Jsanc Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:22 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:22 PM I read about this before, but it's confusing. Do you need to go to the ISP website to enter the FOID number of the buyer and get an OK before making a sale. I know you have to do the 3 day waiting period. Any help with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:27 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:27 PM No, you do not - it's optional. If you do, you get an additional liability blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:32 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:32 PM I read about this before, but it's confusing. Do you need to go to the ISP website to enter the FOID number of the buyer and get an OK before making a sale. I know you have to do the 3 day waiting period. Any help with this. Yes, you certainly do have to get an ok from the ISP website. They will give you an approval number that is valid for 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:39 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:39 PM If you do run and get approval from ISP, you can not be held responsible if it is use in a crime. However there is no penalty if you do not run the FOID check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcat44 Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:48 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:48 PM I read about this before, but it's confusing. Do you need to go to the ISP website to enter the FOID number of the buyer and get an OK before making a sale. I know you have to do the 3 day waiting period. Any help with this.Person to Person Firearms Transfer430 ILCS 65/3(a-10) - Any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer and who desires to transfer or sell a firearm or firearms to any person who is not a federally licensed firearm dealer shall, before selling or transferring the firearms, contact the Department of State Police with the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card number to determine the validity of the transferee's or purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card. This subsection shall not be effective until January 1, 2014. The Department of State Police may adopt rules concerning the implementation of this subsection. The Department of State Police shall provide the seller or transferor an approval number if the purchaser's Firearm Owner's Identification Card is valid. Approvals issued by the Department for the purchase of a firearm pursuant to this subsection are valid for 30 days from the date of issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:49 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:49 PM It is the law that you must get an approval from the ISP. You need to do it before the transfer takes place but not necessarily before the "sale" takes place. One response said it is optional but the law says it must take place. There is no penalty for not doing it as far as I can see in the law though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:50 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:50 PM I read about this before, but it's confusing. Do you need to go to the ISP website to enter the FOID number of the buyer and get an OK before making a sale. I know you have to do the 3 day waiting period. Any help with this. Yes, you certainly do have to get an ok from the ISP website. They will give you an approval number that is valid for 30 days.This is not correct. It is not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:52 PM Share Posted March 27, 2016 at 11:52 PM No penalty = not required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kach33 Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:01 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:01 AM No penalty = not requiredI takes literally under a minute. Why not do it for a little extra peace of mind and insurance if you ever needed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:15 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:15 AM No penalty = not requiredI takes literally under a minute. Why not do it for a little extra peace of mind and insurance if you ever needed it?Exactly how the anti's want you to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kach33 Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:41 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 12:41 AM What?..The cops knocking on my door asking why I sold a gun to a felon who just used that gun to murder a family of four has nothing to do with anti's..you don't wanna take 30 seconds of your day to make sure you're doing things legally, be my guest. All I asked was why not do it, not for the anti's, but for your own peace of mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmac702 Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:07 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:07 AM Also, don't forget the Cook County transfer form if you reside in Cook County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:12 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:12 AM · Hidden by Lou, March 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM - No reason given Hidden by Lou, March 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM - No reason given If transferring a handgun, Cook County can screw off Link to comment
wtr100 Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:21 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:21 AM No penalty = not requiredI takes literally under a minute. Why not do it for a little extra peace of mind and insurance if you ever needed it?Exactly how the anti's want you to think. you're wrong please stop giving bad advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadchucker Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:24 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:24 AM Any resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of, regardless of where the firearm was sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190(a)). Any non-resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of within Cook County (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190(). http://www.cookcountysheriff.com/pdf/Press/ReportOfLostStolenDestroyedOrTransferredFirearms041014t.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:33 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:33 AM Handguns are preempted by PA 98-063 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:42 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:42 AM I guess we don't know if it's required or not to check the FOID at the ISP website, but it's a very simple process and helps protect you. I'd do it. Also, draw up a bill of sale, both sign and each retain a copy. Also helps protect you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadchucker Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:38 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:38 AM Here is the link: https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Firearms/FOID/PersonToPersonFirearmTransfer.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted March 28, 2016 at 04:12 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 04:12 AM I read about this before, but it's confusing. Do you need to go to the ISP website to enter the FOID number of the buyer and get an OK before making a sale. I know you have to do the 3 day waiting period. Any help with this.You'll also need the buyers Date of Birth to get an approval number. Once you have that, there's an option to print out the form with FOID#, Approval#, etc. It's a relatively simple process. I thought it was mandatory, so I do it when selling, and almost everyone selling here, mentions the FOID Check as a prerequisite for a sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted March 28, 2016 at 04:16 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 04:16 AM · Hidden by Lou, March 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM - No reason given Hidden by Lou, March 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM - No reason given If transferring a handgun, Cook County can screw off+1 Cook County RegistrationCook County Ammo TaxCook County $25 Gun Tax A bit much, no? Link to comment
357 Posted March 28, 2016 at 05:36 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 05:36 AM I guess we don't know if it's required or not to check the FOID at the ISP website, but it's a very simple process and helps protect you. I'd do it. Also, draw up a bill of sale, both sign and each retain a copy. Also helps protect you.I see it as voluntary registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted March 28, 2016 at 05:37 AM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 05:37 AM Any resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of, regardless of where the firearm was sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190(a)). Any non-resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of within Cook County (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190(). http://www.cookcountysheriff.com/pdf/Press/ReportOfLostStolenDestroyedOrTransferredFirearms041014t.pdfHaven't heard anyone do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:41 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:41 PM I guess we don't know if it's required or not to check the FOID at the ISP website, but it's a very simple process and helps protect you. I'd do it. Also, draw up a bill of sale, both sign and each retain a copy. Also helps protect you. I see it as voluntary registration. What's being registered exactly? The only thing you're plugging in is a FOID number and a DOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnCrypt Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:58 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 01:58 PM wow, this thread went full retard. lol. why would you not want to just follow the law as written to prevent yourself from losing your ccl/foid or being prosecuted for selling to a felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:10 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:10 PM wow, this thread went full retard. lol. why would you not want to just follow the law as written to prevent yourself from losing your ccl/foid or being prosecuted for selling to a felon.+1 The FOID is a load of crap but I'd rather not lose my rights and sit in jail on my principals. The antis would love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGL Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:25 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 02:25 PM Any resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of, regardless of where the firearm was sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190(a)). Any non-resident of Cook County must notify the Cook County Sheriff’s Office, by completion of this form, within 48 hours, when his or her firearm is sold, transferred, inherited or otherwise disposed of within Cook County (Cook County Ord. Sec. 58-190( ). http://www.cookcountysheriff.com/pdf/Press/ReportOfLostStolenDestroyedOrTransferredFirearms041014t.pdfHaven't heard anyone do it. Yeah, me either. And I didn't do it on the last 2 purchases. EDIT: NVM, looks like this applies to the seller, not the buyer. If I'm reading this correct? It's too early on a Monday to think lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:00 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:00 PM No penalty = not required Just like there is no penalty if ISP doesn't issue your FOID within 30 days? No penalty for ISP, so it's not required for ISP to follow that law? I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:13 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:13 PM I guess we don't know if it's required or not to check the FOID at the ISP website, but it's a very simple process and helps protect you. I'd do it. Also, draw up a bill of sale, both sign and each retain a copy. Also helps protect you. I see it as voluntary registration.What's being registered exactly? The only thing you're plugging in is a FOID number and a DOB.Who made the purchase is being registered. As a private sale didn't have to be reported before. That's what Bloomberg and his people tried to do at the federal level too after sandy hook but the NRA said is registration and the Republicans stopped it. BTW it ignores and violates Illinois and federal law against registration and the ISP is keeping records is not supposed to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD123 Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:25 PM Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:25 PM I guess we don't know if it's required or not to check the FOID at the ISP website, but it's a very simple process and helps protect you. I'd do it. Also, draw up a bill of sale, both sign and each retain a copy. Also helps protect you. I see it as voluntary registration.What's being registered exactly? The only thing you're plugging in is a FOID number and a DOB.Who made the purchase is being registered. As a private sale didn't have to be reported before. That's what Bloomberg and his people tried to do at the federal level too after sandy hook but the NRA said is registration and the Republicans stopped it. BTW it ignores and violates Illinois and federal law against registration and the ISP is keeping records is not supposed to keep. So every time someone on this site runs their own FOID and DOB into the system just to check, they're automatically registering themselves? I've seen numerous posts on here from members who say that they run their number through it for the heck of it. They have no way of knowing whether or not a sale went through. I've even run mine through every now and then. I guess in the eyes of the ISP, I own 15 more guns lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:47 PM Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 at 03:47 PM Thanks for the info. I just want to stay legal and not take any risks on not doing it by law. I'm the buyer and the seller wasn't to sure what the law was. Thank you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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