bigdudez25 Posted May 17, 2021 at 04:22 AM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 04:22 AM I know a guy who got a denial letter due to a 2017 DUI... which goes to show how JUST ONE DUI within 5 years preceding the date of the application, will get most people denied due to the fact that in the vast majority of DUI cases, the offender will go through some sort of court-ordered treatment. I've never seen one that didn't. Some people get so caught up in the whole "not more than one DUI" part, that they forget about the court ordered treatment for the one they got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 17, 2021 at 11:16 AM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 11:16 AM I have seen this many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 17, 2021 at 11:18 AM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 11:18 AM He should be able to apply again 5 years after the end of treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 17, 2021 at 02:11 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 02:11 PM Scenario 1 - no permission slip, get DUI, apply for permission slip and get denied Scenario 2 - Already passed tests and currently hold permission slip but get DUI and still get to keep carry permit. Is that currently how it works? Seems backwards as to imply already having a carry permit gave extra permissions. Illinois wouldn't do such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 17, 2021 at 03:35 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 03:35 PM I believe if someone is issued court ordered treatment, their CCL is revoked/suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once0217 Posted May 17, 2021 at 05:48 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 05:48 PM I believe if someone is issued court ordered treatment, their CCL is revoked/suspended?No. As much as I hate to admit it, I got a DUI 2.5 years ago. Stupid mistake, I know.. but my CCL was not affected. Upon reading the statute, it doesn't seem court ordered DUI re-education would apply to the CCL. "(5) has not been in residential or court-orderedtreatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the license application;" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted May 17, 2021 at 08:45 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 08:45 PM I believe if someone is issued court ordered treatment, their CCL is revoked/suspended?No. As much as I hate to admit it, I got a DUI 2.5 years ago. Stupid mistake, I know.. but my CCL was not affected. Upon reading the statute, it doesn't seem court ordered DUI re-education would apply to the CCL. "(5) has not been in residential or court-orderedtreatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the license application;" Are renewals treated the same as new applications with regard to background checks and potential failures? Have you applied for a renewal since the DUI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted May 17, 2021 at 09:07 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 09:07 PM Not all “court ordered treatments” are created equal, and I believe it depends on what type/level of treatment was ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once0217 Posted May 17, 2021 at 10:01 PM Share Posted May 17, 2021 at 10:01 PM I believe if someone is issued court ordered treatment, their CCL is revoked/suspended? No. As much as I hate to admit it, I got a DUI 2.5 years ago. Stupid mistake, I know.. but my CCL was not affected. Upon reading the statute, it doesn't seem court ordered DUI re-education would apply to the CCL. "(5) has not been in residential or court-orderedtreatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the license application;"Are renewals treated the same as new applications with regard to background checks and potential failures? Have you applied for a renewal since the DUI?I believe they are handled in the same way. No I have not. Mine doesn't expire until 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdudez25 Posted May 18, 2021 at 01:12 AM Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 at 01:12 AM He should be able to apply again 5 years after the end of treatment.Lucky for him it was in 2017, so he's gonna try again next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yettiblood Posted May 18, 2021 at 02:34 AM Share Posted May 18, 2021 at 02:34 AM Never got a DUI, but I did voluntarily get treatment for my alcohol problem so I have 3 years 4 months left before I’m eligible for my CCL. Illinois is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNickl Posted May 20, 2021 at 03:01 PM Share Posted May 20, 2021 at 03:01 PM I believe if someone is issued court ordered treatment, their CCL is revoked/suspended?No. As much as I hate to admit it, I got a DUI 2.5 years ago. Stupid mistake, I know.. but my CCL was not affected. Upon reading the statute, it doesn't seem court ordered DUI re-education would apply to the CCL. "(5) has not been in residential or court-orderedtreatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the license application;" Are renewals treated the same as new applications with regard to background checks and potential failures? Have you applied for a renewal since the DUI? Renewals are subject to the same - you can get your renewal denied if something occurred since you were granted the license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtw5150 Posted May 26, 2021 at 07:10 AM Share Posted May 26, 2021 at 07:10 AM Never got a DUI, but I did voluntarily get treatment for my alcohol problem so I have 3 years 4 months left before I’m eligible for my CCL. Illinois is a joke.According to the statute it only counts against you if it was either residential or court ordered if not you should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNickl Posted June 3, 2021 at 12:27 PM Share Posted June 3, 2021 at 12:27 PM I know a guy who got a denial letter due to a 2017 DUI... which goes to show how JUST ONE DUI within 5 years preceding the date of the application, will get most people denied due to the fact that in the vast majority of DUI cases, the offender will go through some sort of court-ordered treatment. I've never seen one that didn't. Some people get so caught up in the whole "not more than one DUI" part, that they forget about the court ordered treatment for the one they got. I just saw this, sorry for not responding earlier. I fought ISP on this and the standard DUI classes and counseling are NOT court ordered treatment. If you have a 1st or 2nd time DUI, you are 99% likely to have only needed to do the standard DUI counseling / classes, and you should never be denied or revoked. If you have a 3rd DUI or aggravating circumstances, you may have done in-patient or outpatient treatment as ordered by the court (a good DUI attorney would know that better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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