Cerus Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:04 PM Share Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:04 PM I was saying that in the event they deny my foid for good, at that point it's 200 bucks I can't get back. I just hope I can get this straightened out. Ah I see your concern. I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you answered truthfully to all the questions and have a clean record. Probably just a screw up somewhere in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcogdell Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:15 PM Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:15 PM Yet another question for everyone. Is it common for someone to be denied or is it uncommon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:23 PM Share Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:23 PM It seems a bit strange that when you called they told you the reason denied was not available. If your background is clean with no charges or orders of protection, then perhaps a mix up with someone of a similar name, birthday or address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcogdell Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:25 PM Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:25 PM They told me it was against their protocol to tell me and that I had to wait until I received the paper in the mail and it would have the things I would need to do to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcogdell Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:26 PM Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 at 10:26 PM I have had MULTIPLE Background checks for jobs as well as for the TSA as my job took me onto airport property and I have had zero issues. That's why I am so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted November 17, 2016 at 04:13 AM Share Posted November 17, 2016 at 04:13 AM They told me it was against their protocol to tell me and that I had to wait until I received the paper in the mail and it would have the things I would need to do to appeal.Seems that their info would be correct.In most cases, "In Illinois" how would they be able to tell who you are over the phone?I'm sure they weren't being maliciousAnd with the info they told you above, I'd wait till you receive that letter, read it and attempt to follow the appeals process. Not to sound or be rude, but we can't change the situation here, and if they've said get the letter and then move forward, you're just going to drive yourself crazy trying to get more answers. I'll go out on that limb and say your a great guy, I'll take your word, and it's just a glitch, hang in there 99% of these things seem to work out in a short time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcogdell Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:09 PM Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 at 01:09 PM They told me it was against their protocol to tell me and that I had to wait until I received the paper in the mail and it would have the things I would need to do to appeal.Seems that their info would be correct.In most cases, "In Illinois" how would they be able to tell who you are over the phone?I'm sure they weren't being maliciousAnd with the info they told you above, I'd wait till you receive that letter, read it and attempt to follow the appeals process. Not to sound or be rude, but we can't change the situation here, and if they've said get the letter and then move forward, you're just going to drive yourself crazy trying to get more answers. I'll go out on that limb and say your a great guy, I'll take your word, and it's just a glitch, hang in there 99% of these things seem to work out in a short time!Thanks Thanks!!! I will keep everyone posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted November 17, 2016 at 03:24 PM Share Posted November 17, 2016 at 03:24 PM Ill go out on that limb and say your a great guy, I'll take your word, and it's just a glitch, hang in there 99% of these things seem to work out in a short time! It seems that they have a lot of glitches, probably due to user error. I have a co-worker who applied for his FOID back in July and still hasn't received it yet. They sent him a letter in Sept stating that his "name didn't exist". What I'm guessing is that they thought his name didn't match his driver's license. He verified that what he entered was correct and it did indeed match and re-submitted on the Web site. Then in October they sent him a denial letter, still stating that they had no record of him and he was denied. He tried to call them multiple times, but every time there was just a recording stating that all lines were busy and to try again later. There was no way to leave a message either. He was about to consult with a lawyer to bring a lawsuit against the state for denial of rights. I told him he should just keep trying to call them in the meantime. Finally two days ago he got through and was able to speak to someone. It turns out that some dimwit over at wherever they process and check the FOID applications was mistyping his name, more than once apparently. He got it straightened out and is now approved, but still does not have his FOID. When it's all said and done, it will be about 5 months that he had to wait. Really, the entire FOID act needs to be repealed. Not only because it's unconstitutional, but it seems that IL can't seem to handle the process correctly anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted November 17, 2016 at 04:50 PM Share Posted November 17, 2016 at 04:50 PM @Bitter ClingerReally, the entire FOID act needs to be repealed. Not only because it's unconstitutional, but it seems that IL can't seem to handle the process correctly anyway. Not to side track the topic but if it's unconstitutional and has been in exsistence for 45 years, IIRC, why hasn't someone or some Pro2 orginazation filed suit by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted November 17, 2016 at 05:10 PM Share Posted November 17, 2016 at 05:10 PM @Bitter ClingerReally, the entire FOID act needs to be repealed. Not only because it's unconstitutional, but it seems that IL can't seem to handle the process correctly anyway.Not to side track the topic but if it's unconstitutional and has been in exsistence for 45 years, IIRC, why hasn't someone or some Pro2 orginazation filed suit by now?My first thought was money but I doubt they're making much on a 10yr/10$ license. More likely it's just become too ingrained in IL law and the antis would have a field day with claims that "felons can now buy guns" as if they have a FOID in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted November 20, 2016 at 12:16 PM Share Posted November 20, 2016 at 12:16 PM @Bitter Clinger Really, the entire FOID act needs to be repealed. Not only because it's unconstitutional, but it seems that IL can't seem to handle the process correctly anyway. Not to side track the topic but if it's unconstitutional and has been in exsistence for 45 years, IIRC, why hasn't someone or some Pro2 orginazation filed suit by now? I've always wondered the same thing. My guess is that nobody bothers to challenge it because this state is so corrupt, the lawsuit would go nowhere. Either that or it's like Cerus said above. It's just been around too long and has become accepted "that's just the way things are" even though it's unlawful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted November 20, 2016 at 10:50 PM Share Posted November 20, 2016 at 10:50 PM @Bitter ClingerReally, the entire FOID act needs to be repealed. Not only because it's unconstitutional, but it seems that IL can't seem to handle the process correctly anyway. Not to side track the topic but if it's unconstitutional and has been in exsistence for 45 years, IIRC, why hasn't someone or some Pro2 orginazation filed suit by now? It's something that needs to be done legislatively - that would be difficult at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted November 20, 2016 at 10:55 PM Share Posted November 20, 2016 at 10:55 PM Always been curious as to these rulings and the Illinois FOID card and any CCL- "No state may convert a secured liberty into a privilege, and issue a license and fee for it." MURDOCK v. PENNSYLVANIA, 319 U.S. 105 and "If the state does convert a right into a privilege and issue a license and charge a fee for it, you can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right with impunity." SHUTTLESWORTH V. BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, 373 U.S. 262 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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