SiliconSorcerer Posted January 14, 2020 at 04:14 PM Share Posted January 14, 2020 at 04:14 PM How long until we have a National FOID?Would it work? There should be no cost for internet verification of the buyer.It should eliminate all waiting periods nationwide once the check is approved.It should allow the holder to buy any gun in person anywhere in the US. The other 49 states would be p*****...It already exists, sort of. I mean the FBI has a file on everyone already and all the disqualifying info is supposed to be correlated. People don't have a card but all the backend info is there. Illinois has all the same, the machinations of the physical FOID cards are just a silly game. It's all tied to state DL/ID cards anyway, it would be trivial and save millions of dollars to do away with the FOID "system". At this point it's all a show to keep up appearances and maintain power by playing games with a physical card. It's like fingerprinting, they make a big stink out of it, but already have facial recognition on everyone already so why bother? Just another game to distract people. I think the same for paying per mile for gas, got a phone? High, low gas milage or no gas, everyone wears down roads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveIL Posted January 23, 2020 at 10:47 PM Share Posted January 23, 2020 at 10:47 PM https://courts.illinois.gov/SupremeCourt/Docket/2020/Jan/01-20DB.pdf if someone already posted this and I didn't see it I apologize.. Her case is listed on the "Advisement Docket"? I Don't know what that means but maybe I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted January 23, 2020 at 11:52 PM Share Posted January 23, 2020 at 11:52 PM Possibly argued but not decided as of the time of the case listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted January 26, 2020 at 02:48 AM Share Posted January 26, 2020 at 02:48 AM What is the typical time frame for issuing a ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted January 26, 2020 at 09:39 PM Share Posted January 26, 2020 at 09:39 PM Someone may have more updated statistics but: " In 2013, unanimous decisions came down an average of 103.7 days after oral argument, while cases with dissenters took much longer – 185.8 days after argument." per https://www.appellatestrategist.com/2014/03/articles/jurisdictions/illinois/whats-pending-on-the-illinois-supreme-courts-advisement-docket/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 30, 2020 at 06:51 PM Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 06:51 PM The court has announced the decision will be released this Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted March 30, 2020 at 06:52 PM Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 06:52 PM Whoa, very welcome news! Got my fingers and toes crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHJ Posted March 30, 2020 at 07:49 PM Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 07:49 PM Molly, what’s your gut instinct on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 30, 2020 at 07:51 PM Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 07:51 PM I have none, except whichever way it goes there will most likely be an appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted March 30, 2020 at 08:08 PM Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 08:08 PM What Molly said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted March 30, 2020 at 11:10 PM Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 11:10 PM The next step after the IL Supreme Court would be... SCOTUS itself, or a Federal appeals court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 30, 2020 at 11:12 PM Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 at 11:12 PM I believe it would be U.S. Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted March 31, 2020 at 12:56 AM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 12:56 AM If appealed, what another 2 years or so for THAT ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted March 31, 2020 at 01:48 AM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 01:48 AM If appealed, what another 2 years or so for THAT ruling?I don't see an issue in a ruling against the state that they could appeal. A ruling against us could be appealed on 2A grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted March 31, 2020 at 01:59 AM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 01:59 AM Keeping more than fingers and toes crossed. Surprised they are leading the SCOTUS on this one, although it seems the ISC does not care if any of their decisions are over turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikweso1 Posted March 31, 2020 at 07:11 PM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 07:11 PM The court has announced the decision will be released this Thursday.By chance, do you have a link handy in which I may check their decision as soon as it is posted? Thank you very much in advance, link or no link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted March 31, 2020 at 08:07 PM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 08:07 PM No worries, it will be posted here post-haste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F12Mahon Posted March 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM Share Posted March 31, 2020 at 11:08 PM (edited) Looks like this is what you could type in your browser address bar. http://illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/recent_supreme.asp (under edit) Or just click on the link above. Eugene Edited March 31, 2020 at 11:09 PM by F12Mahon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikweso1 Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:41 AM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:41 AM Looks like this is what you could type in your browser address bar. http://illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/recent_supreme.asp (under edit) Or just click on the link above. EugeneThank you Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningspear Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:52 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:52 PM The Illinois Supreme Court may not agree with me, but here is my view, which is more expansive than the narrow issue presented in Brown: Although there are a few exceptions, all Illinois residents who do not have a FOID card are prohibited from possessing a firearm. This is a total ban, a blanket prohibition, that obliterates the right to keep and bear arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger52 Posted April 1, 2020 at 06:01 PM Share Posted April 1, 2020 at 06:01 PM The Illinois Supreme Court may not agree with me, but here is my view, which is more expansive than the narrow issue presented in Brown: Although there are a few exceptions, all Illinois residents who do not have a FOID card are prohibited from possessing a firearm. This is a total ban, a blanket prohibition, that obliterates the right to keep and bear arms.From your lips to SCOTUS' ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted April 2, 2020 at 06:56 AM Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 06:56 AM It’s Thursday !! Are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 2, 2020 at 12:21 PM Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 12:21 PM It’s Thursday !! Are we there yet?And I thought I was anxious for the opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted April 2, 2020 at 12:54 PM Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 12:54 PM Its Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutsidr Posted April 2, 2020 at 01:09 PM Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 01:09 PM If it's good news, they'll drop it right before JBs presser so the news gets buried by the virus death count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PewPewBangBang Posted April 2, 2020 at 01:35 PM Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 01:35 PM (edited) Not sure if you guys read the “caution on court opinions” but just so it’s out there, whether we get back good news or bad news, the opinion isn’t official until 21 days after being posted. Whoever loses is allowed to ask for a rehearing during that time. Edited April 2, 2020 at 01:39 PM by PewPewBangBang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:03 PM Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:03 PM https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2020/124100.pdf posted - reading now - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:05 PM Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:05 PM 35 CONCLUSION ¶ 36 The circuit court’s ruling that section 2(a)(1) of the FOID Card Act is unconstitutional as applied was not necessary to the resolution of this case. Therefore, we remand this cause to the circuit court. We direct that the order entered by the circuit court on February 14, 2018, be vacated. We further direct that the October 16, 2018, judgment order dismissing defendant’s information be vacated and then modified to exclude the ruling that section 2(a)(1) is unconstitutional. The - 13 -modified order is thereupon to be reentered. ¶ 37 Vacated and remanded with directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:07 PM Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:07 PM JUSTICE KARMEIER, dissenting: ¶ 39 The majority’s decision resolves this appeal based on an issue no one has raised, decides the issue through misapplication of principles we have no reason to discuss, and remands the case to the circuit court for entry of an order that is clearly meritless and serves no purpose. Neither the parties nor the interests of justice will be served by this unexpected and pointless exercise. I therefore respectfully dissent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:24 PM Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 at 02:24 PM Looks like the court punted and sent it back to circuit court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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