mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:15 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:15 PM Representatives Cassidy and Tarver are, of course, yes votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM On a vote of 75/?/0, the House concurs on Senate Amendments 1 & 2. The bill has passed both bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM HB1092 is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:16 PM ? = 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:17 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:17 PM ? = 40 Thanks, my feed is locking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM I find it a bit ironic that 1092 follows a bill that ISRA signed off on as a compromise (/s) in 562… The original red flag law was also a compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM It cut out right when she said 40, then came back for the present votes. I just know she didn't say 41 (for 116 total). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM On a vote of 75/?/0, the House concurs on Senate Amendments 1 & 2. The bill has passed both bodies. Sad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Well, congrats ISRA!!! You helped Everytown and MDA achieve part of their goals. They’ll be back again next session to get everything they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:19 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:19 PM Rep McCombie calls HB1092 "still a bad bill, still a gun grab". She asks for a no vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:21 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:21 PM I didn't track it... Were there 4 or 5 remote yes votes for 562? If it was just 4, that means they didn't actually need them to pass the bill with at least 71. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:22 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:22 PM For 562: 6/16/2021 House Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Rep. Natalie A. Manley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:23 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:23 PM 6/16/2021 House Motion Filed to Reconsider Vote Rep. Natalie A. Manley On HB562. Interesting. I think they're going to keep pushing HB1091 Fix the FOID in the Senate now, knowing they have this anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:24 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:24 PM On a vote of 61/47/0, the House concurs on Senate Amendment 1 to HB1092. The bill has passed both bodies. Hmmm, I'll have to check the effective date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:26 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:26 PM I'll be away for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:44 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:44 PM So what did we learn today? To advance gun control, they’ll change house rules to allow remote votes The ISRA will help Everytown and gun grabbers advance the laws they want because it’s “”not as bad”” as original laws they lobby for (gun grabbers) 2A Republicans (Wheeler) will use emotional instances (like gun grabbers) to vote for gun control Democrats will lie (compromise) on bills (red flag) only to go further a session or two later Legal IL gun owners are the only ones that will feel an impact on this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:55 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 10:55 PM My Rep. voted no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:00 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:00 PM Wonder if there is anyway for ISRA members to file a class action for misrepresentation? ISRA definitely sought their own preference today and who knows what they cave to in the future. I hope other national gun groups as well as the NRA come out and admonish their actions publicly and loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzimike66 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:12 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:12 PM Wheeler is my rep and voted yes. RINO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:13 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:13 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:15 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:15 PM Wheeler is my rep and voted yes. RINO West suburban "Republicans" have been problematic for a long time, even when they leave the legislature and become lobbyists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:18 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:18 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear. It is not his job to represent Illinois voters. His is an unelected position to head a private group devoted to gun rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:24 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:24 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear.If you’re not fighting for what’s right, you’re just making excuses for what you know is wrong. Nothing about this will prevent them from pushing for further legislation mandating fingerprints. Nothing. Pritzker and ISP Director are on record as supporting manadating and increased fees. News articles are going to still going to be published about how “this doesn’t go far enough.” ISP will come back wanting more money “to enforce what we just passed”, and they will only need 60 votes next Spring to make some or all of that happen. And Pearson will look like a fool, after giving some Republicans cover, or so he thinks, to vote for something that gets the Mom Demands of the world one step closer to what they really want. They’re not done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:25 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:25 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear.It is not his job to represent Illinois voters. His is an unelected position to head a private group devoted to gun rights.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:27 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:27 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear.If you’re not fighting for what’s right, you’re just making excuses for what you know is wrong. Nothing about this will prevent them from pushing for further legislation mandating fingerprints. Nothing. Pritzker and ISP Director are on record as supporting manadating and increased fees. News articles are going to still going to be published about how “this doesn’t go far enough.” ISP will come back wanting more money “to enforce what we just passed”, and they will only need 60 votes next Spring to make some or all of that happen. And Pearson will look like a fool, after giving some Republicans cover, or so he thinks, to vote for something that gets the Mom Demands of the world one step closer to what they really want. They’re not done.All of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:27 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:27 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear.He does not represent voters. He represents members of the ISRA and all legal gun owners in IL. No one else. I'm not a life member luckily, almost did but opted not to. I am with the NRA and partially regret that, even bumped up a couple times. That is even on hold. ISRA went out on their own and decided what is best for those they represent, not what those they represent feel is best. They sold out, they, caved, they folded, they succumbed to the pressure....... THEY FAILED. They failed their motto and oath, they failed members past and present and they failed to uphold anything they are supposed to stand for. Anti gun groups are going to swarm IL the next session, you watch what gets proposed. ISRA bent a knee and they will pounce., strike while the iron is hot. We can add National Shooting Sports Foundation to that list as well. Traitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:35 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:35 PM I don’t like what happened but Pearson was right. Illinois voters want this control. We don’t have the numbers on our side. And all this is constitutional until the last court of appeal says otherwise in the future.Its gonna get dangerous being a illinois gun owner I fear.One that isn't Pearson's job to speak for the Illinois voters. It his job to represent the members of the ISRA. Two, if a legitimate poll was taken of Illinois Voters, and actual given the complete info on these bills, I do not think they do want this level of control. The idiots elected corruptly, bought and paid for do. As we see by these votes. Third, no, a passed law is either Constitutional, or not. It may be legal snd binding until overturned, but that does not make it Constitutional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:35 PM Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:35 PM House Supplemental Calendar 2 is available. It adds a shell bill sponsored by Representative Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:39 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:39 PM I'll also add, compromise is one thing, this was not. I remember a lot of anxiety and frustrations when CC was being implemented. Phelps bill 997? was the preffered bill by all, but that was not feasibke under Madigan. What we got was still good, but not the best, but that's what it was. Todd even stated, as well as Valinda, there was no holding out for a better bill, it was XX or restrictive, 997 was never an option. Here there was an option, oppose. Simple and to the point. Restrictions equal no, end of point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:40 PM Share Posted June 16, 2021 at 11:40 PM Senate Supplemental Calendar 2 is available. It adds a shell bill sponsored by Representative Ford to the calendar. I thought the Senate was out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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