Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM I didn't find an answer running a search, so I'll ask it now. Can you legally carry two firearms with an illinois CCL? This question was asked during our 2014 CCL training class, and both training instructors did not have a definitive answer. The law says you can carry a concealed firearm, but "a" firearm usually means one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:26 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:26 PM A Chicago-area legislator tried to introduce an amendment that would have limited us to only one firearm. That attempt was easily defeated. Illinois laws are generally permissive; if an action isn't specifically prohibited, it is allowed. Hope this helps. -- Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:27 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:27 PM Interesting reads with the search at top of these boards........ Here's just one such thread: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58290&hl=%2Bcarry+%2Bhandguns&do=findComment&comment=938791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnCrypt Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:27 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 12:27 PM My CCL instructor said there's no limit. I'll go check the fcca once I get to work again to cite an relevant sections. Sent from my Blackberry Priv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:04 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:04 PM Carry as many BUGs as you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:20 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:20 PM Interesting reads with the search at top of these boards........ Here's just one such thread: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58290&hl=%2Bcarry+%2Bhandguns&do=findComment&comment=938791 Thanks for the link, but that doesn't address the legality. Just because several CCL holders are carrying multiple firearms doesn't mean it's legal, or that it won't be challenged by a LEO or DA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:27 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:27 PM Interesting reads with the search at top of these boards........Here's just one such thread: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58290&hl=%2Bcarry+%2Bhandguns&do=findComment&comment=938791 Thanks for the link, but that doesn't address the legality. Just because several CCL holders are carrying multiple firearms doesn't mean it's legal, or that it won't be challenged by a LEO or DA.Then re-read post 3. If neither of your instructors knew this, get your money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:28 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:28 PM If the correct answer doesn't satisfy you, it may be time to hire an attorney to advise you on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:31 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:31 PM If the correct answer doesn't satisfy you, it may be time to hire an attorney to advise you on this matter.+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:44 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:44 PM I have no plans to hire an attorney to answer this question. I was hoping some legal minds in the forum could answer the question. Post #3 is reassuring, but I would like to see a link to that failed amendment attempt. In the past, the majority thought the world was flat, so I guess that made them correct at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:45 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:45 PM As many as you can hide. Nowhere in the laws from the legislature or the rules from the ISP does it say "only one" or "may not carry multiple firearms". Don't overthink it. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockdiver Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:47 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:47 PM I have no plans to hire an attorney to answer this question. I was hoping some legal minds in the forum could answer the question. Post #3 is reassuring, but I would like to see a link to that failed amendment attempt. In the past, the majority thought the world was flat, so I guess that made them correct at that time. You can carry more than 1. This has been covered here several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:58 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 01:58 PM As many as you can hide. Nowhere in the laws from the legislature or the rules from the ISP does it say "only one" or "may not carry multiple firearms". Don't overthink it. AB I agree, but it does say " a firearm", not firearms. I guess this hasn't been challenged in court yet, probably just a matter of time as my CCL instructors suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatwood29 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:02 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:02 PM .......Illinois laws are generally permissive; if an action isn't specifically prohibited, it is allowed....... This ^^^^^^ Laws are not made to allow, they are made to restrict. The FCCA is not there to allow us to carry, it is there to restrict us from carrying except for under certain circumstances (ie. you have a permit) Further more it is there to restrict who is eligible for a permit (ie. those without a FOID are prohibited) The law does not prohibit carry of multiple weapons because it does not state it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob389 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:06 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:06 PM I too was told in my class in January that "a firearm" means 1 firearm. Ask a lawyer, but there is probably a 50% chance he is wrong too until a test case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:11 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:11 PM As many as you can hide. Nowhere in the laws from the legislature or the rules from the ISP does it say "only one" or "may not carry multiple firearms". Don't overthink it. ABThis. This. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatwood29 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:12 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:12 PM As many as you can hide. Nowhere in the laws from the legislature or the rules from the ISP does it say "only one" or "may not carry multiple firearms". Don't overthink it. AB I agree, but it does say " a firearm", not firearms. I guess this hasn't been challenged in court yet, probably just a matter of time as my CCL instructors suggested. I think you are getting down in the weeds here. If the legislative intent was to restrict you to one firearm, that would have been spelled out. They would not have left that up to a word as ambiguous "a" If I recall correctly, that was a major argument of some of the opponents of this bill, that a person would be able to carry 10 guns on them. The bills sponsors agreed, yes it would allow that. Legislative intent means just as much as the letter of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob389 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:21 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:21 PM OK, I like how Jatwood29 puts it. Makes sense to me now. I am going with no limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:22 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:22 PM I too was told in my class in January that "a firearm" means 1 firearm. Ask a lawyer, but there is probably a 50% chance he is wrong too until a test case.Your instructor isn't worth a penny if he believes this. Get your money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:27 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:27 PM OK, I like how Jatwood29 puts it. Makes sense to me now. I am going with no limit. I agree that it makes sense. Your instructor and my instructors weren't sure about it, and I can understand why the uncertainty. Maybe someone like Molly could ask the ISP directly about this and get their response.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:27 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:27 PM Then I guess I can't own two bicycles, since there's no law that says I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:28 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:28 PM I have no plans to hire an attorney to answer this question. I was hoping some legal minds in the forum could answer the question. Post #3 is reassuring, but I would like to see a link to that failed amendment attempt. In the past, the majority thought the world was flat, so I guess that made them correct at that time. Do we work for you?!? If you're unsatisfied with the responses, HIRE AN ATTORNEY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:32 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:32 PM I have no plans to hire an attorney to answer this question. I was hoping some legal minds in the forum could answer the question. Post #3 is reassuring, but I would like to see a link to that failed amendment attempt. In the past, the majority thought the world was flat, so I guess that made them correct at that time. Do we work for you?!? If you're unsatisfied with the responses, HIRE AN ATTORNEY! That's an asinine response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:38 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:38 PM Oh for cryin' out loud. BTW, those interested in the history of this topic may want to dredge up Gov. Quinn's amendatory veto of what is now the carry act. In it, he added a provision restricting licensees to a single firearm. Quinn's attempt to add this restriction (and others) was, of course, rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:41 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:41 PM OP you ask a question and people are nice enough and answer it for you the best they can and you don't accept what they have to offer then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:43 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:43 PM I had my classes in October of 2013.Even back then we were told we could carry as many firearms we wanted. (I forget the township, but one of the instructors was a LEO) Humorously, also noted was that 'legally speaking', you could carry your firearm around in an old Mcdonalds paper bag and it would be legally concealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:44 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:44 PM Oh for cryin' out loud. BTW, those interested in the history of this topic may want to dredge up Gov. Quinn's amendatory veto of what is now the carry act. In it, he added a provision restricting licensees to a single firearm. Quinn's attempt to add this restriction (and others) was, of course, rejected....and would not have been attempted if the law already restricted us to one firearm by law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:50 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:50 PM I can carry "a firearm" on my belt, "a firearm" on my ankle, and "a firearm" in my pocket. All at the same time. $$ Can I cross the street at 2AM wearing a red shirt? I can't find the law that says I can. $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob389 Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:51 PM Share Posted April 14, 2016 at 02:51 PM I too was told in my class in January that "a firearm" means 1 firearm. Ask a lawyer, but there is probably a 50% chance he is wrong too until a test case.Your instructor isn't worth a penny if he believes this. Get your money back. I walked out of the class with less knowledge than I started with. They should have paid me to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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