mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:41 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:41 PM Representative Luft asks how the $10 fee would be disbursed. She answers that DNR funding will used and DNR will get more funding in the budget. He points out that that will require from revenue from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:43 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:43 PM He asks if capping the fingerprint fee will cause local police departments, sheriff's office's to find other revenue to make up the cost of administration when their fee might be $50 now. She claims fingerprint vendors support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:45 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:45 PM Mr. Luft points out that someone who is determined, vicious and evil will not be deterred by this bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:46 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:46 PM Representative Weber asks if the sponsor believes voting, publishing a newpaper etc should require fingerprints. She deflects, refusing to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:47 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:47 PM Rep Windhorst asks if there are any other rights requiring fingerprints. She does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:50 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:50 PM He asks if the bill is passed with no amendments by both bodies, would the sponsor call for the Governor's veto. She looks to the attorney at her side for help. She will not answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:50 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:50 PM She then succumbs, saying they would request an amendatory veto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:52 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:52 PM Windhorst points out that ISP Director Kelly offered testimony in committee expressing concern for the language of the bill House members are being asked to vote on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:52 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:52 PM She then succumbs, saying they would request an amendatory veto.more bs. why isn't whatever IN the bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:55 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:55 PM Rep Niemerg points out that the sponsors denied any knowledge of a senate amendment then, later, explained the pending Senate amendment. He points out that the sponsor refused to answer questions she deemed unrelated to her bill, then asks the body to vote on a bill that is only promised to happen in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:59 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:59 PM I wish someone would send them away until they think about what they are doing. Dem leadership asleep at the wheel again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:03 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:03 PM It DOES NOT automatically create electronic FOID, it merely says ISP MAY. liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM In response to Rep Mason, Rep Hirshauer says the bill in the Senate is not agree to by the "advocates", meaning the gun control groups she represents. There are other advocates, of course, advocates who value the freedoms on which our country was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM Enogh of this Mason Sponsor pony show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:04 PM I wish someone would send them away until they think about what they are doing. Dem leadership asleep at the wheel again. fixed it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM Ms. Mason claims to be a 2A supporter, but... she urges a yes vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM Ms. Stoneback is up. A story is inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:05 PM I’m glad she admits she’s doing this to benefit advocates (re:Moms Demand Action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:06 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:06 PM She attempts to shame another House member for calling this piece of garage bill a piece of garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:07 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:07 PM She seems to dislike the term "law abiding" in reference to gun owners who follow the law. She admits that straw purchasers buy guns illegally, then insists this bill will compel them to follow the law they break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:08 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:08 PM STRAW PURCHASES ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL Ms Stoneback, and this bill does NOTHING to stop them {like she will hear me} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:10 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:10 PM In essence, Ms. Hirshauer has joined the ranks of Representatives Stoneback and Gillespie who have no use for negotiation, or agreed language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:12 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:12 PM Ms. Stoneback has abandoned her previous professional façade, preferring snark today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:14 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:14 PM Stoneback is a stone cold liar. IL is the weakest state for gun control? Yikes. Can smell the BS from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:15 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:15 PM She blames "gun violence" on "pandemic stress" without explaining how this bill would reduce that stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:16 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:16 PM FOR THE CHILDREN !!! Sorry -- got carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:17 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:17 PM God Stoneback sounds like she’s reading out of Shannon Watts’ talking points handbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:18 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:18 PM She seems to dislike the term "law abiding" in reference to gun owners who follow the law. She admits that straw purchasers buy guns illegally, then insists this bill will compel them to follow the law they break.Did she explain how this would occur? A logical process that would lead to this result, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:18 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:18 PM Representative Tarver identifies himself as a "gun person". He speaks to the unintended consequences of the FOID and CCL which were widely publicized at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:20 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 09:20 PM He is happy to combine cards, but asks for a commitment to fix renewal notifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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