mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:03 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:03 PM The proposed Cook County Ammunition Tax Ordinance (File #15-6469) is scheduled to be heard at 1:00 PM today by the Revenue Committee. The Video Feed is now active.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:06 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:06 PM The Committee is coming to order. 13 members are present.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:09 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:09 PM The meeting opens with comments by members of the public. Mr. George Blakemore calls for greater citizen involvement to hold County Government accountable. He indicates his belief that they are all criminals running a dog and pony show.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:13 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:13 PM Mr. William Kylie (sp?) agrees with Mr. Blakemore, quoting Thoreau: "The government is best, which governs least". He states that if one person had voted "No", we would not have the highest sales tax in the country.
gangrel Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:14 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:14 PM The meeting opens with comments by members of the public. Mr. George Blakemore calls for greater citizen involvement to hold County Government accountable. He indicates his belief that they are all criminals running a dog and pony show.He's right. But we all know that.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:17 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:17 PM Ms. Dianna Hatvarth (sp?) speaks in favor of an e-cigarette tax, acknowledging that such a tax is a way to discourage use.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:20 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:20 PM Mark Visokovich (sp?) of the American Heart Association also speaks in favor of the e-cigarette tax . He oddly compares it to a gun v taser argument.
transplant Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:23 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:23 PM Is it voted on today or does it have to move out of this committee and get voted on later?
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Ms. Delphine Cherry of the Brady Campaign, who's daughter was killed by random gang violence, speaks in favor of the ammunition tax.
gregivq Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Haha she held her bloody shirt picture upside down.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Is it voted on today or does it have to move out of this committee and get voted on later? This is only a committee hearing today.
gangrel Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:24 PM Ms. Dianna Hatvarth (sp?) speaks in favor of an e-cigarette tax, acknowledging that such a tax is a way to discourage use.Despite all of the evidence that such taxes do NOT discourage use.
gregivq Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM And now this moron is going to talk about police shootings...how is that related to ammo tax? Is police going to pay this ammo tax?
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM Mr. Darvin Worlds (sp?), who's son was shot 38 times by police, speaks on behalf of the Brady Campaign, citing the oft heard statistics.
DD123 Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:26 PM How does one go about speaking at one of these hearings? I see people going up to give their opinion and I'd absolutely love to go up there in the future to share my thoughts with them.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:28 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:28 PM Ms. Margaret Sense, of the Violence Reduction Team at her church, speaks in favor of the ammo tax but states that it cannot possibly reduce violence.
DD123 Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:28 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:28 PM So far everyone that's gone up to speak their minds about the ammo tax so far are morons. They might just appear to come across as intellectually incapable of forming a logical thought, but I think that they're not just coming across that way.
gregivq Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:29 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:29 PM Mr. Darvin Worlds (sp?), who's son was shot 38 times by police, speaks on behalf of the Brady Campaign, citing the oft heard statistics.I'd consider that yelling and demanding. God bless, alumni, social network, periweenkle, kids, ugh this guy couldn't be more marketable.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:33 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:33 PM Ms. Betty Bolls, of SEIU, speaks of the ammunition tax as manufacturers "paying their fair share", yet the proposed ordinance prohibits the tax being offset.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:39 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:39 PM Additional testimony, unrelated to 2A issues, is offered by representatives of several groups against the many and varied additional taxes put forth by President Preckwinkle today.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:40 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:40 PM Good to see you lurking, Todd.
Patriots & Tyrants Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:41 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:41 PM How about we pay for "gun violence" from seized gang assets?
gregivq Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:45 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:45 PM Considering all of the statistics being thrown around I have to wonder how receptive the speakers would be to a tax on a certain population to offset violent activities. I know...I know...but that is the type of slippery slope they are trying to impose on gun owners.
gangrel Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:50 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:50 PM How about we pay for "gun violence" from seized gang assets?You mean "campaign funds?"
DD123 Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:54 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:54 PM Cook County is going to tax themselves out of existence.
gregivq Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:56 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 07:56 PM Cook County is going to tax themselves out of existence. Yep, I have two Wal-Marts where I buy ammo. I don't even know what Cook county one looks like inside.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:00 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:00 PM Ms. Lorraine Carter expresses her support for the ammunition tax, saying it's similar to the gun tax. She expresses her view that this tax will in some way make her children and grandchildren safer.
barryware Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:04 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:04 PM Ms. Lorraine Carter expresses her support for the ammunition tax, saying it's similar to the gun tax. She expresses her view that this tax will in some way make her children and grandchildren safer."so much violence would not be possible without ammunition" was also spoken..
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:07 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:07 PM In regard to the proposed amusement tax, several commissioners recognize that the County's home rules powers are preempted by state law.
mauserme Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:13 PM Author Posted November 13, 2015 at 08:13 PM Mr. John Coakley, a distributor of vaping products, points out to the board that people will continue to use these products but, if the additional tax is levied, they will purchase them outside the county.
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