howie Posted June 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM Another one..... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/gunman-dies-after-mass-casualty-shooting-at-orlando-nightclub.html?intcmp=hpbt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted June 12, 2016 at 11:51 AM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 11:51 AM http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160612/eb74e1cc32be3ee55a89a60c71e118ca.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:07 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:07 PM This is being investigated as a "domestic terrorist" incident, which implies there is no international connection. Time will tell whether that initial assumption is correct. Of course, as in Illinois, this nightclub was a gun-free zone (aka "killing zone"). How abhorrently tragic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:13 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:13 PM Prayers are sent to the Family's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:19 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:19 PM Prayers go out to all the victims, survivors and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:22 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:22 PM Now Hillary can really drive home the point as to why law-abiding citizens shouldn't have guns. The whole country will be a GFZ and we will all be safe then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:46 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:46 PM This is being investigated as a "domestic terrorist" incident, which implies there is no international connection. Time will tell whether that initial assumption is correct. Of course, as in Illinois, this nightclub was a gun-free zone (aka "killing zone"). How abhorrently tragic. .Since Islam is a world-wide "peaceful" religion, it should be investigated as international terrorism. The killer got his ideas from somewhere and it wasn't Popular Mechanics magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:51 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:51 PM Avoid gun free zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM The killer got his ideas from somewhere and it wasn't Popular Mechanics magazine. Well Todd did report that Biden was on the recent cover of Popular Mechanics so it very well could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM Avoid gun free zones. People get upset if they can't enter a location because it's posted. I say good riddance. Plenty of places to shop and eat. I used to think No Guns No Money cards were a good idea. Threw them in the trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:01 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:01 PM Avoid gun free zones. People get upset if they can't enter a location because it's posted. I say good riddance. Plenty of places to shop and eat. I used to think No Guns No Money cards were a good idea. Threw them in the trash. Agreed about the good riddance, I just go shop elsewhere. And while I don't pass out the card because truth be told if the conversation devolved into an argument, and it will, that's not being a good ambassador. So Instead I use social media. It's not just enough that shops lose business, but they have to know that they are losing business and WHY they are losing business so that we can affect change. However if this were IL, this club would be a statutory gun free zone due to the provision that I call, "death to designated drivers", preventing people from carrying in 51% alcohol establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:04 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:04 PM Avoid gun free zones. People get upset if they can't enter a location because it's posted. I say good riddance. Plenty of places to shop and eat. I used to think No Guns No Money cards were a good idea. Threw them in the trash. Agreed about the good riddance, I just go shop elsewhere. And while I don't pass out the card because truth be told if the conversation devolved into an argument, and it will, that's not being a good ambassador. So Instead I use social media. It's not just enough that shops lose business, but they have to know that they are losing business and WHY they are losing business so that we can affect change. However if this were IL, this club would be a statutory gun free zone due to the provision that I call, "death to designated drivers", preventing people from carrying in 51% alcohol establishments. I read where the club where this happened was a statutorial GFZ (maybe wrong). What a coincidence about the attack in Paris and this one, huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:08 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:08 PM I read where the club where this happened was a statutorial GFZ (maybe wrong). What a coincidence about the attack in Paris and this one, huh. FL statute prohibits carrying in "any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:11 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:11 PM This is being investigated as a "domestic terrorist" incident, which implies there is no international connection. Time will tell whether that initial assumption is correct. Of course, as in Illinois, this nightclub was a gun-free zone (aka "killing zone"). How abhorrently tragic. .Since Islam is a world-wide "peaceful" religion, it should be investigated as international terrorism. The killer got his ideas from somewhere and it wasn't Popular Mechanics magazine.$ nothing to see there move along sheeple $ http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/pulse-orlando-night-club-shooting-islamic-jihadist-terrorist-attack-terrorism-isis-motive-shooter-muslim-gunman-fbi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:12 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:12 PM I read where the club where this happened was a statutorial GFZ (maybe wrong). What a coincidence about the attack in Paris and this one, huh.FL statute prohibits carrying in "any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose." This was a tragedy but maybe some good could come from it when people start to realize that GFZs make you a sitting duck. I can dream but liberals have some pretty hard heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:21 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:21 PM http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/orlando-islamist-gay-killer-isis-twitter-feed-pictures-killer-pulse-hashtag/ Does THIS make it international terrorism now? Let just wait to see what our high protector Obama has to say about it. Taking bets he won't say "radical Islam" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:38 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:38 PM My prediction: Our dear leader will blame the NRA and American gun owners, and not mention anything about Islamic extremism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:55 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:55 PM http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/orlando-islamist-gay-killer-isis-twitter-feed-pictures-killer-pulse-hashtag/ Does THIS make it international terrorism now? Let just wait to see what our high protector Obama has to say about it. Taking bets he won't say "radical Islam"Of coarse ISIS would cheer... However do we know; was the shooter Muslim? I haven't read one report yet as to nation of origin, religion, photo, name, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnvape Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:58 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 01:58 PM Prayers to the friends and family of the injured and dead., Now my rant: I am not surprised this psycho chooses a GFZ to do this mass killing as he walks in there with a rife knowing no one in this area would have a gun.Now my rant to those reading this who are trying to remove my right to bear arms: If people had been allowed to carry concealed in this place, this psycho would have been stopped before he was allowed to kill and injured that many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:09 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:09 PM http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/orlando-islamist-gay-killer-isis-twitter-feed-pictures-killer-pulse-hashtag/ Does THIS make it international terrorism now? Let just wait to see what our high protector Obama has to say about it. Taking bets he won't say "radical Islam" Of coarse ISIS would cheer... However do we know; was the shooter Muslim? I haven't read one report yet as to nation of origin, religion, photo, name, nothing.From the article in the OP: "The shooter was identified as Omar Mateen, according to several major news outlets citing law enforcement sources. Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S. citizen from Fort Pierce, Fla., allegedly has parents of Afghani origin. Fox News confirmed that the suspected gunman was Muslim. The gunman “may have leanings” toward radical Islam, FBI Special Agent in Charge Ron Hopper said when asked by Fox News whether the suspect had ties to Jihadist terror groups. Hopper said the investigation is looking into possible threats made previously by the suspect in connection to radical Islam groups. He said the agency is still investigating and has yet to confirm any role a terror group may have played in the mass shooting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:14 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:14 PM Ok then. In the reports I read they didn't say. I guess details are still coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:16 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:16 PM Just released at press conference. 50 killed. Prayers for the familes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakPPI Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:21 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:21 PM There are few statutory gfzs in Florida, this place was certainly one of them, no posting required. Posting in Florida is a trespass to property if they ask you to leave and you don't. Regardless, this was a Muslim from Afghanistan shooting up a gay bar during Ramadan. Unless you're a Hillary Clinton supporter, you know exactly what this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:48 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:48 PM Living in the area, I can tell you that this really sucks. Twice in 2 nights. Keep in mind, this tragedy started outside the club and he was engaged with officers before storming in the nightclub and wounding/killing the individuals. The SWAT then communicated with him for 2-3 hours before making entry in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:52 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 02:52 PM A person known to authorities as a problem, possibly if not probably connected to radical Islam goes into a gun free zone full of people that Islam despises and shoots the place up. I cannot wait to hear how this is my fault as a legal gun owner and NRA member and how my rights should be taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:03 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:03 PM I wonder if we'll ever find out how many were shot by the murderer and how many were shot by the police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:07 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:07 PM According to social media, he is a US citizen, born in 1986, from Port Saint Lucie, FL. and both his parents are from Afghanistan. He was a registered Democrat with a security officer and firearms license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:10 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:10 PM MSM is already interviewing family members and "we have to ban assault weapons". Same guns the good guys use to stop or end a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:17 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:17 PM I wonder if we'll ever find out how many were shot by the murderer and how many were shot by the police?OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:17 PM Share Posted June 12, 2016 at 03:17 PM I wonder if we'll ever find out how many were shot by the murderer and how many were shot by the police? OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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