Foidmayweather Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:39 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:39 AM Hey all, my foid application got denied due to mental health prohibitor. It was over 5 years ago I went to a psychiatrist and he signed that form that is under the required things, and was sent to the isp. So I'm wondering is that enough is my appeal process started? Trying to get foid and ccl for employment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandInstructor Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:42 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:42 AM Send Molly B a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:53 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 12:53 AM All of the following must be submitted : https://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/MentalHealth.pdfhttps://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/AppealRequest.pdfhttps://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/Investigation.pdfhttps://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/MentalHealthCert.pdfhttps://ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/Evaluation.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:42 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:42 AM He checked the box saying you're a danger to yourself or others, yet did not have you involuntarily admitted to a psych ward? Shrinks are (supposedly) logical people, so I'd like to pose this question to the shrink: "If I'm such a danger to others, or even myself, then why are you gonna let me walk out this door without a pair of handcuffs on and an armed man escorting me out?" Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:46 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 01:46 AM (edited) He checked the box saying you're a danger to yourself or others, yet did not have you involuntarily admitted to a psych ward? Shrinks are (supposedly) logical people, so I'd like to pose this question to the shrink: "If I'm such a danger to others, or even myself, then why are you gonna let me walk out this door without a pair of handcuffs on and an armed man escorting me out?" Sent from my VS987 using TapatalkWasnt sure if there was a missing period in that sentence. Is he perhaps saying the mental health thing was over 5 yrs ago and his FOID was denied so he went to get form signed saying he was not a danger and sent that as appeal. Edited July 26, 2017 at 01:47 AM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:07 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:07 AM Ah, apologies I read fast and miss stuff every now and then. Over five years ago. Unless you were admitted to a psych ward then I'd truly wonder about that doc's ideology. Shrinks are notoriously anti-gun, so even finding one who's willing to do an objective evaluation and certify that you are mentally firm is gonna be a bit of trouble. Either way, looks like you're going shrink shopping. Alternatively, as InterestedBystander suggested, go to your original doc and have him sign off, since he (or she) is the most qualified individual to make that call. Making the huge assumption that it'll be objective and not "How can I infringe on this guy's civil rights...again?" Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:31 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:31 AM I think he means he applied for a FOID card but was denied because he had a mental disqualifier more than 5 years ago. In that case, the applicant must undergo a mental health evaluation and the psychiatrist must send in the required form and letter to the ISP. The poster is wondering if that process starts the appeal process. The appeal process does not begin until all the other forms are submitted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy6862 Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:42 AM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 02:42 AM i did a this if you need help with it pm. me ill give you name of doc. that knows how to do the rite things rite. filling out forms are easy you will need to get your med. records to. tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foidmayweather Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:12 AM Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:12 AM Thank you is there a fee I have to send in to or no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foidmayweather Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM Sorry about the confusion I already went to a random psych doctor and I had to give him my medical records, and he signed it for me after he reviewed my records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted July 26, 2017 at 05:48 PM Share Posted July 26, 2017 at 05:48 PM Sorry about the confusion I already went to a random psych doctor and I had to give him my medical records, and he signed it for me after he reviewed my records If nothing else, I have to give great credit for that Forum ID you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foidmayweather Posted July 27, 2017 at 03:29 AM Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 at 03:29 AM Lmao thanks man it just came to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescooling Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:02 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:02 PM There was a incident where a police report was made and that's how the ISP knows about a mental health issue? Or did you tell them about a event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted September 24, 2017 at 11:46 PM Share Posted September 24, 2017 at 11:46 PM There was a incident where a police report was made and that's how the ISP knows about a mental health issue? Or did you tell them about a event?Mental health providers in Illinois are required to report their patients to the ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted September 25, 2017 at 02:31 PM Share Posted September 25, 2017 at 02:31 PM There was a incident where a police report was made and that's how the ISP knows about a mental health issue? Or did you tell them about a event?Mental health providers in Illinois are required to report their patients to the ISP. That's why I would never see a mental health provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar8000 Posted September 25, 2017 at 03:21 PM Share Posted September 25, 2017 at 03:21 PM That's why I would never see a mental health provider. And this is why system has to be fixed. People need to be able to get their health in order w/o fear of loosing their rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainPatriot Posted September 26, 2017 at 04:51 AM Share Posted September 26, 2017 at 04:51 AM (edited) There was a incident where a police report was made and that's how the ISP knows about a mental health issue? Or did you tell them about a event?Mental health providers in Illinois are required to report their patients to the ISP. Only when the practitioner believes the person to be a CLEAR AND IMMEDIATE DANGER to himself and/or to others. In the OP's case, the guy must have thought him to be a threat, and was obligated to report him. Fearing similar issues, I scoured the DHS' website for every bit of information I could find. They only have to report it when they believe you to be a CLEAR AND IMMEDIATE DANGER, or mental handicapped. It would not apply to people that visit psychologists/psychiatrists, even if they are diagnosed and taking prescription medications. Outpatient self-care (visiting a shrink every once in a while, living independently, and self-administering prescription medication) is not considered "treatment" (as referenced in the application), according to what I read. I could have misinterpreted it though, so I encourage you to read through it yourself. I am not a lawyer, nor do I have any experience with anything that would qualify me as any form of a professional in this area. Edited September 26, 2017 at 04:53 AM by BornAgainPatriot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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