Raw Power Posted April 29, 2016 at 06:50 PM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 06:50 PM So, Chicago's ban on gun stores and shooting ranges has been declared unconstitutional for about four years now I believe. My understanding was that last June there was supposed to be a court case held to determine when, where, and how Chicago gun stores could operate. I've looked just about everywhere and I can't find any update to this case, and the status of what's going on with it. I'm assuming that the case has been continued, but I'm not finding anything explaining what is happening with it. Does anyone have any information as to the status of the case? I'm also curious if anyone has any insight as to how current law and ongoing litigation might affect someone with a Class 3 FFL or C&R FFL within the city limits. Are people able to get guns shipped to them if they are Chicago residents with a C&R or class 3 FFL currently? I realize that a lot of places won't do it due to company policy, but is there currently any legal issue with having firearms shipped to Chicago (for personal use) if you are a properly licensed dealer or collector? For a class 3 FFL, my (admittedly limited) understanding is that they might be subject to the zoning of any gun store (which I believe is largely unconstitutional, but the courts will have to decide Chicago's answer to the US court of appeals). However, C&R FFL holders should not be subject to these restrictions, as they can not be in the business of selling professionally. Is my understanding correct? Edited to add:SAF won this case, now what? https://www.saf.org/2nd-amendment-legal-action/current-litigation/ezell-v-chicago/ http://www.thegunmag.com/12235-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted April 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM Share Posted April 29, 2016 at 11:07 PM I don't think a gun store will happen here. Yes, the outright ban on gun stores and ranges in the city was tossed out and a new ordinance was written that technically allows them. However, the way it works here is most new businesses (especially ones that require special use permits, like bars, liquor stores, ranges, gun stores etc.) need to get the approval of the alderman representing that ward. Do you know any aldermen here who will sign off on that? Rahm would bury them. Someone wanted to open a range on the near west side last year. The alderman was ok with it until he found out a gun store was part of the deal. He then said "never". So as usual, Chicago does the bare minimum to try and avoid being sued. It will need another lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 30, 2016 at 03:29 PM Share Posted April 30, 2016 at 03:29 PM Ezell v Chicago marches on. Think kind thoughts for Rhonda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted April 30, 2016 at 05:04 PM Share Posted April 30, 2016 at 05:04 PM There are only store closings around here. More vacant store fronts than occupied ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 30, 2016 at 05:52 PM Share Posted April 30, 2016 at 05:52 PM There are only store closings around here. More vacant store fronts than occupied ones.That could spell opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted May 1, 2016 at 01:18 AM Share Posted May 1, 2016 at 01:18 AM There are only store closings around here. More vacant store fronts than occupied ones.That could spell opportunity. I think it is because of taxes, regulation, and bs. Who would buy guns and ammo in chicago/cook county when there are special taxs on everything right from the beginning? Who would really want to pay extra? As far as new business opening up, it's only national chains that get bribed with taxpayer money(tiffs) to come here. Who really wants another Olive Garden or Jimmy John's anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted May 1, 2016 at 11:00 PM Share Posted May 1, 2016 at 11:00 PM In most cases one doesn't have to go grovel to their alderman first, but there are still 3 votes that must be in ones favor. - zoning board(business, bldg plans, etc submitted for approval) - zoning board of appeals(public comments if any) - full city council vote One could win the first two and lose at the full council, but most councils follow the recommendations of the two zoning boards. One could have their plans approved, but the general public is overwhelmingly against it, you usually lose the appeal board vote and it's over. Some lose right out of the gate during the zoning board vote for a variety of reasons like improper zoning, conditional use not allowed, etc, etc. Chicago is so corrupt one must show up with an envelope full of cash for these crooks, I mean aldermen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted February 22, 2017 at 09:08 PM Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 at 09:08 PM Apparently, the SAF won this case. Just heard about it today... https://www.saf.org/2nd-amendment-legal-action/current-litigation/ezell-v-chicago/ http://www.thegunmag.com/12235-2/ So are there any pro-gun, or at least marginally less anti-gun aldermen that can be depended upon to move some of this forward? I'd love to see a normalization of gun ownership begin (again) in the city. We've had shooting ranges in city limits within my lifetime (mostly for rimfire, but still). I hope we get back to that point, and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted February 23, 2017 at 12:33 AM Share Posted February 23, 2017 at 12:33 AM Up until the 70s there was a range at Lane Tech for students, so I have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck10th Posted February 23, 2017 at 01:18 AM Share Posted February 23, 2017 at 01:18 AM Up until the 70s there was a range at Lane Tech for students, so I have heard. That was the best part of my high school years. Going down to the indoor rifle range. Obviously not in Chicago but man was that fun from 13-17. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnnuguy Posted February 23, 2017 at 08:00 PM Share Posted February 23, 2017 at 08:00 PM What about the possibility of setting up one of those Mobile Ranges in and around ChiRaq?Just to thumb your nose at the powers that be, if you can have food trucks why not a range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted February 23, 2017 at 08:07 PM Share Posted February 23, 2017 at 08:07 PM What about the possibility of setting up one of those Mobile Ranges in and around ChiRaq?Just to thumb your nose at the powers that be, if you can have food trucks why not a range?Yeah, that's the idea, drop-n-plop.Then the bangers could just stop by and practice that way cool hold the gun sideways shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted February 24, 2017 at 12:36 AM Share Posted February 24, 2017 at 12:36 AM Up until the 70s there was a range at Lane Tech for students, so I have heard.true-used by JROTC till then, and then it was changed to air rifle, which lasted until the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 24, 2017 at 01:53 AM Share Posted February 24, 2017 at 01:53 AM Up until the 70s there was a range at Lane Tech for students, so I have heard. It's true, but nowadays all gun activity takes place in the parking lot. https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160520/roscoe-village/three-eighth-graders-robbed-at-gunpoint-friday-lane-tech-parking-lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googe1227 Posted February 24, 2017 at 02:32 AM Share Posted February 24, 2017 at 02:32 AM I was at LT this past Saturday for some range time with my daughter. Drivers Ed range time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted February 24, 2017 at 07:03 AM Share Posted February 24, 2017 at 07:03 AM Up until the 70s there was a range at Lane Tech for students, so I have heard. In the basement of the Student Center (East) at UIC, across from the pool, they had a small rifle range too.The pool was under the bowling alley?? Just .22lr in bolt action rifles with iron sites firing prone, ammo started at 2 cents a round, later it doubled to 4 cents a round (77-79)All you needed was a student id. Never actually saw the Lane Tech Rifle range IN the building's basement, just the signs pointing to the stairs down, in one of the PE rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 25, 2017 at 02:12 AM Share Posted February 25, 2017 at 02:12 AM http://www.ihsa.org/archive/hstoric/images/marksmanship/englewood_1924.jpg The Englewood Rifle Team of 1924 History of boys rifle marksmanship in Chicago http://www.ihsa.org/archive/hstoric/marksmanship_boys.htm?NOCACHE=5:53:58%20PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:52 PM Share Posted March 2, 2017 at 10:52 PM What has happened to this country that a business needs to get the government's approval to open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted March 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM Share Posted March 2, 2017 at 11:11 PM There are only store closings around here. More vacant store fronts than occupied ones.That could spell opportunity. I think it is because of taxes, regulation, and bs. Who would buy guns and ammo in chicago/cook county when there are special taxs on everything right from the beginning? Who would really want to pay extra? As far as new business opening up, it's only national chains that get bribed with taxpayer money(tiffs) to come here. Who really wants another Olive Garden or Jimmy John's anyway. I sort of had that thought regarding point blank. But they seem to be offering sales and stuff to make up for it. Also you can buy your gun online and pick it up at their store; avoiding the tax. One other way to make up for crook county firearm taxes is throwing in several free range passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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