mauserme Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:14 AM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:14 AM https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/illinois-carry-says-the-gun-buying-process-is-hamstrung-with-delays/article_97bfd38a-bd9f-11eb-b364-4f9d74441904.html Illinois Carry says the gun buying process is hamstrung with delaysBy Zeta Cross | The Center Square contributor (The Center Square) – People in Illinois who want to buy guns could have to wait six months. Valina Rowe of the gun rights group Illinois Carry says unnecessary logjams in the background check processes in Illinois have her members fuming. Since the COVID-19 lockdown began in March 2020, Illinois has experienced an unprecedented demand for firearms. Because the Illinois State Police (ISP) are swamped with buyer applications, ISP have been unable to issue Illinois’ required Firearm Owner IDs (FOIDs) in a timely manner in cases. According to state law, FOID cards are supposed to be issued in 30 days or less. Yet in 2020 and 2021, people have been waiting four or five or even six months before they get their FOID cards. Illinois Carry supports a lawsuit now before the state Supreme Court that argues that the process is unconstitutional. Rowe said that the FOID system is broken and obsolete. “The law says that a FOID application will be processed within 30 days – background checks done and the FOID issued – so long as the person does not have any prohibiting factors in their background. Instead, it is taking about 140 days,” she said. Rowe says people are surprised to learn that in Illinois, a person cannot go to a gun store, buy a gun and drive away with it on the same day. To buy a firearm in Illinois, the first step is applying for and receiving a FOID card from ISP. Then purchasers need go to a gun shop and pick out a firearm. Before they can walk out of the store with the gun, however, there is a 72-hour waiting period whether they are buying a handgun, long gun or shotgun. During that time, the sale is called in to the ISP for an Illinois background check, which is known as a Firearms Transfer Inquiry Program check or FTIP. The FTIP check must be completed before the ISP can issue the required verification number to the firearm dealer that will allow the gun sale to go forward. “The FTIP is supposed to be done within three days, but we see that FTIP checks are taking three, four, five weeks because of a backlog with the Illinois State Police,” Rowe says. Gun buyers should not count on taking their gun home within the three-day waiting period, she warns. “It could be three days before you can take possession of the firearm or it can be three or four weeks. It is not a cut-and-dried amount of time,” Rowe says. Rowe calls the entire firearm purchase process in Illinois “egregious.” She says Illinois is one of only three states in the country where you have to have an identification card to possess a firearm or ammunition. “The FOID process is an old, outdated, obsolete system that needs to be done away with," Rowe said. "We now have the National Instant Criminal Background Check (NICS) that ISP can use. Illinois should join the 21st Century with modern technology and NICS, that other states have been using for years.” ISP officials have said they are working to improve the system and have also sought legislative changes. Illinois State Police Director Brendan Kelly previously said the agency needs authority from the Illinois state legislature to “untangle and integrate'' Illinois' gun owner licensing laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:18 AM Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:18 AM And audio here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtw5150 Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:38 AM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 11:38 AM This whole state is Fubar. I love going to.Cabelas in Hammond a half hour from me and watching someone walk out with whatever they want in 30 minutes, if they're busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted May 26, 2021 at 12:09 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 12:09 PM We all owe Valinda such a debt of gratitude for what she does, and how well she does it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:06 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:06 PM Thank you for the kind words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:11 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:11 PM A question to Mr. Brenden Kelly- "Sir, what is your #1 priority as the head of this program, and what is something you did about it today?" Another question that is mainly rhetorical-If Mr. Kelley were to go onto radio and tv, hold press conferences and openly admit that the agency and program are an irreparable mess, take some responsibility, and explain that he doesn't have the funds to administrate due to tax dollars being diverted and plead his case, rather than hang his coat on a hook every morning and sit in more of same meetings and luncheons, who would he be serving?Himself? Nope.The people that appointed him? Nope.The ruling class? Nope.You? Yes.Of course it will never happen, and we allowed it to become what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:45 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 01:45 PM A question to Mr. Brenden Kelly- "Sir, what is your #1 priority as the head of this program, and what is something you did about it today?" Another question that is mainly rhetorical-If Mr. Kelley were to go onto radio and tv, hold press conferences and openly admit that the agency and program are an irreparable mess, take some responsibility, and explain that he doesn't have the funds to administrate due to tax dollars being diverted and plead his case, rather than hang his coat on a hook every morning and sit in more of same meetings and luncheons, who would he be serving?Himself? Nope.The people that appointed him? Nope.The ruling class? Nope.You? Yes.Of course it will never happen, and we allowed it to become what it is.Need some integrity which no one in control in Illinois has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:17 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:17 PM They even misspelled Valinda's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:41 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:41 PM We all owe Valinda such a debt of gratitude for what she does, and how well she does it!!! This. ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:42 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 02:42 PM Illinois State Police Director Brendan Kelly previously said the agency needs authority from the Illinois state legislature to “untangle and integrate'' Illinois' gun owner licensing laws. So he is either a mouth breather collecting another check and pension or a department head with apparently no authority or power to do anything. Or both.Why is he there?Someone please tell me that description is unfair? Compared to any legal resident of the state of Illinois has and is putting up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted May 26, 2021 at 04:24 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 04:24 PM Why is there no accountability for not following the law? If I did not perform my job responsibilities as required by law I at a minimum would be terminated. This is happening because it is being tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted May 26, 2021 at 04:58 PM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 04:58 PM Exactly, day after day it continues.How would Illinois lawmakers be acting if EBT/SNAP folks were waiting 6 months or longer for their food benefits, or housing?There would be congressmen leaving from the back doors into waiting limousines like roaches under a dim bulb and a gaggle of media out front watching an activist strike a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted July 19, 2021 at 10:37 PM Share Posted July 19, 2021 at 10:37 PM ISP having computer problems again. Or so they say. My 72 is past and others who purchased a week ago still have not received approval locally. It took 16 months for my wife's FOID renewal and she has a CCP. ISP is an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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