Squints08 Posted January 23, 2022 at 02:29 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 02:29 AM Are these firearms allowed for CCW qualification shooting requirements? My father says his renewal class requires a concealable handgun and is concerned my Browning Buckmark with a dot won’t be allowed. I say he’s fine but he seeks further information. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted January 23, 2022 at 02:50 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 02:50 AM As far as I know, there is no specific handgun requirement in the law? Also IMHO just about any kind of handgun is technically 'concealable'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 23, 2022 at 03:42 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 03:42 AM When I took the CCL class, the instructors rented out a Ruger SR22. It didn't have a red dot, but the red dot is irrelevant. I've heard other instructors do similar things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 23, 2022 at 03:52 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 03:52 AM "An applicant for a new license shall provide proof of certification by a certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire exercise with a concealable firearm consisting of: (1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and (2) 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards; 10 rounds from a distance of 7 yards; and 10 rounds from a distance of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette target approved by the Department. " Looks like you can shoot with any pistol you can cover with clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted January 23, 2022 at 04:07 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 04:07 AM I'd bring two handguns, just in case the instructor doesn't "approve" of the red-dot sights. Some instructors are wacky that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted January 23, 2022 at 04:22 AM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 04:22 AM I shot my original CCL class and the renewal with a .22 target pistol with a red dot sight. Two different instructors and neither one had a problem with me doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted January 23, 2022 at 09:32 PM Share Posted January 23, 2022 at 09:32 PM (edited) Best thing to do is contact the instructor and ask them! My dad has a hard time standing and wanted to sit during the qualification. I asked the instructor and he worked it out for us. Both times I shot there were people who shot 22s. One was an elderly woman who brought a snub nose revolver she had never shot before. Could not shoot it. Instructor lent her his own 22 and she qualified. Edited January 23, 2022 at 09:34 PM by ragsbo add information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted February 2, 2022 at 01:18 PM Share Posted February 2, 2022 at 01:18 PM As long as it is a hand gun, as defined by illinois law, it is allowed in my classes. While it's best practice to get as much trigger time with thge pistol you intend to carry, it isn't required by illinois law to qualify with the pistol you carry. This story happened last weekend. A lady came in for renewal. Stated she hasn't shot in 4 years. That's like nails on drywall to me. Turns out she has been carrying a pistol for 4 years that does not function. Thankfully she attempted to qualify with the pistol she carries. She was carrying a licensed paper weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted February 2, 2022 at 04:20 PM Share Posted February 2, 2022 at 04:20 PM On 2/2/2022 at 7:18 AM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said: A lady came in for renewal. Stated she hasn't shot in 4 years. That's like nails on drywall to me. Turns out she has been carrying a pistol for 4 years that does not function. Thankfully she attempted to qualify with the pistol she carries. She was carrying a licensed paper weight. Yikes! Curious..what was it..and what was the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted February 2, 2022 at 05:17 PM Share Posted February 2, 2022 at 05:17 PM On 2/2/2022 at 7:18 AM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said: This story happened last weekend. A lady came in for renewal. Stated she hasn't shot in 4 years. That's like nails on drywall to me. Turns out she has been carrying a pistol for 4 years that does not function. Thankfully she attempted to qualify with the pistol she carries. She was carrying a licensed paper weight. I would guess that this is happening more than you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted February 2, 2022 at 05:28 PM Share Posted February 2, 2022 at 05:28 PM On 2/2/2022 at 11:17 AM, ragsbo said: I would guess that this is happening more than you think **Laughs in Glock** Yet seriously... Even with all the ammo shortages etc...I still try to get to the range, tho not nearly as often as in the past... Also...A range visit is mandatory for testing when I switch up primaries for season changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted February 4, 2022 at 03:20 PM Share Posted February 4, 2022 at 03:20 PM On 2/2/2022 at 11:17 AM, ragsbo said: I would guess that this is happening more than you think It surprised me a few years ago when renewals began. At this point it doesn't surprise me that people never train or practice any longer since it's about 50/50 for renewal students. Because of this I spend a good amount of time in the original class setting up my expectations for them to take on advanced training class per year and visit the range once per month. I tell them if they aren't shooting 1,700 rounds per year they are doing themselves no favors. Do I expect them to all follow my advice? absolutely not, but hopefully more and more will take their skill and gear more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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