Upholder Posted March 20, 2025 at 06:26 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 06:26 PM Today, the 9th Circuit has ruled 7-4 that California's magazine ban is constitutional because they "are neither 'arms' nor protected accessories." https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf
Upholder Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:22 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:22 PM Analysis by Kostas Moros:
Upholder Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:27 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:27 PM Judge VanDyke issued a video dissent (Which made 6 of the members of the panel very unhappy):
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:56 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 07:56 PM I hope they file and seek cert in conjunction to be heard along with Snope. I find it funny that the 9th circus starts off with interest balancing which isn't allowed, they rule that >10 mags aren't protected under 2A rights as a FU to Heller and Bruen. Such a s**t ruling. If SCOTUS doesn't grant cert after this... we are doomed.
Sweeper13 Posted March 20, 2025 at 08:41 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 08:41 PM Cool that he did a video. Screw the sensitive judges on the court. They constantly screw us.
Tip Posted March 20, 2025 at 09:34 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 09:34 PM Basically seems to be saying “I explained it with words and apparently y’all weren’t smart enough to understand it so let me do it in pictures and see if you can get it.”
Hap Posted March 20, 2025 at 10:19 PM Posted March 20, 2025 at 10:19 PM This case was one of the original four GVR'd at the time of the original Bruen decision, right? I can't imagine that the Court will be happy to see the same bad decision again, wrapped in a slightly different flavor of invalid reasoning.
JTHunter Posted March 21, 2025 at 04:19 AM Posted March 21, 2025 at 04:19 AM On 3/20/2025 at 2:27 PM, Upholder said: Judge VanDyke issued a video dissent (Which made 6 of the members of the panel very unhappy): Impressive. The man knows his guns! I love how he disassembles and alters the guns without a hitch.
yurimodin Posted March 21, 2025 at 09:34 AM Posted March 21, 2025 at 09:34 AM On 3/20/2025 at 2:56 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: Such a s**t ruling. If SCOTUS doesn't grant cert after this... we are doomed. Roberts is more interested in arguing with Trump.....I could see him screwing us just for fun the way McStain did on 0care
SiliconSorcerer Posted March 21, 2025 at 12:54 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 12:54 PM Love the AK47 hanging on the wall behind him.....
Molly B. Posted March 21, 2025 at 01:06 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 01:06 PM On 3/21/2025 at 7:54 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: Love the AK47 hanging on the wall behind him..... I thought that was pretty cool too!
EdDinIL Posted March 21, 2025 at 03:14 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 03:14 PM On 3/21/2025 at 7:54 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: Love the AK47 hanging on the wall behind him..... OMG it's a conflict of interest! He can't rule on gun cases now!
soundguy Posted March 21, 2025 at 03:29 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 03:29 PM Here is the dissent video from Judge Lawrence VanDyke: Cheers, Tim
yurimodin Posted March 21, 2025 at 05:30 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 05:30 PM How many years has this case been ping-ponging around the courts while they deprive citizens of their constitutional rights via color of law?
Upholder Posted March 21, 2025 at 10:16 PM Posted March 21, 2025 at 10:16 PM This case was originally filed in May 2017. Favorable rulings at the District Court and 3 judge panel of the 9th circuit. It was then taken En Banc and reversed 7-4 by the same panel that just heard the case. It was appealed to SCOTUS, and GVR'd following Bruen. The En Banc panel then referred it back down to the District Court which again ruled the law unconstitutional. The En Banc panel then stepped in and took the case from the 3 judge panel and here we are, ready to appeal back to SCOTUS, which will happen as quickly as possible to be combined with Snope and Ocean State Tactical in the best of all possible worlds.
TomKoz Posted March 22, 2025 at 01:36 AM Posted March 22, 2025 at 01:36 AM On 3/21/2025 at 5:16 PM, Upholder said: This case was originally filed in May 2017. Favorable rulings at the District Court and 3 judge panel of the 9th circuit. It was then taken En Banc and reversed 7-4 by the same panel that just heard the case. It was appealed to SCOTUS, and GVR'd following Bruen. The En Banc panel then referred it back down to the District Court which again ruled the law unconstitutional. The En Banc panel then stepped in and took the case from the 3 judge panel and here we are, ready to appeal back to SCOTUS, which will happen as quickly as possible to be combined with Snope and Ocean State Tactical in the best of all possible worlds. FUBAR
mab22 Posted March 22, 2025 at 04:28 AM Posted March 22, 2025 at 04:28 AM Can the federal congress pass a law making mags of a certain capacity legal along with semi automatic modern rifles?
Euler Posted March 22, 2025 at 05:08 AM Author Posted March 22, 2025 at 05:08 AM Sure, but anything one Congress passes another can repeal.
SiliconSorcerer Posted March 23, 2025 at 05:17 PM Posted March 23, 2025 at 05:17 PM On 3/22/2025 at 12:08 AM, Euler said: Sure, but anything one Congress passes another can repeal. I'm not seeing the pro's of that effecting the case, the cons are numerous.
mab22 Posted March 23, 2025 at 10:04 PM Posted March 23, 2025 at 10:04 PM On 3/22/2025 at 12:08 AM, Euler said: Sure, but anything one Congress passes another can repeal. Executive orders are easy, yanking out laws like that are harder as it takes 3 bodies to do so.
yurimodin Posted March 24, 2025 at 04:02 PM Posted March 24, 2025 at 04:02 PM On 3/21/2025 at 11:28 PM, mab22 said: Can the federal congress pass a law making mags of a certain capacity legal along with semi automatic modern rifles? It's already in the Constitution
mikew Posted March 24, 2025 at 08:48 PM Posted March 24, 2025 at 08:48 PM On 3/24/2025 at 11:02 AM, yurimodin said: It's already in the Constitution ++
EdDinIL Posted March 24, 2025 at 09:30 PM Posted March 24, 2025 at 09:30 PM Ironically, if Congressional R's tried to pass such a bill, the Dems would likely let it pass, then immediately go to the courts to say "See, even THEY think the Second Amendment doesn't protect them. If they did, they wouldn't have had to cram this bill down our throats!"
springfield shooter Posted March 24, 2025 at 10:41 PM Posted March 24, 2025 at 10:41 PM As the Senate stands, and likely will continue to....It'd never get the 60 votes to invoke cloture anyway.
Euler Posted June 10, 2025 at 01:43 AM Author Posted June 10, 2025 at 01:43 AM On May 30, Duncan filed to extend the deadline to petition for certiorari from June 18 to July 18. On June 5, Kagan extended the deadline to July 18. (shadow docket)
Euler Posted July 4, 2025 at 06:15 AM Author Posted July 4, 2025 at 06:15 AM (edited) On July 3, Duncan again asked for an extension. This time to August 17. Edited July 15, 2025 at 01:22 AM by Euler
Euler Posted July 15, 2025 at 01:21 AM Author Posted July 15, 2025 at 01:21 AM On July 11, Kagan extended the deadline to August 17.
yurimodin Posted July 15, 2025 at 02:40 PM Posted July 15, 2025 at 02:40 PM On 7/14/2025 at 8:21 PM, Euler said: On July 11, Kagan extended the deadline to August 17. At this point just start throwing a whole extra year on these cases for no reason.
Euler Posted August 19, 2025 at 11:45 PM Author Posted August 19, 2025 at 11:45 PM On August 15, Duncan filed her petition for certiorari. On August 19, the Supreme Court created the docket.
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