ILgunguy Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:05 PM Share Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:05 PM So, here it is. The proposed new FOID law, which includes $50 for 5 years, plus state police fees, plus fingerprints ($60-85). And soooo much more. http://ilga.gov/legislation/101/SB/10100SB1966ham001.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry 9595 Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:42 PM Share Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:42 PM It includes all the transfer garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:44 PM Share Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:44 PM Wasn't there courts involved when they were only allowed to raise it from $5 to $10 when it's expiration was also raised from 5 to 10 years. They need to start charging to register (to vote), same difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:53 PM Share Posted May 15, 2019 at 11:53 PM Just another reason to get the h*** out of this state. So it will cost over $100 to get a foid renewed. This state really sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:01 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:01 AM Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon. ^ this *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:11 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:11 AM More money for cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:15 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:15 AM Synopsis of changes, but by no means a complete list Synopsis: SB 1966 (HCA 0001) Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Department of State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Director of State Police shall (rather than may) establish a statewide multi-jurisdictional Violent Crime Intelligence Task Force. Provides that the Violent Crime Intelligence Task Force shall also conduct enforcement operations against persons whose Firearm Owner's Identification Cards have been revoked or suspended and persons who fail to comply with the revocation or suspension requirements of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, prioritizing individuals presenting a clear and present danger to themselves or to others under that Act. Provides that the Task Force shall collaborate with local law enforcement agencies to enforce provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, the Firearm Concealed Carry Act, the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act, and the Deadly Weapons Article of the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that the Director of State Police may establish intergovernmental contracts written and executed in conformity with the Intergovernmental Cooperation Act. Provides that the Department of State Police shall establish a portal for use by federal, State, or local law enforcement agencies, including Offices of the State's Attorneys and the Office of the Attorney General to capture a report of persons whose Firearm Owner's Identification Cards have been revoked or suspended. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Modifies definition of "clear and present danger". Provides that an applicant for the issuance or renewal of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card shall include a full set of his or her fingerprints in electronic format to the Department of State Police, unless the applicant has previously provided a full set of his or her fingerprints to the Department under the Act or the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that a Firearm Owner's Identification Card issued under the Act shall be valid for the person to whom it is issued for a period of 5 years (rather than 10 years) from the date of issuance, but provides that any person whose card was previously issued for a period of 10 years shall retain the 10-year issuance period until the next date of renewal, at which point the card shall be renewed for 5 years. Provides that a person who receives a revocation or suspension notice under the Act (currently, only revocation notice) shall, within 48 hours of receiving notice of the revocation or suspension: (1) surrender his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card to the local law enforcement agency where the person resides; and (2) complete a Firearm Disposition Record on a form prescribed by the Department of State Police and place his or her firearms in the location or with the person reported in the Firearm Disposition Record. Provides that any transfer of a surrendered firearm must be conducted under the firearm transfer provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that nothing in the firearm revocation or suspension provisions of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act prevents a court from ordering an individual to surrender his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card to a law enforcement agency of the court's choosing in a timeframe shorter than 48 hours after receipt of the notice of revocation or suspension. Provides that the Firearm Disposition Record shall contain a statement to be signed by the transferee that the transferee: (1) is aware of, and will abide by, current law regarding the unlawful transfer of a firearm; (2) is aware of the penalties for violating the law as it pertains to unlawful transfer of a firearm; and (3) intends to retain possession of the firearm or firearms until it is determined that the transferor is legally eligible to possess a firearm and has an active Firearm Owners Identification Card, if applicable, or until a new person is chosen to hold the firearm or firearms. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the State Police Revocation Enforcement Fund and the School-Based Mental Health Services Fund in the State treasury and defines their purposes. Amends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that an applicant for renewal need not resubmit a full set of fingerprints if the applicant has previously done so under the Act or the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that a person commits the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms when he or she transfers ownership of a firearm to a person in violation of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. This offense is a Class 4 felony. Amends the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Unified Code of Corrections. Modifies requirements for transfer of firearms to a law enforcement agency as required under those Acts. Makes other changes. Effective immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith44 Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Here is the link to submit witness slips: -Keith. Edited by Molly B., Link was to original bill. We need the one to the amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:57 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:57 AM Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:04 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:04 AM Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1. Yeah. It's Senate Amendment 1 that needs witness slips. It might be better to wait until tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:07 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:07 AM Committee hearing tomorrow, but witness slip only shows for original bill, not amendment 1.I dont see a committee hearing tomorrow but next week. SB1966 Julie A. Morrison. (Kathleen Willis) PUBLIC DEFENDER BAIL PROGRAM 05/15/2019 House Assigned to Judiciary - Criminal Committee **** SB 1966 Judiciary - Criminal Committee Hearing May 21 2019 8:30AM Stratton Building Room C-1 Springfield, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:15 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:15 AM Looks like judiciary meets tomorrow also, but it's not on their calendar till the 21st.Of course that can change overnight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:21 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:21 AM The amendment is still in the Rules Committee, so we can't file witness slips just yet. We will definitely get an alert out as soon as witness slips are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:53 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 01:53 AM Suspect the amendment to bill will be heard in committee on the 21st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:24 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:24 AM Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon. ^ this ***Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:37 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:37 AM full story at link https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-state-police-push-for-surge-in-cost-of-foid-gun-cards/5302191/ CHICAGO (WLS) -- New legislation introduced late Wednesday afternoon in Springfield would, for the first time, require gun owners to be fingerprinted. Under the proposal, a Firearm Owners Identification Card would surge in price from $10 to $50 and the duration of the card would be cut in half from ten years to five years. Northlake Democrat Kathleen Willis is sponsor of the bill and told the ABC7 I-Team that it was filed just before 5pm. Rep. Willis says the money generated by increased FOID fees would completely fund increased enforcement by Illinois State Police and fund grants for a new mental health program in schools. READ: "Fix the FOID Act" FOID cards are required for the legal purchase of firearms and ammunition in Illinois. In an exclusive interview with the ABC7 I-Team, acting state police director Brendan Kelly said that the five-fold increase in FOID fees would fund stepped-up law enforcement efforts to enforce Illinois gun laws.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:41 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:41 AM ABC7 ITeam tonight rides along on recovering firearms from revoked FOIDS https://abc7chicago.com/tonight-at-10-gun-rustlers/5301618/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricolor Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:48 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:48 AM Like the greedy pigs they are, Willis and the rest are oblivious that their greed will be their undoing. Let them keep pushing and pushing. The more onerous, expensive and obviously discriminatory they make the FOID process the easier it will be to nullify the entire rotten system. Seems like a poll tax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:54 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 02:54 AM How much does it cost to apply for food stamps? Hmmm? Must pay for a Constitutional Right but not free stuff from actual Taxpayers? Lawsuit anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted May 16, 2019 at 03:20 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 03:20 AM Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted May 16, 2019 at 04:34 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 04:34 AM Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong? They do all kinds of things illegal. We then have to bumble though the courts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:46 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:46 AM Makes possession of firearms unlawful in the same house as a convicted felon. ^ this ***Is this even legal? How do they deny someone their rights when they've done nothing wrong? So much for due process, huh? No way a respectable court denies an enumerated right of an individual based on association. that runs contrary to even the most basic diluted definiton of a right. I really hope the Supreme Court comes out roaring in regards to the 2nd and the cases pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:50 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:50 AM Ahh well now I see , the exorbitant fees will completely fund bla bla and bla. Which we know will never happen ever in Illinois. So sick of these morons. Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted May 16, 2019 at 06:10 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 06:10 AM ... Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ? As we saw with gun dealer licensing, apparently anyone with access to the Internet can file. Bloombergers from across the country were filing on that one. Maybe there's vetting before placing the slips in the official record (like comparing to registered voters), but there certainly wasn't on the day the slips were collected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted May 16, 2019 at 11:08 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 11:08 AM Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary.I'd expect no less. He is a JB pancakes puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted May 16, 2019 at 11:50 AM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 11:50 AM So they plan to raise how much money off of this scam? The fee’s and financial part of this is a distraction. There has to be something far worse in the bill. ~$161 for a FOID based on $50 + $65 for prints, multiplied by 1.4 million ( estimated based on number of FOID holders google search) Is $161 Million if they forced everyone to change at the same time. This is a rounding error for Illinois budgets. Maybe they get ~$100k to $250k a yearly based on this, the dollar amount is a distraction and what they want us to focus on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:19 PM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:19 PM Just to point out, for those who may not have been following this for the past few months, the fingerprints are a one time requirement... so if you've already submitted prints for FOID/CCL in the past, you're good. Not that I approve, mind you... just informing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:24 PM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:24 PM Ahh well now I see , the exorbitant fees will completely fund bla bla and bla. Which we know will never happen ever in Illinois. So sick of these morons. Does you have to be an Illinois citizen to file witness slips ? No you do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:31 PM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:31 PM ~$161 for a FOID based on $50 + $65 for prints, multiplied by 1.4 million ( estimated based on number of FOID holders google search) Plus the cost of BGC currently around $35 but it is not specific about the ISP charge in bill. Think the number of FOID holders is more like 2.3M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:38 PM Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 12:38 PM Unlike some other proposed changes to the FOID, the ISP is all over this one. The interview with ISP Acting Director Brendan Kelly made it sound like this revamp is absolutely necessary.I'd expect no less. He is a JB pancakes puppet.He commented about being understaffed, importance of enforcing law, etc. Yet they can't/won't fix/hire to get their current broken FOID/CCL process in compliance in spite of an apparent multi $M firearm services fund. The FOID may need to be fixed but this isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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