Steve51 Posted February 22, 2019 at 07:22 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 07:22 PM SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. The decision on conceal carry in a church should be up to the church not the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted February 22, 2019 at 07:28 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 07:28 PM The Dem seance with Lenin and Trotsky continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:17 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:17 PM The anti's are throwing everything they can including the kitchen sink; hoping that something will stick and get traction. Then when that does not work, they will come back with more and more. They will put out 25-30 new ways to violate our gun rights and if they only get 2 or 3, they have won. AND they will keep at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:26 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:26 PM As a Pastor, I find this most heinous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:39 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:39 PM SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. The decision on conceal carry in a church should be up to the church not the state. Would be nice if that's what was meant by, "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE", but unfortunately, all it means is that the government can not tell you which religion to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:39 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:39 PM I know a real life pistol packing Rabbi, WITH A CONGREGATION!!!! Out of Arizona. And YES, he IS packing as he conducts service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:51 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:51 PM I do also, I have a .380 on my side every service and a bug in my pocket. Every service, every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:54 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:54 PM As a Pastor, I find this most heinousYou need to publicly call him out in opposition. This rep is a rabbi, and you, as a pastor, need to make it clear that you respect his belief that you respect his opinion should he choose to be posted, but you choose not to. On another note, isn’t this a possible conflict of interest? http://i.imgur.com/IJlYG0o.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KEvHCgj.jpg https://www.linkedin.com/company/s4-group-llc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:57 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 08:57 PM Is making calls and filling out witness slips the best way to stop this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:00 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:00 PM As a Pastor, I find this most heinousYou need to publicly call him out in opposition. This rep is a rabbi, and you, as a pastor, need to make it clear that you respect his belief that you respect his opinion should he choose to be posted, but you choose not to.On another note, isn’t this a possible conflict of interest?http://i.imgur.com/IJlYG0o.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/KEvHCgj.jpghttps://www.linkedin.com/company/s4-group-llc thank you. I will do just that. He is the one bring the bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:10 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:10 PM Yes http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3023&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&SessionID=108&GA=101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:16 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:16 PM I called and left a message with his secretary. If he doesn't call back on Monday I'll call him on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:22 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:22 PM A bunch of new members popping up in this thread all of the sudden.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:37 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:37 PM A bunch of new members popping up in this thread all of the sudden.... It’s one of two things 1. After JB won, people got worried and joined2. SHILL ATTACK!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:40 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 09:40 PM A bunch of new members popping up in this thread all of the sudden....It’s one of two things1. After JB won, people got worried and joined2. SHILL ATTACK!!!!!!!!Maybe a little of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 22, 2019 at 10:37 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 10:37 PM Is making calls and filling out witness slips the best way to stop this? It's a little soon for witness slips on this bill. If and when that time comes we'll include it in an alert. For now your best bet is to call your Illinois House Representative to express your opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrickster Posted February 22, 2019 at 10:51 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 10:51 PM Didn't Mary Shepard file a lawsuit against the state of Illinois specifically about being able to carry in a church?!? I mean, legally, can the state even pass this since it was her lawsuit that helped usher in concealed carry? new ways to kiss Madigan's ***. You misspelled "Bloomberg". He now has his own virtual caucus in the GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted February 22, 2019 at 11:46 PM Share Posted February 22, 2019 at 11:46 PM I have a question and it's something to really think about. If there truly is a separation of church and state,then how can the state impose its will on the church especially regarding a constitutional right. It just seems wrong and unconstitutional to me. But hey what do I know. You know enough to know that it's wrong and unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:12 PM Share Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:12 PM If an authority declares a gun free zone they become morally responsible for the safety of the persons within. Bills like this should include funding for police officers to provide security but that would ruin the warm fuzzy feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:15 PM Share Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:15 PM If an authority declares a gun free zone they become morally responsible for the safety of the persons within. Bills like this should include funding for police officers to provide security but that would ruin the warm fuzzy feels. After Shepard v Madigan bills like this shouldn't be filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:34 PM Share Posted February 23, 2019 at 04:34 PM If an authority declares a gun free zone they become morally responsible for the safety of the persons within. Bills like this should include funding for police officers to provide security but that would ruin the warm fuzzy feels.After Shepard v Madigan bills like this shouldn't be filed.They don't care about wasting taxpayer money to virtue signal. Pass it, enforce it until it gets struck down then blame the nra for making the world unsafe for the children. Somehow they want us to believe the nra is a terrorist organization while they are the ones trying to take our rights via lawless behavior. Maybe I just need to move to Florida or Texas and watch this state crumble under the weight of its corruption from afar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted February 23, 2019 at 07:23 PM Share Posted February 23, 2019 at 07:23 PM Shouldn't the individual church leadership have the right to set their own guidelines? Seems like gubmint sitting on the edge of the church's bed. You'd think so - that's what the "No Firearms Allowed" signs are for! A business is free to post the sign - but a church falls under nanny government control?Don't you know people who attend church are to stupid to think for themselves and need the government to think for them. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted February 24, 2019 at 04:39 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 04:39 PM My Church, Methodist, bans guns now, handgun control is church doctrine. Church is going to split due to left wing fanaticism. It’s the same as in the rest of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 24, 2019 at 05:15 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 05:15 PM My Church, Methodist, bans guns now, handgun control is church doctrine. Church is going to split due to left wing fanaticism. Its the same as in the rest of society.The United Methodist Church is in bed with the antis (like many other faiths under Christianity). Im Catholic but dont really practice (bet you can guess why lol). The orgs are infiltrating the churches and using it to recruit/promote agenda. The UMC tip sheet on gun discussions. Pretty bad that it talks about forming bible studies in order to draw people in and then spring this discussion on them https://www.umcjustice.org/documents/51 http://i.imgur.com/KAvIAdo.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Kt2NQC9.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/fc1auTp.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/owuT2mB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3Eoeio1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 24, 2019 at 05:34 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 05:34 PM Btw, the Jesus says to be armed http://i.imgur.com/mkSL2Bz.jpg Christian Churches, by going along with this bill or the anti-gun agenda, are going against his word, no? At the time of Christ, the sword was the AR-15 of its day. If Christ was for control of weapons of his men, would he say be armed with sticks and stones or less effective weapons? Not turning this into a religion debate at all btw, just pointing that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted February 24, 2019 at 09:40 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 09:40 PM If an authority declares a gun free zone they become morally responsible for the safety of the persons within. Bills like this should include funding for police officers to provide security but that would ruin the warm fuzzy feels.After Shepard v Madigan bills like this shouldn't be filed. That's what I was wondering? This idiot who proposed this bill needs to be sent the following video by thousands of people: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted February 24, 2019 at 10:57 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 10:57 PM This has come to my attention. I don't have Twitter, or any other social media platform, but those who do should consider retweeting this: https://twitter.com/il2awitnessslip/status/1099798424105431040?s=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:06 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:06 PM This has come to my attention. I don't have Twitter, or any other social media platform, but those who do should consider retweeting this: https://twitter.com/il2awitnessslip/status/1099798424105431040?s=21He responded to them too http://i.imgur.com/3neEfbd.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:12 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:12 PM Wow. Looks like a good sign that maybe he can be reasonable http://i.imgur.com/kVqlcKD.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:38 PM Share Posted February 24, 2019 at 11:38 PM Maybe. He only wants to legally allow 1 firearm per 30 days...sorry, cant get screen capture to work Yehiel Mark Kalish @repymkalish Feb 17That’s why I introduced HB3698. No one needs more... Quote TweetSean CastenWe have too many damned guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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