22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:25 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:25 AM I bought a Stack On 18 gun fire proof safe with combination dial and I cannot open it! It has the three number combination and I did it like the directions said but this damn thing won't open. I tried all different ways. I even went to dicks sporting goods and tried one of theirs with an employee and I opened that one. Went home and still can't open mine. This is really bothering me. I called stack on but they were closed today. Anyone with any experience with this issue please help!
borgranta Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:34 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:34 AM A torch might help.
ScopeEye Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:35 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:35 AM Well that Sucks... Clear the dial by going Left two full turns past the first # Turn right two full rotations stopping on first #Left two turns stopping on second #Right till you stop on the last # Turn handle and open
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:45 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:45 AM Well that Sucks... Clear the dial by going Left two full turns past the first # Turn right two full rotations stopping on first #Left two turns stopping on second #Right till you stop on the last # Turn handle and openI just tried it 3 times still won't open!
mikew Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:58 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:58 AM How famed nuclear physicist Richard Feynman became a safecracker: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/cs588/safecracker.pdf
borgranta Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:01 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:01 AM Here is a link to a mini torch kit that can be used if you are desperate to force it open.http://m.ebay.com/itm/361492160859Also a locksmith may be able to open the safe unless a defect makes it impossible.
ScopeEye Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:03 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:03 AM Maybe you have been givin the wrong comboReturn safeorThere should be a safe number in your paper work / receipts, call manufacture and confirm combo or receive the correct combo, if that's even the issue. You probably wont be able to do till business day, Monday
mikew Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:05 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:05 AM How famed nuclear physicist Richard Feynman became a safecracker: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/cs588/safecracker.pdfThe 2nd and 3rd paragraphs on page 140 give a good clue how to identify the numbers, if you have nothing to do until Monday.
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:05 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:05 AM Yes I thought I might have the wrong combo but its in the paperwork. I will call stack on Monday. I think to get a new combination need to submit copy of driver's license, receipt, notarized and all kinds of bullcrap I don't really want to return it to the store cuz it's on the second floor and it took three of us to bring it up here.
kster Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:12 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:12 AM time to buy a mini cooper, break out the stethescope and the grease pencil
spanishjames Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:26 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:26 AM It's either defective, or you've got the wrong combo.
InterestedBystander Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:47 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:47 AM Has it never been opened...i.e. it came locked from the store? And it's strictly a mechanical dial...no batteries/electronics anywhere to be weak preventing it from opening?
ScopeEye Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:54 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:54 AM Yes I thought I might have the wrong combo but its in the paperwork. I will call stack on Monday. I think to get a new combination need to submit copy of driver's license, receipt, notarized and all kinds of bullcrap I don't really want to return it to the store cuz it's on the second floor and it took three of us to bring it up here.This is Dicks problem, Call them tell them they have to make it right, pick up and redeliver a functioning safe. If they wont, Call CC company dispute charges, if you used a CC
LukeZ Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:58 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:58 AM Usually when I open my safes do not do any jerky motions stop at the number and take your hand off the dial for a second before continuing to the next number, do not touch the opening lever at all during combination dialing. 1) Clear left a few times and then go past first number twice and then land on that number remove your hand for a second 2) turn right and pass the second number twice then land on it, remove hand again 3) turn left past the third number and then land on it 4)Then turn right until dial stops(you can't turn it any further)about a half turn leave it at the stop and turn handle to unlock.
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:58 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 04:58 AM Has it never been opened...i.e. it came locked from the store? And it's strictly a mechanical dial...no batteries/electronics anywhere to be weak preventing it from opening?[/quoteIt is only a dial combination. No electric.Yes it came in a cardboard box and was never opened and still isn't opened:(
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:01 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:01 AM Yes I thought I might have the wrong combo but its in the paperwork. I will call stack on Monday. I think to get a new combination need to submit copy of driver's license, receipt, notarized and all kinds of bullcrap I don't really want to return it to the store cuz it's on the second floor and it took three of us to bring it up here. This is Dicks problem, Call them tell them they have to make it right, pick up and redeliver a functioning safe. If they wont, Call CC company dispute charges, if you used a CCNo I got it from Sam's Club not Dicks. I just went to Dicks to make sure I was doing the combination the right way on one of their safes.
borgranta Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:07 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:07 AM Yes I thought I might have the wrong combo but its in the paperwork. I will call stack on Monday. I think to get a new combination need to submit copy of driver's license, receipt, notarized and all kinds of bullcrap I don't really want to return it to the store cuz it's on the second floor and it took three of us to bring it up here.This is Dicks problem, Call them tell them they have to make it right, pick up and redeliver a functioning safe. If they wont, Call CC company dispute charges, if you used a CCNo I got it from Sam's Club not Dicks. I just went to Dicks to make sure I was doing the combination the right way on one of their safes. No matter where you got it from if the store refuses to make it right calling the credit card company to dispute the charges or in the case of payment by debit card or checking account disputing the charges at your bank. In the case of credit cards they usually do what is called a charge-back which takes the money from the seller. If a store has a high rate of charge-backs they usually will have to pay higher costs to accept credit cards.
LukeZ Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:09 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:09 AM http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=can%27t+open+stack+on+combination+gun+safe&&view=detail&mid=9B32502A54C9A4F399D29B32502A54C9A4F399D2&rvsmid=2E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C32E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C3&FORM=VDFSRV&fsscr=0Great u-tube video showing what I wrote for you! Let us know you got in!
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:11 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:11 AM Usually when I open my safes do not do any jerky motions stop at the number and take your hand off the dial for a second before continuing to the next number, do not touch the opening lever at all during combination dialing.1) Clear left a few times and then go past first number twice and then land on that number remove your hand for a second2) turn right and pass the second number twice then land on it, remove hand again3) turn left past the third number and then land on it4)Then turn right until dial stops(you can't turn it any further)about a half turn leave it at the stop and turn handle to unlock.I tried it like you said 4 times and still didn't open. I'm p*****!
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:23 AM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:23 AM http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=can't+open+stack+on+combination+gun+safe&&view=detail&mid=9B32502A54C9A4F399D29B32502A54C9A4F399D2&rvsmid=2E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C32E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C3&FORM=VDFSRV&fsscr=0Great u-tube video showing what I wrote for you! Let us know you got in![/quotehttp://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=can't+open+stack+on+combination+gun+safe&&view=detail&mid=9B32502A54C9A4F399D29B32502A54C9A4F399D2&rvsmid=2E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C32E2EEB8DD9BA280AE0C3&FORM=VDFSRV&fsscr=0Great u-tube video showing what I wrote for you! Let us know you got in!I did it exactly how the video said and nothing. On the ,4th step the dail didn't stop like he said though.
mikew Posted February 21, 2016 at 06:21 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 06:21 AM Not all combination locks are created equal. Lukez's instructions are for a Sargent&Greenleaf or LaGard lock. The lock for the Stack-On is a simpler style and uses fewer turns. From the website (same as in your manual, I hope)Example: If the dial combination numbers were 70 - 50 - 301. Turn the Dial clockwise passing the firstcombination number twice landing on thenumber the third time.2. Now turn the Dial counterclockwise, passing thesecond combination number once landing onthe number on the next time around.3. Turn the Dial clockwise until you reach the third combination number.4. The handle should now be released. Turn thehandle clockwise. Pull the door towards you.All numbers must be dialed exactly. If you pass anumber, you can not back up. You must start over. All numbers are to be dialed to the Top Notch locatedon top of the dial ring (the 12 o'clock position). Also, is the index mark in the correct place? (12 o clock?)
Cerus Posted February 21, 2016 at 08:55 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 08:55 AM No matter where you got it from if the store refuses to make it right calling the credit card company to dispute the charges or in the case of payment by debit card or checking account disputing the charges at your bank. In the case of credit cards they usually do what is called a charge-back which takes the money from the seller. If a store has a high rate of charge-backs they usually will have to pay higher costs to accept credit cards. What you're suggesting is fraud and likely to not work anyway. The store is under no legal obligation to pick up a safe whether it was delivered, shipped or picked up in store. I'm sure they'll gladly exchange it for another but it's on the customer to attempt to return the product. If it meets the requirements under their return policy and they refuse, then and ONLY then can you dispute charges. The customer is legally required to attempt a return before disputing charges. Chargebacks are one of the biggest forms of abuse and fraud and cost retailers billions each year which in turn costs consumers more at checkout. A retailer that has a high rate of chargebacks doesn't pay higher fees, they just raise prices to consumers. The money is taken from their accounts not the CC processor. Those fees are either paid by the business or passed on to the consumer. First step would be contacting stack on.
GTX63 Posted February 21, 2016 at 11:14 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 11:14 AM I was at an estate auction last year where they sold a large Cabelas gun safe. The auctioneer had left the combination on a piece of paper on the top shelf with the door open. Bidding went high as quite a few people were interested in it. About an hour later as I was leaving the property I happened to walk by the new owner as he was trying to open the safe. The combination wouldn't work. Seems it did before when he and several others shut it and reopened it prior to the sale. No matter what he did he could not get the door open. Apparently someone monkeyed around with the lock and cleared the combo, either by accident or not. Guy was not very happy.
45Badger Posted February 21, 2016 at 11:23 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 11:23 AM Have you had a friend try to open it? Try it, without you hovering, telling him what you did, etc. Could be you are consistently repeating a simple error.
22cal Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:37 PM Author Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:37 PM Have you had a friend try to open it? Try it, without you hovering, telling him what you did, etc. Could be you are consistently repeating a simple error.Man I tried everything like all you guys said. Yes I had my girlfriend try it too. This is driving me crazy.
BIGDEESUL Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:40 PM Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:40 PM I'm sure if you call Monday they'll help you out.
3ddiver Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:53 PM Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:53 PM Long shot and I am sure you have tried this but my safe will not open if the handle is turned all of the way one direction when you enter the combination. It is an electronic lock so I know it is different. Maybe try the handle in a different position?
mikew Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:59 PM Posted February 21, 2016 at 02:59 PM subtract 3 from each of the orginal numbers and try again. add 3 to each of the original numbers and try again. using the instructions for the stack on, not for the S&G lock.
UnderCover Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:32 PM Posted February 21, 2016 at 03:32 PM I hope your guns are not in there. That sucks if it's in there. Sorry about that. Good Luck.
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