mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:41 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:41 PM The bill is returned to 2nd reading. Ms. Willis offers Floor Amend 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:42 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:42 PM Ms. Willis moves adoption of the amendment, and it is adopted. Back to 3rd reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:43 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:43 PM Rep Hirschauer takes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:44 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:44 PM Once again, she applies lipstick to her pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:45 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:45 PM I hope there are suits ready if this passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:45 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:45 PM Back to the prepared script on how bad guns are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:47 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:47 PM Person to person background check loophole? It’s already law LOFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:47 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:47 PM She says that her bill will make it harder for mass shooters to get guns. She fails to explain that it will make it harder for anyone to get guns. She now claims to know what every member of the House knows about "gun violence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:50 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:50 PM Representative Keith Wheeler requests a vote verification. It is granted. Mr. Wheeler continues by asking if the bill is a little bit of many bills. The sponsor answers in the affirmative. He asks if it would require fingerprints for new and renewal applications. She doesn't know the answer, then answers only once after being coached. She also doesn't know how many FOID cards there are in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:51 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:51 PM She is painfully ignorant of not just gun laws, but specifics of her own bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:52 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:52 PM Mr. Wheeler asks if it is correct the 2.2 Million FOID card holders must now submit prints to exercise a right. She answers with a lower number, still in the millions, because of existing prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:52 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:52 PM She is painfully ignorant of not just gun laws, but specifics of her own bill.She's not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:53 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:53 PM She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year. Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:54 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:54 PM Wheeler points out that an injunction will likely be filed against the bill if it passes, preventing both good and bad aspects from becoming law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:55 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:55 PM Mr. Wheeler asks if it is correct the 2.2 Million FOID card holders must now submit prints to excecize a right. She answers with a lower number, still in the millions, because of existing prints.Mr. Wheeler should ask her what purpose is served by requiring around 2 million people that are already legally exercising their 2A rights to submit to fingerprinting to continue doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:55 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:55 PM In response to Mr. Wheeler, Ms. Hirschauer says ISP has no position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:56 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:56 PM She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year. Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change.One wonders why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:57 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:57 PM Wheeler says HB562 has agreed language with ISP in the Senate. That the language was accepted in its entirety last night. He suggests they proceed with the agreed language instead of her bill which is not agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:57 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:57 PM She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year. Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change.The promise of “we’ll fix it later” has been made a lot this year, and subsequently broken. Similarly, there were promises from certain Democrat members in committee that they wouldn’t support the bill in the current form on the floor, but agreed to get it through committee “to keep working”…we’ll see if they keep their promises… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:58 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 07:58 PM Despite the sponsor's denial, Wheeler says a deal has been worked out in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:00 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:00 PM Despite the sponsor's denial, Wheeler says a deal has been worked out in the Senate.That ought to be pretty easy to shake out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:00 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:00 PM Ms. Willis steps in to rescue Ms. Hirschaer. She denies the existence of an agreed bill in the Senate, too. She also says an amendment will bring the fee back to $10 and the term back to 10 years. She says other changes are being worked on too. Showing her continued disdain for the Constitution, she derides people who "believe the Second Amendment is the law of the land". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:01 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:01 PM Ms. Willis also attempts to justify fingerprints by saying some people already have them on file for their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:02 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:02 PM Showing her continued disdain for the Constitution, she derides people who "believe the Second Amendment is the law of the land".I’m glad someone else heard that the same way I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:02 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:02 PM What an embarrassment the Illinois legislature is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:03 PM Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:03 PM Ms. Willis also attempts to justify fingerprints by saying some people already have them on file for their jobs.… which won’t be accepted by the ISP for firearms purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:04 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:04 PM In response to Rep Caulkins, Ms. Hirschauer says "there were witness slips". She attempts to actually count names. Mr. Caulkins informs her of the 3 to 1 against, actual numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:05 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:05 PM Caulkins points out that, while we can't process FOID cards now, the bill diverts funds to a new task force created in the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:06 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:06 PM Mr. Caulkins asks how many people who have committed violent crims were found to have a FOID card. Ms. Hirschauer doesn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:07 PM Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 at 08:07 PM She doesn't know how many people will be on the task force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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