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SunTimes editorial board calls for BIO/FixFoid (SB1966) passage by ILGA


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https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/1/5/22215721/gun-violence-illinois-legislature-bio-bill-editorial

 

Year of surging gun violence adds to urgent need to plug loopholes in Illinois gun laws

 

...The Illinois Legislature has a chance to save lives by reducing gun violence. But it must act quickly.

 

The local firearms toll is staggering. In Chicago alone, 769 people were killed in 2020, mostly by guns. More than 4,000 were shot. Just over this past holiday weekend, 30 were shot and six were killed. Gun violence also has increased in cities around the state.

 

Illinois does not have to meekly accept such horrific mayhem.

 

Legislation called the Block Illegal Ownership bill would plug legal loopholes through which guns flow to the criminals who turn streets into killing zones. It passed in the House in 2020 but stalled in the Senate as the Legislature took fewer votes during the pandemic.

 

The Senate, where the vote will be close, needs to pass the bill by Jan. 13 during its lame duck session or the bill will go back to square one as a new General Assembly is sworn in. If that happens, the state will lose its chance to act quickly to make it harder for dangerous people to get guns and harm others, including children, while giving law-abiding citizens access to guns.

 

Among its measures, the BIO bill would require point-of-sale background checks for all gun sales, including by private sellers. It would require applicants for Firearm Owners Identification cards to submit fingerprints. It would require Illinois State Police to remove guns from someone whose FOID card has been revoked.

 

Similar measures have made a big difference elsewhere. A combination of a FOID-type system with background checks on all gun sales has reduced gun violence by 40% in other states. Illegal gun trafficking is 48% lower in states that require background checks, according to the Gun Violence Prevention Education Center-Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.

 

And the recovery of guns from someone whose FOID card has been revoked would prevent future shootings like the one in Aurora in 2019 in which Gary Montez Martin killed five people with a gun he kept after his FOID card had been revoked.

 

The requirement for fingerprinting would reduce a backlog of applications for FOID cards and concealed-carry permits by shortening the time it takes for police to confirm applicants identities. According to an updated Illinois State Police website that went live this week, it is taking the state an average of 122.47 days to process new FOID applications and 158.84 days to process non-fingerprint concealed-carry permit applications.

 

Speeding up the process would benefit law-abiding gun owners.

 

Last year, Chicago police seized 11,280 illegal guns and made 7,236 gun arrests. Under current laws, its too easy for criminals to acquire new illegal guns to replace those police confiscated. The BIO bill would slow the flow of illegal guns and make us safer...

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What a load of hockey pucks.

 

I got my Utah renewal in about 2 weeks without finger prints. They had no problem confirming my identity. I'm going on month 9 for my IL renewal. This bill would have POSSIBLY (but not probably) stopped one shooting, and balance that against the people who can't legally defend themselves because the state refuses to do their job...

 

This law does nothing to address gang violence. That epidemic is one that lawmakers allow to continue unhindered, because they don't care that young black men are shooting other young black men.

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Full article at link...

 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/1/5/22215721/gun-violence-illinois-legislature-bio-bill-editorial

 

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The requirement for fingerprinting would reduce a backlog of applications for FOID cards and concealed-carry permits by shortening the time it takes for police to confirm applicants identities because there will be fewer applications due to people not willing or able to follow through the process or afford it.

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Fixed it for them.

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IMHO their basic premise is incorrect.
It isn’t GUN violence. It’s GANG violence.

Until the politicians have the political will to call the problem what it is they have no chance of correcting it.

look at where the violence is and look at what neighborhoods the gangs control and the problem is clearer.

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This sounds like SB1966, is it?

Yes
FixTheFOID wasn't getting the support they wanted so it got renamed. As this is a Senate concurrence issue, Im assuming there are no hearings, no additional readings, etc and can be brought up at anytime the Senate is in session...is this correct...whats the process for this to get voted on?

 

https://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1966&GAID=15&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=119887&SessionID=108&GA=101

 

 

4/12/2020 Senate Pursuant to Senate Rule 3-9(B) / Referred to Assignments

4/12/2020 Senate House Committee Amendment No. 1 Motion to Concur Referred to Assignments; pursuant to rule 3-9(B)

4/12/2020 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Motion to Concur Referred to Assignments; pursuant to rule 3-9(B)

4/12/2020 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 3 Motion to Concur Referred to Assignments; pursuant to rule 3-9(B)

4/16/2020 Senate Rule 2-10 Committee Deadline Established As April 30, 2020

4/23/2020 Senate Rule 2-10 Committee Deadline Established As May 7, 2020

5/7/2020 Senate Rule 2-10 Committee Deadline Established As May 22, 2020

5/15/2020 Senate Rule 2-10 Committee/3rd Reading Deadline Established As May 31, 2020

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This sounds like SB1966, is it?

Yes

 

FixTheFOID wasn't getting thevsupport they wanted so it got renamed. As this is a Senate concurrence issue, Im assuming there are no hearings, no additional readings, etc and can be brought up at anybtime the Senate is in session...is this correct?

 

It can go directly from the Committee on Assignments to the floor for a concurrence vote.

 

Don't take that a prediction, though.

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I would like to see a listing of the states that have this foid like system and this new system they are advocating for.

 

IIRC, there are like 4 states with a FOID card type system, however other states may have some of the parts and pieces they want to add to our FOID.

 

I think the other states are New Jersey, Massachusetts and Hawaii

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Among its measures, the BIO bill would require point-of-sale background checks for all gun sales, including by private sellers.

 

This is ALREADY the case.

The FOID card undergoes a background check on a daily basis by the ISP. If we check the FOID card of someone and it is valid, no problem, we've done the background check.

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Among its measures, the BIO bill would require point-of-sale background checks for all gun sales, including by private sellers.

This is ALREADY the case.

 

The FOID card undergoes a background check on a daily basis by the ISP. If we check the FOID card of someone and it is valid, no problem, we've done the background check.

I believe an FTIP check by FFL uses more databases than the curent person-person ISP valid FOID check.
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Does the 14th amendment ever apply?

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;

Thomas' opinion in the McDonald case would argue so, but Thomas was a minority concurring opinion in that case. The majority used the Due Process clause.

 

It still applies then, maybe the choice or phrase chosen was different?

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Source - https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

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Re-reading the article

“Last year, Chicago police seized 11,280 illegal guns and made 7,236 gun arrests. Under current laws, its too easy for criminals to acquire new illegal guns to replace those police confiscated. The BIO bill would slow the flow of illegal guns and make us safer...”

 

7,236 arrests, how many convictions, how many slaps on the wrist, how many charges dropped, how many not prosecuted, how much probation given, how many repeat offenders, what is the average sentence?
Those are the worth while stats.

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Well, they only have 7 calendar days left to pass by the 13th (unless they have some way of extending) and sessions arent starting until the 8th so hopefully they find better things to do with their time...

They seem to like passing bills when they want, could be a new Gov in a few years, same bill and 2020/2021vote, based on how they did the gun dealer bill.

 

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