mauserme Posted September 12, 2021 at 03:38 PM Share Posted September 12, 2021 at 03:38 PM Welcome to the newest of the IllinoisCarry forums, a place focused on discussing issues related to applying for and renewing Firearm Owner Identification Cards, delays, appeals, and relation conversation. While not a new topic for us these issues deserve a home of their own, independent of Concealed Carry Licensing discussion. Please be patient as we move existing topics to their new location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted September 23, 2021 at 03:51 PM Share Posted September 23, 2021 at 03:51 PM Just helped a lady apply on line to renew a 10 year old card. When she created for the first time a log in with password the software stopped, directing her to call in to be able to use her new log in info. What is with the state police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF17 Posted September 23, 2021 at 07:18 PM Share Posted September 23, 2021 at 07:18 PM My FOID expires 1-1-22, my CCL expires 8-21-24. can I go ahead and submit for FOID renewal? no change in name or address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats Posted September 23, 2021 at 08:40 PM Share Posted September 23, 2021 at 08:40 PM On 9/23/2021 at 2:18 PM, FF17 said: My FOID expires 1-1-22, my CCL expires 8-21-24. can I go ahead and submit for FOID renewal? Bottom line is you should be able to start your FOID renewal in early November, 2021. Under current law, the Illinois State Police are supposed to send out a renewal notification for your FOID 60 days before the expiration of your FOID (that would be the beginning of November for you). Instead of waiting for the letter, I would suggest that you go online on the ISP website and review your account. If the renewal button is available, you can click on the button and start the renewal process. The renewal button should be available in the beginning of November. You might want to check earlier than November as there have been some instances where the renewal process has been opened up early. This should get you on your way to renewal. Now, on January 1st (2022) things are supposed to change. For one, the notification period for FOID renewal goes from 60 days to 180 days. So, theoretically, after 1/1/2022 the ISP should send out renewal notices 180 days before expiration. And although the law does not spell it out, the assumption would be that the renewal "button" would be active be active on an account 180 before expiration. As the change does not go into effect until 1/1/2022, I would not expect the new extended notification period to kick in until after 1/1/2022. Also, where there might be some variability on the process, on 1/1/2022 a new process is rolling out. This is what is supposed to go into effect (430 ILCS 65/7): (https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapterID=39) (c) Beginning January 1, 2022, if the Firearm Owner's Identification Card of a licensee under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act expires during the term of the licensee's concealed carry license, the Firearm Owner's Identification Card and the license remain valid during the validity of the concealed carry license and the licensee does not have to renew his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card, if the Firearm Owner's Identification Card has not been otherwise renewed as provided in this Act. Unless the Illinois State Police has reason to believe the licensee is no longer eligible for the card, the Illinois State Police may automatically renew the licensee's Firearm Owner's Identification Card. I am not sure how the ISP intends to roll this out or how they will roll out the new process. I am not a lawyer, but it appears that since your FOID expires on 1/1/2022, and your CCL is valid until August, 2024, that you would not need to renew your FOID and it would be valid until August, 2024. So to get back to your original question- You should be able to renew in early November, 2021. The new law looks to give some additional options going forward. Hope that this helps, and I apologize for the extended response, but "things are a changing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee n. field Posted September 24, 2021 at 12:53 AM Share Posted September 24, 2021 at 12:53 AM On 9/12/2021 at 10:38 AM, mauserme said: Welcome to the newest of the IllinoisCarry forums, a place focused on discussing issues related to applying for and renewing Firearm Owner Identification Cards, delays, appeals, and relation conversation. While not a new topic for us these issues deserve a home of their own, independent of Concealed Carry Licensing discussion. Please be patient as we move existing topics to their new location. I got my notice last week. Got online, worked through the process. Aaaand, the new card showed up today. I was shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted October 11, 2021 at 08:01 PM Share Posted October 11, 2021 at 08:01 PM (edited) Renewal notice dated 10/1, received 10/9 (I guess that’s the new, slow USPS service at work), renewal was fairly straightforward. Good job on FSB’s part. Edited October 11, 2021 at 08:01 PM by Hap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted October 21, 2021 at 06:24 PM Share Posted October 21, 2021 at 06:24 PM (edited) My card expired 8/1/2021 and, while I got the letter ahead of that, I didn't try to renew because of the "emergency orders". Well, I just spent a fruitless 30 minutes filling out that form on their website and FINALLY got as far as "Step 3" when it told me I had to call the "call center" with 3 pieces of information. With that automated system they have (and I tried multiple menus), there seemed to be no avenue to get to a live person to give them the 3 items they wanted (Login ID, email addy, and DL#). And that wasted almost 40 minutes. I tried to login anyway and it just went back to "Step 3". 🤪 Edited October 21, 2021 at 06:26 PM by JTHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted October 26, 2021 at 05:09 PM Share Posted October 26, 2021 at 05:09 PM With the frustration of the post above still fresh in my mind, I asked for help from one of the marvelous people here that I have watched help others hog-tied by Illinois odious systems. That would be wonderful and fantastic Molly. I don't know how she worked her magic, (esp. over a weekend!) but she got the ISP site "unfrozen" so I was able to complete my registration and then my renewal. Thanks Molly! 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted October 26, 2021 at 07:10 PM Share Posted October 26, 2021 at 07:10 PM On 10/26/2021 at 12:09 PM, JTHunter said: With the frustration of the post above still fresh in my mind, I asked for help from one of the marvelous people here that I have watched help others hog-tied by Illinois odious systems. That would be wonderful and fantastic Molly. I don't know how she worked her magic, (esp. over a weekend!) but she got the ISP site "unfrozen" so I was able to complete my registration and then my renewal. Thanks Molly! 😃 She is a treasure for sure and she asks nothing for herself. >>>CAUTION<<< solicitation follows. It would be nice if the many that Molly has helped took just a few moments to donate to Illinois Carry so that she can continue to advocate this of us that are mystified by the ISP FSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59caddy Posted October 29, 2021 at 09:13 PM Share Posted October 29, 2021 at 09:13 PM Applied around 10/4/21 Denied because of mental health admission OVER 5 years Saw a specialist for psych eval and appeal form(by the way these specialists charge anywhere from $500-$3500). Highly recommended this Doc Everything sent certified to Springfield 10/21/21 Just went active today 10/29/21 Should be in my mailbox next week, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumgod Posted November 8, 2021 at 01:17 PM Share Posted November 8, 2021 at 01:17 PM I received a letter stating my foid expires at the end of the month. When I go to www.ispfsb.com and click into the area to renew my foid I am greeted with a pop-up about revoked instructor credentials. After entering my info (I believe it should be valid still. I renewed my ccl a couple years ago.) and clicking "sign in" the page reloads and I shown the pop-up about instructor credentials again and a blank log in form... No errors or informational messages. Endless circle. Anyone have any ideas on how to proceed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumgod Posted November 8, 2021 at 01:32 PM Share Posted November 8, 2021 at 01:32 PM Additional info: I just received a "new login" notification for every attempt I made to log in... So the site is accepting my password but directing me back to the login page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp17 Posted January 18, 2022 at 07:55 PM Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 07:55 PM I also received a letter in the mail saying it was time to renew my FOID. Just logged in to the ISP website. It shows Expiration Date on both FOID and CCL as "COVID-19". My FOID card shows that it expires in March of this year, CCL is good until 2024. I thought we can use CCL card instead of FOID card right? For purposes of buying ammo/firearms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted January 18, 2022 at 10:17 PM Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 10:17 PM I did get a letter to renew. I did so and it took just about 90 days to get it done with a valid CCL, Instructor and prints on file for instructor. All in all not bad, but they still have a massive backlog of people waiting for extended periods... most of which applied long ago. It's nice they are getting them out now, but they should have dealt with the huge backlog first. My2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats Posted January 18, 2022 at 11:36 PM Share Posted January 18, 2022 at 11:36 PM On 1/18/2022 at 4:17 PM, John Q Public said: I did get a letter to renew. I did so and it took just about 90 days to get it done with a valid CCL, Instructor and prints on file for instructor. All in all not bad, but they still have a massive backlog of people waiting for extended periods... most of which applied long ago. It's nice they are getting them out now, but they should have dealt with the huge backlog first. My2 I agree with you 100%. It is very interesting to note that the ISP does not publish (on their dashboard) any statistics on CCL renewals. They have new/renewal FOID, FTIP, and new CCL information, but nothing on Renewal CCLs. It seems that is the "junk drawer" of application processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlowrie Posted January 22, 2022 at 05:33 PM Share Posted January 22, 2022 at 05:33 PM Wife received the ISP letter stating to renew FOID in Dec 2021, (expires March 2022) can confirm no renewal button on website. Her CCL expires 2025. I received the ISP letter in November & have a FOID expiring 2-1-22. I'm also not getting renewal button. My CCL expires 2024. Looks like it is working as intended which is surprising for Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats Posted January 22, 2022 at 08:04 PM Share Posted January 22, 2022 at 08:04 PM (edited) On 1/22/2022 at 11:33 AM, jlowrie said: Looks like it is working as intended which is surprising for Illinois. I am glad things are working for you. For me, it is the state working at its usual logic/speed/ efficiency. FOID Expires 4/1/2022 CCL Expires 5/2026 (with fingerprints, for what it is worth) Renewed FOID on Website on 12/8/2021 (Hoping to get an "old" FOID card) From 12/8/2021 to 1/5/2022 received message (Online): "We have received your submission and your payment was successful. We have not yet reviewed any aspect of your application. It is in the verification queue." From 1/6/2022 to 1/22/2022 (today) received message (Online): "Your submission successfully completed the background review and has been sent to await printing." Today (1/22/2022) received a letter from ISP, dated 12/21/2021 and postmarked 1/18/2022 stating that my FOID was up for renewal. The letter did note that if I renewed before expiration, the FOID would be considered valid. It also stated the COVID extensions. There was no mention whatsoever of the new law in which I would not need to renew if my CCL expires later than my FOID. I would not have posted this at all if I did not receive the letter. Now considering the letter is dated 14 days after my application, and the letter was sent (postmarked) over 25 days after it was dated and 12 days after my application was approved, I think that the state is back to its money/time wasting processes. Edited January 22, 2022 at 08:21 PM by Stats typo- spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted October 26, 2022 at 07:40 PM Share Posted October 26, 2022 at 07:40 PM (edited) Trying to renew my wife's foid card.. I think when we got her card we did it by paper. I setup her account on ISP site and started the application got to the bottom and hit the next button. It goes through the process then tells me there is a system error. Been trying for a few hours to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks A system exception has occurred and any data modified has not been saved. Sorry for the inconvenience but you will need to retry or resume at a later time. Our support staff will receive a notification for review. Edited October 26, 2022 at 07:56 PM by bear226 more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted October 27, 2022 at 06:48 PM Share Posted October 27, 2022 at 06:48 PM They must have fixed their system. Finished today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario ruiz Posted March 8, 2023 at 02:07 PM Share Posted March 8, 2023 at 02:07 PM (edited) I need to change my address on my foid card and renew it. Edited March 8, 2023 at 02:08 PM by mario ruiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted March 8, 2023 at 05:37 PM Share Posted March 8, 2023 at 05:37 PM (edited) misread, deleted... go to www.ispfsb.com and renew there. if the foid renewal is like the ccl renewal, you can simply provide your new address when you renew. Edited March 8, 2023 at 05:38 PM by AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted June 20, 2023 at 10:46 PM Share Posted June 20, 2023 at 10:46 PM I have the combined card now. Both licenses are up in Dec. Scheduled 3hr renewal training in a week. The FOID is renewed if I buy a new firearm and pass the bg check. My CCL was obtained with prints. What is the process now for the FOID If I just reup. The first question asks if I have submitted prints for my FOID. No but they have prints on file. Do I need to upload separate prints and a new photo or anything else. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 20, 2023 at 11:36 PM Share Posted June 20, 2023 at 11:36 PM If you renew your CCL, your FOID renews automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted June 20, 2023 at 11:42 PM Share Posted June 20, 2023 at 11:42 PM Thanks Euler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted June 21, 2023 at 03:44 PM Share Posted June 21, 2023 at 03:44 PM On 6/20/2023 at 6:36 PM, Euler said: If you renew your CCL, your FOID renews automatically. And believe it or not, if you renew your non-resident CCL, they give you a FOID card instead that says CCL on it. So I now have a non-resident FOID card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dana Posted July 15, 2023 at 07:55 PM Share Posted July 15, 2023 at 07:55 PM i have another question. when renewing your ccl and your foid card needs renewing also, do you need to add the ten dollars to the licens fee to pay for the new foid card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted July 15, 2023 at 10:18 PM Share Posted July 15, 2023 at 10:18 PM Some people are saying that if both expire together, then you have to renew them both (separately). Apparently the system wouldn't let people renew their CCLs without first renewing their FOIDs. I suggest trying to renew your CCL only and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted July 21, 2023 at 11:32 AM Share Posted July 21, 2023 at 11:32 AM Both my FOID and CCL run to the same date December 2023. Had to apply and pay for FOID first. Then system applied information to CCL application automatically and requested payment. Could not apply for renewed CCL first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted July 24, 2023 at 08:56 PM Share Posted July 24, 2023 at 08:56 PM My FOID renewal just went under review. CCL still no action. The system seems to process the FOID first before moving on to the CCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted July 25, 2023 at 07:40 PM Share Posted July 25, 2023 at 07:40 PM Did you login to FOID side or CCL side when you tried to renew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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