Molly B. Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:05 PM Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:05 PM Just as I suspected, the Concealed Carry Review Board reviewed 0 (zero) objections to concealed carry applications from March 2020 through August 2020, once Gov. Pritzker issued his COVID-19 order. It may have been even longer, we do not have the FOIA response for Sept. - Dec. 2020 yet. The law states:(f) The Board shall issue a decision within 30 days of receipt of the objection from the Department. However, the Board need not issue a decision within 30 days if: (1) the Board requests information from the applicant, including but not limited to electronic fingerprints to be submitted to the Department, in accordance with subsection (e) of this Section, in which case the Board shall make a decision within 30 days of receipt of the required information from the applicant; (2) the applicant agrees, in writing, to allow the Board additional time to consider an objection; or (3) the Board notifies the applicant and the Department that the Board needs an additional 30 days to issue a decision. The law also states that board members may meet electronically: © The Board shall meet at the call of the chairperson as often as necessary to consider objections to applications for a license under this Act. If necessary to ensure the participation of a commissioner, the Board shall allow a commissioner to participate in a Board meeting by electronic communication. Any commissioner participating electronically shall be deemed present for purposes of establishing a quorum and voting. Reviewing ZERO objections from March – August and maybe longer than that is an outrage and, in our opinion, a total violation of applicants' Constitutional rights. For comparison, in the last 3 months of 2019, the CCLRB was reviewing an average of 200 or so objections per month. 3 through 8 2020 CCLRB GOVERNOR'S REPORT.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:11 PM Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:11 PM They were given the PERFECT excuse and they will use it for every single issue they can . COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:23 PM Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:23 PM Its a shame, what else do we except from bureaucrat's. They do nothing while still getting paid, and rights are being violated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:48 PM Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 11:48 PM I’d give my opinion but then I’d have to ban myself for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majd0910 Posted February 4, 2021 at 12:07 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 12:07 AM Didn’t we have members who were under board review get approved within those months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted February 4, 2021 at 12:21 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 12:21 AM $ If a right denied saves just one life, it will have been worth it. $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepin Bowhunter Posted February 4, 2021 at 01:06 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 01:06 AM Surprise, surprise. Unreal how the State flagrantly ignores the law and shows zero remorse. They have had years to come into compliance. Thank you Molly for checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted February 4, 2021 at 01:22 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 01:22 AM This is pure insanity. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted February 4, 2021 at 04:17 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 04:17 AM Find those people who have NOT had their hearings to see if they would be interested in being part of a CLASS ACTION lawsuit. Get enough of those people that have been denied because the Board has been failing to do their legally required duty and hold the Board's "feet to the fire" and go after them individually, as well as the ISPFSB, and possibly "Jabba". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 4, 2021 at 07:10 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 07:10 AM Thats crazy!!! What reason could they possibly have that makes them or their oversight group think this is the proper thing to do...how is it Covid? ..."If necessary to ensure the participation of a commissioner, the Board shall allow a commissioner to participate in a Board meeting by electronic communication. Any commissioner participating electronically shall be deemed present for purposes of establishing a quorum and voting"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 4, 2021 at 08:13 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 08:13 AM Thats crazy!!! What reason could they possibly have that makes them or their oversight group think this is the proper thing to do...how is it Covid? Guaranteeing success through lowered expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted February 4, 2021 at 11:04 AM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 11:04 AM Wow, not that it surprises me, until they are held accountable for their actions by the courts the abuses will continue and sadly I don't see the courts holding them accountable anyday soon, even the courts love using the election infection excuse to work less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted February 4, 2021 at 06:24 PM Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 06:24 PM It seems that they could have held meetings and reviews via Zoom or wearing masks and using social distancing in a board room. Aides could have emailed or printed out copies of the pertinent data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieRich Posted February 5, 2021 at 08:33 PM Share Posted February 5, 2021 at 08:33 PM Find those people who have NOT had their hearings to see if they would be interested in being part of a CLASS ACTION lawsuit. Get enough of those people that have been denied because the Board has been failing to do their legally required duty and hold the Board's "feet to the fire" and go after them individually, as well as the ISPFSB, and possibly "Jabba".I am in this group. I was put under board review and ultimately denied. Never got a response back from my objections or anything after the denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieRich Posted February 5, 2021 at 08:34 PM Share Posted February 5, 2021 at 08:34 PM So what would be the next steps for someone such as myself who was within this time frame, and denied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hceuterpe Posted February 5, 2021 at 11:48 PM Share Posted February 5, 2021 at 11:48 PM I hate to throw out a dose of realism, but beyond being frustrated what exactly would you be willing to sue over and the damages you're seeking? There are already multiple lawsuits filed related to the delays that have been dragging along for months if not years. Yeah it's absolutely crap. But the state is not exactly amateurs at playing the legal game. Best case scenario legal action would drag out in court for years, before you'd see a favorable ruling. If you're specifically wanting to address concerns of the March To August timeframe and not from even before, I can assure you you will likely be disappointed because the state would definitely have a very strong defense using the COVID-19 restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted February 6, 2021 at 08:34 AM Share Posted February 6, 2021 at 08:34 AM the state would definitely have a very strong defense using the COVID-19 restrictions. Since the law specifically allows for it to be done by "electronic communication" the defense is beyond weak, but the liberal anti-gun Illinois courts are likely to give Covid delays far, far too much weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted February 8, 2021 at 09:37 PM Share Posted February 8, 2021 at 09:37 PM Find those people who have NOT had their hearings to see if they would be interested in being part of a CLASS ACTION lawsuit. Get enough of those people that have been denied because the Board has been failing to do their legally required duty and hold the Board's "feet to the fire" and go after them individually, as well as the ISPFSB, and possibly "Jabba". I am in this group. I was put under board review and ultimately denied. Never got a response back from my objections or anything after the denial. Then you might want to sue for "damages" (your training classes and their assorted costs, the "non-refundable" application fee, etc.) as well as their failure to abide by their own laws and rules for processing times. I hate to throw out a dose of realism, but beyond being frustrated what exactly would you be willing to sue over and the damages you're seeking? There are already multiple lawsuits filed related to the delays that have been dragging along for months if not years. Yeah it's absolutely crap. But the state is not exactly amateurs at playing the legal game. Best case scenario legal action would drag out in court for years, before you'd see a favorable ruling. If you're specifically wanting to address concerns of the March To August timeframe and not from even before, I can assure you you will likely be disappointed because the state would definitely have a very strong defense using the COVID-19 restrictions.See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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