Ash2323 Posted July 31, 2018 at 02:58 PM Posted July 31, 2018 at 02:58 PM Never thought that a foid appeal would take longer then a year smfh.....i dont understand how hard it is to look at the appeal see there was no conviction and reinstate my foid card.....the wait time sucks and its sad that there is nothing that can be done to get an answer....except the obvious answer of its still in the appeals process there is no time frame on when its going to be looked at what kind of **** is that, seriously thinking about calling them and telling them to cancel the appeal i dont even want the foid/ccl back if its taking over a year god only knows how long its going to take
Kingcreek Posted July 31, 2018 at 08:11 PM Posted July 31, 2018 at 08:11 PM Sad that it's just the way things are in this *expletive deleted* state but no reason to cancel your appeal unless you just want to bring them some joy.I can imagine them laughing and high 5'ing each other when they end your call.
BigJim Posted August 1, 2018 at 03:06 PM Posted August 1, 2018 at 03:06 PM Send a PM to Molly, she is the goddess of appeals (and all things FOID and FCCL). Maybe she can find out what the delay is or better yet light a fire under someone.
Ash2323 Posted August 2, 2018 at 04:02 PM Author Posted August 2, 2018 at 04:02 PM Sent a pm to molly couple of times she has tried but nothing yet this sate is a sad case and isp sucks
SDF678 Posted August 22, 2018 at 01:02 AM Posted August 22, 2018 at 01:02 AM I have a question for everyone. What is the longest amount of time that the ISP has kept a FOID card appeal in limbo? Do they finally give in after 2 years, 3 years? Really, how can they justify never taking action on an appeal?
Monty80 Posted August 22, 2018 at 04:13 AM Posted August 22, 2018 at 04:13 AM My appeal took exactly 6 months and a friend of mine had his take a year. Both denials were for the same case 20 years prior that were reported to the state incorrectly.
Kingcreek Posted August 22, 2018 at 03:19 PM Posted August 22, 2018 at 03:19 PM Ash, you should call your state rep and state senators offices and get them involved. Also call the governors office. A few years ago my app was in but I had not received my new card before expiration of the old one. I called my state rep and a rep of a neighboring district that I knew was pro gun, and I called the governors office. I called them all every day. I called the ISP and was told just to keep my guns locked up and unloaded and don't use them or transport them or anything. I told them that was UNNACCEPTABLE. After they started hearing from reps and the governors office, they suddenly found time to process my app!
InterestedBystander Posted August 22, 2018 at 03:50 PM Posted August 22, 2018 at 03:50 PM I called the ISP and was told just to keep my guns locked up and unloaded and don't use them or transport them or anything.Same response I received when I had called and expiration was near.
Hydeparkaneakers Posted September 1, 2018 at 02:48 PM Posted September 1, 2018 at 02:48 PM I filed my appeal on 4/4/18 and no word back. When I call they repeat the same thing. It's under review. My foid got revoked when I applied for my CCL. They said I had a juvenile record. I got it expunged and been waiting.I need my foid for work and been suffering every since. Wow
SDF678 Posted September 5, 2018 at 03:18 AM Posted September 5, 2018 at 03:18 AM Well everyone in a couple days my FOID appeal will have been filed 18 months ago. So a question. What is involved in the appeal process on the ISP side? Let me explain what I am asking. Mr ISP employee grabs a FOID appeal packet from the stack. What does he do with it? I would think he runs a criminal background check on the person. Does he call the people that wrote the letters of reference? Does he make sure you have completed any sentence you may have been given? Does he check the validity of the information you sent in? What else? From the IL codes it would appear that four items are listed that you must satisfy for a FOID appeal to be successful. Why does this take so long? Seems this is very cut and dry. How many actual ISP employees are actually involved in looking at your appeal? I know what I sent in. I do not understand why looking at the information, checking it and making a determination based on written law takes so long.
Kingcreek Posted September 5, 2018 at 02:29 PM Posted September 5, 2018 at 02:29 PM Well everyone in a couple days my FOID appeal will have been filed 18 months ago. So a question. What is involved in the appeal process on the ISP side? Let me explain what I am asking. Mr ISP employee grabs a FOID appeal packet from the stack. What does he do with it? I would think he runs a criminal background check on the person. Does he call the people that wrote the letters of reference? Does he make sure you have completed any sentence you may have been given? Does he check the validity of the information you sent in? What else? From the IL codes it would appear that four items are listed that you must satisfy for a FOID appeal to be successful. Why does this take so long? Seems this is very cut and dry. How many actual ISP employees are actually involved in looking at your appeal? I know what I sent in. I do not understand why looking at the information, checking it and making a determination based on written law takes so long.Have you called your state rep, state senator, and governors office? Keep calling and complaining to them! Your file is buried in the stack and long forgotten. Waiting patiently obviously isn't working for you.After a few calls from the governors office, state reps etc to ISP, someone at the isp-fab will almost magically locate your buried file, look at it, and approve it if everything is in order.
SDF678 Posted September 6, 2018 at 01:16 AM Posted September 6, 2018 at 01:16 AM I have spoken with my State Rep. He has spoken with the Governor's office and the ISP multiple times. He said the ISP blew him off. I have spoken with the Governor's office. I sent a letter to the Governor's office. I sent a letter to the ISP. I paid a local attorney to check into this. The attorney wrote a letter and has made multiple phone calls to the ISP. No response to the attorney. Molly has spoken to the ISP and the Governor's office back in early July. I am told my appeal was brought to the attention of both.
BigJim Posted September 6, 2018 at 03:43 PM Posted September 6, 2018 at 03:43 PM Time to bring out the big guns (pardon the pun)... send a PM to Molly. She will light a fire under someone's butt and make it happen.
SDF678 Posted September 6, 2018 at 06:25 PM Posted September 6, 2018 at 06:25 PM Molly and I have gone back and forth for probably over a year now. She has gone above and beyond what should be necessary to resolve this situation.
Mr. Fife Posted September 7, 2018 at 08:09 PM Posted September 7, 2018 at 08:09 PM I got my foid renewal letter today, and just completed the online renewal process. Just posting to start the clock ticking. Luckily there was a convenience fee of only 1 dollar that saved me from just paying with cash.
Mr. Fife Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:25 PM Posted October 6, 2018 at 01:25 PM Applied 9/7/18 Website says issued on 9/28/2018 Nothing in the mail yet.
Mr. Fife Posted October 6, 2018 at 06:29 PM Posted October 6, 2018 at 06:29 PM I posted too soon. It arrived today.
Penumbra1811 Posted October 6, 2018 at 11:25 PM Posted October 6, 2018 at 11:25 PM Seven months for me on the appeal it's terrible that we all have to go through this it doesn't have to be this way they could fix the problems if they wanted to but they won't. I just believe the don't want gun owners they simply don't care if they did they would of had this fixed.
InterestedBystander Posted October 7, 2018 at 12:05 AM Posted October 7, 2018 at 12:05 AM I got my foid renewal letter today, and just completed the online renewal process. Just posting to start the clock ticking. Luckily there was a convenience fee of only 1 dollar that saved me from just paying with cash.How...convenient...How does the state manage to put a price on convenience...yet they manage to do so. ;-)
Novakj126 Posted October 11, 2018 at 07:31 PM Posted October 11, 2018 at 07:31 PM Over a year for me as well. Same situation. I will probably be moved to Indiana before it even gets reinstated at this point lol.
SDF678 Posted October 23, 2018 at 01:31 AM Posted October 23, 2018 at 01:31 AM My wait is over 19 months now.
Penumbra1811 Posted October 23, 2018 at 01:39 PM Posted October 23, 2018 at 01:39 PM These wait times are ridiculous we must do something, anything to make our wait time shorter. ISP is doing this on purpose I could literly do several in one day it does not take this long for a appeal. This really ticks me off but I'm sure it's what the ISP wants.
InterestedBystander Posted October 23, 2018 at 03:18 PM Posted October 23, 2018 at 03:18 PM These wait times are ridiculous we must do something, anything to make our wait time shorter. ISP is doing this on purpose I could literly do several in one day it does not take this long for a appeal. This really ticks me off but I'm sure it's what the ISP wants.We need Rauner reelected. The board has made progress. But if Pritzker is elected and gets to appoint a new board in January, who knows what will happen.
Penumbra1811 Posted October 23, 2018 at 06:27 PM Posted October 23, 2018 at 06:27 PM I'm voting for Rauner for sure I hope to God he wins because if Pritzger gets elected in I'm sure I will never get my gun rights restored.
SDF678 Posted October 23, 2018 at 09:05 PM Posted October 23, 2018 at 09:05 PM I still want to know more about behind the scenes to process a FOID appeal. How many people are working on appeals?How many man hours per week are spent working on appeals?What EXACTLY happens when an appeal packet is picked up off the pile?How many man hours does it take to process an appeal?What is the name of the person that has the final say either yes or no to a FOID appeal? This is not national security. Taxpayer funds are being used. The ISP is a taxpayer funded organization. Taxpayers, you and I, have a right to know how our money is being spent.
SDF678 Posted October 31, 2018 at 03:24 AM Posted October 31, 2018 at 03:24 AM Nearly 20 months in the appeal process and over 2 years since I first applied for my FOID but I am active now on the ISP website. I lack the vocabulary to express how happy I am. Over 25 years have gone by since I last had a FOID card.
Novakj126 Posted November 1, 2018 at 12:57 AM Posted November 1, 2018 at 12:57 AM Nearly 20 months in the appeal process and over 2 years since I first applied for my FOID but I am active now on the ISP website. I lack the vocabulary to express how happy I am. Over 25 years have gone by since I last had a FOID card. Congrats. I'm at about 13-14 months and hoping I don't reach the 20 month mark. Is there anything you did to speed up the process other than reaching out to Molly B? Please message me if you think you could help. Thank you.
chemical operator1 Posted August 23, 2019 at 01:51 PM Posted August 23, 2019 at 01:51 PM I am appealing my FOID denial also.....tried going the court route first. Looks like my case is getting thrown out for the time being. My lawyer called today and said we have to ask for relief from the Director of the ISP first...then go to court. SA filed a motion to dismiss the case due to us not doing that 735 ILCS 5/2-619(A)(1). But my lawyer also said that the appeals he has in through the ISP are currently almost a year with no action. He has 13 in there now with no action from the ISP yet....He is thinking about filing a class action lawsuit so they start to act on these. Unfortunately there is no time limit for them to do so. I hope the NRA and ILSRA act on this too. Pretty sure I'll be denied again, then we can go ahead to court. Just some info on those who want to go to court...you MUST appeal the ISP first BEFORE you go to court. My lawyer is drawing up my appeal as we speak...Not holding my breath as I hear this could take FOREVER!!
wolfcreek Posted August 23, 2019 at 05:25 PM Posted August 23, 2019 at 05:25 PM My friend.Turn out the lights.The party is over.Illinois is never !!!!! going to do anything about the appeal process. Just imagine.Here we are.People of the united states.Begging for our rights.In the most corrupt state in our country.Lets be honest here.Do you really think things will change.Look at whats going on in the country.I remember our governor saying on tv."There will be no place in Illinois for the NRA to hide.I know,I know.NEVER QUIT , NEVER SURRENDER.How about this Those who fight and leave ILLINOIS.Live to fight another day.For those of you that have to stay.I'm sorry.It's not just about the 2nd amendment.Look at the big picture in Illinois.Sometimes in life you have to do what we say in the Marines. Adjust,Adapt,Re-group
InterestedBystander Posted August 23, 2019 at 05:59 PM Posted August 23, 2019 at 05:59 PM My friend.Turn out the lights.The party is over.Illinois is never !!!!! going to do anything about the appeal process. Just imagine.Here we are.People of the united states.Begging for our rights.In the most corrupt state in our country.Lets be honest here.Do you really think things will change.Look at whats going on in the country.I remember our governor saying on tv."There will be no place in Illinois for the NRA to hide.I know,I know.NEVER QUIT , NEVER SURRENDER.How about this Those who fight and leave ILLINOIS.Live to fight another day.For those of you that have to stay.I'm sorry.It's not just about the 2nd amendment.Look at the big picture in Illinois.Sometimes in life you have to do what we say in the Marines. Adjust,Adapt,Re-groupMany Illinois gun owners and pro 2A supporters seem quite ambivalent or have given up these days. With 2.2M+ FOIDs and 320K+ CCLs it seems we should have greater influence getting back to the days when ILGA members were calling Todd begging him to make us stop contacting them.
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