's Colt's. For the price and relative ease of obtaining, I'd say it's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted March 13, 2022 at 12:36 PM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 12:36 PM Don't forget that many online retailers will give you dealer pricing if you have a C&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted March 13, 2022 at 03:24 PM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 03:24 PM On 3/13/2022 at 7:36 AM, mauserme said: Don't forget that many online retailers will give you dealer pricing if you have a C&R. Where? I’d appreciate the knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted March 13, 2022 at 04:09 PM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 04:09 PM On 3/13/2022 at 10:24 AM, Rilo said: Where? I’d appreciate the knowledge You have to check with the sites you use but places like Brownell's will give you dealer pricing if they have a copy of your C&R license on file. It 5% or 10% off qualifying items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted March 13, 2022 at 04:45 PM Share Posted March 13, 2022 at 04:45 PM Thank you Mauser,I will try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted March 14, 2022 at 11:43 PM Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 at 11:43 PM Ok, looks like I'm gonna get my C&R again). 😀 On the topic of the days of cheap guns being over, I bought my MN 91/30 around 2002. I think I paid $90 to someone on GunsAmerica and $20 for the dealer transfer. Now I see them listed for $600 on GunBroker. Same with my Nagant M1891... Paid like $80 from J&G 5-6 years ago and I'm seeing even those are up in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted March 14, 2022 at 11:59 PM Share Posted March 14, 2022 at 11:59 PM Back then you could almost not give away the M/N's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted March 15, 2022 at 02:57 PM Share Posted March 15, 2022 at 02:57 PM On 3/12/2022 at 9:07 PM, aerxx said: I have mine and a few SBR's, worth it IMO since they changed the law that your don't have to have your CLEO approve it, you just have to notify them. Do you mean you have to notify your CLEO that you're getting your C&R or you're notifying them that you're getting an SBR? or both? In either case, is there a sample letter out there I can use? I should get my C&R too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted March 15, 2022 at 03:00 PM Share Posted March 15, 2022 at 03:00 PM you send them a copy of the C&R application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 15, 2022 at 04:36 PM Share Posted March 15, 2022 at 04:36 PM My china made SKS was about $100. The thing eats cheap wolf steel like the fat kid at a buffet. It was the ideal piece I would make sure to bring to the range when my BIL would come along. The guy never touched paper but could fire a semiauto like it was full. I offered a .22 to ease the pain on my wallet but that was too boring for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:08 AM Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:08 AM On 3/15/2022 at 9:57 AM, solareclipse2 said: Do you mean you have to notify your CLEO that you're getting your C&R or you're notifying them that you're getting an SBR? or both? In either case, is there a sample letter out there I can use? I should get my C&R too. Yep, part of the application process is sending a copy to the CLEO and when you fill out the application, it will auto generate a CLEO copy for you. When I lived in Chicago, I had to send it to Garry McCarthy 😆 No idea if he even looked at it, but he didn't try and object to the process as far as I know. I included a brief, polite, typed letter explaining why I'm sending it, which seems to help avoid confusion. The process is fairly painless, from what I recall. Pretty sure the ATF's local agent called and chatted with me for a few minutes and explained timeframe to receive the license and what else they would send. You'll get a package with a bunch of stuff in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:26 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:26 PM Are C&R Licensees tax exempt? My 03 should be coming soon and I have 2 SBRs in the pipeline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:57 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 03:57 PM I would very seriously doubt it. 03's are specifically for personal collecting and not a license to deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:01 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:01 PM I got my C&R to buy an SBR but every time I consider go through with it, I get worried about what would happen if the ATF decided to not renew my permission slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:09 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:09 PM My favorite part of getting a C&R was the description on my credit card statement: FIREARMS&EXPLOSIVES SE $30 Other Services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:49 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 04:49 PM On 3/16/2022 at 10:26 AM, ealcala31 said: Are C&R Licensees tax exempt? My 03 should be coming soon and I have 2 SBRs in the pipeline... you might be as you have an 01 also don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted March 16, 2022 at 05:36 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 05:36 PM I can't use my 01 or my SOT CL III for an SBR. Only the C&R, welcome to f'en IL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted March 16, 2022 at 07:29 PM Share Posted March 16, 2022 at 07:29 PM On 3/16/2022 at 12:36 PM, ealcala31 said: I can't use my 01 or my SOT CL III for an SBR. Only the C&R, welcome to f'en IL... Oh…….I have no words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted March 17, 2022 at 03:27 AM Share Posted March 17, 2022 at 03:27 AM On 3/16/2022 at 11:01 AM, davel501 said: I got my C&R to buy an SBR but every time I consider go through with it, I get worried about what would happen if the ATF decided to not renew my permission slip. You'll probably have to either sell or surrender it b4 your license expires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerxx Posted March 26, 2022 at 09:27 PM Share Posted March 26, 2022 at 09:27 PM On 3/16/2022 at 10:27 PM, ealcala31 said: You'll probably have to either sell or surrender it b4 your license expires. Just the lower though. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted April 24, 2022 at 05:56 PM Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 at 05:56 PM What's the current average wait time? I can't remember anymore. I sent my application and the LEO copy off mid March, haven't got the phone call yet and check hasn't been cashed. From what I remember, they'll call for the interview and ask some basic common sense questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 26, 2022 at 11:03 PM Share Posted April 26, 2022 at 11:03 PM I've never received a phone call. I just send it in and a few weeks later there it is. Can't speak to current wait times though. I need to renew again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:34 AM Share Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:34 AM On 3/16/2022 at 11:01 AM, davel501 said: I got my C&R to buy an SBR but every time I consider go through with it, I get worried about what would happen if the ATF decided to not renew my permission slip. In the NFA groups and the SOT Dealers said you can call ATF and convert it back to Title I firearm. For example an AR15 SBR, just buy a 16in upper and sell the old upper. You'll be out the $200 tax stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:39 AM Share Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:39 AM On 4/24/2022 at 12:56 PM, McCroskey said: What's the current average wait time? I can't remember anymore. I sent my application and the LEO copy off mid March, haven't got the phone call yet and check hasn't been cashed. From what I remember, they'll call for the interview and ask some basic common sense questions. It took mine 1 month, it would have been shorter but I did not fill out the RP. I figured why would you need a RP if it's a C&R License. The licensing branch emailed me, I filled one out, scanned, and emailed it in 20 minutes. They added it to my 01 & SOT file. It took 2 more weeks from that point to receive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted May 1, 2022 at 03:16 PM Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 at 03:16 PM Well, I figured out what happened when the manila envelope came back to me last week saying it has 20 cents postage due. I got the postage rate from the USPS website and it looked correct to me, but who knows... some postmaster decided it needed more postage. So now we start all over again because I'm not sending it in with a month-old date on it. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted May 1, 2022 at 04:18 PM Share Posted May 1, 2022 at 04:18 PM Just checked mine... Application dated and mailed 1/5 CC charged 1/13 C&R License dated 2/1 Received shortly thereafter. There was no phone call. Hope your send to receive time is equally short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 22, 2022 at 12:46 AM Share Posted May 22, 2022 at 12:46 AM On 5/1/2022 at 10:16 AM, McCroskey said: Well, I figured out what happened when the manila envelope came back to me last week saying it has 20 cents postage due. I got the postage rate from the USPS website and it looked correct to me, but who knows... some postmaster decided it needed more postage. So now we start all over again because I'm not sending it in with a month-old date on it. 🙄 I know from a renewal or two ago, when I messed up the application they sent me, they prefer to use a pre-printed version. When I called to ask for a blank application they were very nice, and emailed another pre-filled one. I mailed my renewal late in the afternoon of 4/30/2022. They received it 5/2/2022, and I got the renewal license yesterday, 5/20/2022. Still no phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted May 22, 2022 at 11:46 AM Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 at 11:46 AM On 5/21/2022 at 7:46 PM, mauserme said: I know from a renewal or two ago, when I messed up the application they sent me, they prefer to use a pre-printed version. When I called to ask for a blank application they were very nice, and emailed another pre-filled one. I mailed my renewal late in the afternoon of 4/30/2022. They received it 5/2/2022, and I got the renewal license yesterday, 5/20/2022. Still no phone call. Good advice. I had the pre-filled one on my laptop, so I just adjusted the dates and mailed em again. a couple weeks ago. Those pre-fill PDF templates make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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