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Are IDNR "Natural Areas" CCL safe?


Vern in IL
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All firearms, including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. When visiting any of these locations, Concealed Carry Permit holders are required to secure their concealed firearms in their vehicle in accordance with the Illinois Concealed Carry Act.

A Natural Area is not a Nature Preserve. The area I'm interested in is called "Devil's Prop"  Natural area.  Interestingly it is NOT listed in the Illinois Natural Areas Inventory (INAI) sites. It is NOT LISTED IN THE NATURE PRESERVE DIRECTORY.   However the place has those fake wood brown plastic signs saying "State Natural Area" signs and ROW markers saying Natural Area, IL. Dept of Conservation, and has a parking lot and a trash can.

The trail is unmarked, and much graffiti and UTV trail damage.eyJidWNrZXQiOiJhc3NldHMuYWxsdHJhaWxzLmNveyJidWNrZXQiOiJhc3NldHMuYWxsdHJhaWxzLmNv

 

Thoughts?

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https://guides.library.illinois.edu/illinoisnaturepreserves/inai

 

https://www2.illinois.gov/dnr/INPC/Pages/default.aspx

 

https://www2.illinois.gov/sites/naturalheritage/NaturalAreasDivisions/Pages/NaturalAreas.aspx

 

OnX, a hunting app that shows who owns what property, lists this as owned by IDNR.

 

Seems that the best bet is to call IDNR and find out.

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This is from Sec. 65 Prohibited Area   

 

   “ (3) Any building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of government, provided that nothing in this paragraph shall prohibit a licensee from carrying a concealed firearm onto the real property, bikeway, or trail in a park regulated by the Department of Natural Resources or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted as established by the Department of Natural Resources under Section 1.8 of the Wildlife Code.”

https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/AboutTheAct.aspx 

 

5) On what IDNR properties may an Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holder carry a concealed

firearm?

Illinois Concealed Carry Permit holders may carry a concealed firearm on any IDNR real property

(including bike trails, trails, or any other designated public hunting area or building where

firearm possession is permitted by the IDNR) with the following exceptions: All IDNR Office

buildings, including but not limited to the Joel D. Brunsvold Building (IDNR Springfield

Headquarters Building), IDNR Regional Office buildings, IDNR State Museum buildings, and any

other IDNR building marked with the ISP-approved sign prohibiting firearms. All firearms,

including concealed firearms, are also prohibited on all IDNR State Refuge areas, IDNR Dedicated

Nature Preserves, and IDNR children playground areas. When visiting any of these locations,

Concealed Carry Permit holders are required to secure their concealed firearms in their vehicle

in accordance with the Illinois Concealed Carry Act.

https://www2.illinois.gov/dnr/LawEnforcement/Documents/ConcealedCarryQnA.pdf

 

Note that they are specific in delineating State Refuge Areas and Nature Preserve as different areas. That would indicate that Natural Areas are different from those two. Other than staying out of buildings in a Natural Area, it does not appear that CC would be a violation.

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I tend to agree, I have not contacted IDNR yet. but I found it interesting the site is not in the register of "nature preserves"

 

I agree with Quiet Observer, some Natural Areas are not nature preserves, since the area I'm interested in, is NOT registered in the Natural Preserve directory, I am still waiting for a response from DNR...

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