Molly B. Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:18 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:18 AM Cook Co. Board President Toni Preckwinkle Continues to Hold Law-abiding Gun Owners Responsible for the Cost of Crime in Cook County! - Cook County Proposes Ammunition Tax -CALL NOW TO OPPOSE THIS UNFAIR TAX!Instead of holding violent criminals accountable for the high cost of their crimes, Board President Toni Preckwinkle wants to punish law-abiding gun owners with an outrageous ammunition tax. Three years ago, the board passed a $25 tax on gun sales under the pretense that it would help to defray healthcare costs caused by violent criminals. A proposed ammo tax failed at that time but now Preckwinkle is back to try again to punish law abiding gun owners for crimes they did not commit.This is not an equal tax on everyone. It is specifically targeting law-abiding firearm owners. The only people who can legally purchase ammunition in IL must have a valid Firearm Owner Identification card, so the only people who will be taxed are the people who are NOT committing violent crimes.The proposed tax will add 5 cents a round to the cost of centerfire ammo, over 20% increase in cost, not counting the regular sales tax. A 1 cent per round for rimfire ammo means an increase of $5.00 a box for 500 .22 rimfire! This is not just about revenue, it is an attack on the 2nd Amendment!If you live in or shop in Cook County, contact the board members and oppose this unfair tax. Cook County District maps are available here. Richard R. Boykin (1st)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4566Main Office Fax: (312) 603-3696Email: richard.boykin@cookcountyil.govRobert Steele (2nd)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-3019Main Office Fax: (312) 603-4055District Phone: (773) 722-0140District Fax: (773) 722-0145Email: r.steele@robertsteele.orgJerry “Iceman” Butler (3rd)Main Office Phone: (312) 603 6391Main Office Fax: (312) 603-5671Email: jerry.butler@cookcountyil.govStanley Moore (4th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-2065Main Office Fax: (312) 603-2039District Phone: (773)783-2412District Fax: (773)783-2799Email: stanley@commissionermoore.comDeborah Sims (5th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603 6381District Phone: (708) 371-4251District Fax: (708) 371-4376Email: deborah.sims@cookcountyil.govJoan Patricia Murphy (6th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4216Main Office Fax: (312) 603-3693District Phone: (708) 389-2125District Fax: (708) 389-2240Email: joan.murphy@cookcountyil.govJesus G. Garcia (7th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-5443Main Office Fax: (312) 603-3759District Phone: (773) 376-2700District Fax: (773) 376-3320Email: Jesus.Garcia@cookcountyil.govLuis Arroyo Jr. (8th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-6386Main Office Fax: (312) 603-9531Email: luis.arroyojr@cookcountyil.govPeter N. Silvestri (9th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4393Main Office Fax: (312) 603-1154District Phone:(773) 444-0346District Fax:(773) 444-0373Email: cookcty9@aol.comBridget Gainer (10th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4210Main Office Fax: (312) 603-3695District Phone: (773) 561-1010District Fax: (773) 561-1025Email: Office@bridgetgainer.comJohn P. Daley (11th)Phone: (312) 603-4400Fax: (312) 603-6688Email: john.daley@cookcountyil.govJohn A. Fritchey (12th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-6380Main Office Fax: (312) 603-1265District Phone: (773)71-4000District Fax: (773) 423-0392Email: commish@fritchey.comLarry Suffredin (13th)Main Office Phone: (312)603-6383Main Office Fax: (312)603-3622Email: larry.suffredin@cookcountyil.govGregg Goslin (14th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4932Main Office Fax: (312) 603-3686District Phone: (847) 729-9300District Fax: (847) 729-2279Email: commissioner.goslin@cookcountyil.govTimothy O. Schneider (15th)Main Office Phone: (312)603-6388Main Office Fax: (312) 603-6500District Phone: (847) 640-1632District Fax: (847) 640-1910Email: tim.schneider@cookcountyil.govJeffrey R. Tobolski (16th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-6384Main Office Fax: (312) 603-4744District Phone: (708) 352-2301District Fax: (708) 352-2197jeffrey.tobolski@cookcountyil.govSean M. Morrison (17th)Main Office Phone: (312) 603-4215Main Office Fax: (312) 603-2014District Phone: (708) 349-1336District Fax: (708) 349-1627Email: sean.morrison@cookcountyil.gov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:32 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:32 AM Even if imposed most people will evade the tax.They gain nothing from this, including missed business and sales tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:40 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:40 AM Lost business is exactly what they hope to gain. This isn't about collecting a tax or paying healthcare costs. It's about forcing what little firearm-related commerce exists in Cook county, out of the county Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:45 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:45 AM Done. Sent emails to everyone on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:47 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:47 AM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-toni-preckwinkle-hotel-tax-met-1110-20151109-story.html ... The bullet tax would be 5 cents per round for "centerfire ammunition" and 1 cent per bullet for "rimfire ammunition." It would raise about $320,000 a year. ... At a projected $320,000 in revenue, this tax has nothing to do with enhancing a $4,500,000,000 budget. It's 0.007% of the whole. No, it's a punitive move, combined with a desperate political attempt to show progress on gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:01 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:01 AM The people who create revenue projections for the county are shameless hacks. Their revenue projections are notorious for being off. The projections are just lies that the politicians have their cronies cook up to try to build support for their tax schemes. This is brought to you by the same people who claimed that raising the cigarette tax would not result in a black market for cigarettes, but would instead raise $10 million. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20131113/OPINION/131109803/guess-who-gets-burned-by-chicagos-cigarette-tax The fact that they keep getting away with their blatant lies is infuriating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:08 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:08 AM Sent e-mail to 17th district guy, so he knows 2 voters are against this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:24 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:24 AM If this goes into effect, gang members will start selling single cartridges on the street corners as "loosies" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:55 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 04:55 AM This is all about driving business out of cook county and "we have to do something." Anyone who chooses to take their business out of Cook County is HELPING the anti's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:02 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:02 AM IF they ever start collecting the tax, I smell a lawsuit / foia in determining the use of the funds collected and their effectiveness / cronyism use. Cost them MORE than the tax revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:09 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:09 AM I'm having a hard time finding out who my cook county rep is. I live downtown in the loop. Which one is mine? Does it even apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:19 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:19 AM Molly you would love this district map is a very pretty rectangular shape. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Documents/Cook%20County%20Board%20Commissioner%20Districts/Municipality/CB16.pdf It's the New Rectangular, kind of like "new math" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:43 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:43 AM IF they ever start collecting the tax, I smell a lawsuit . Cost them MORE than the tax revenues.they've been collecting the tax on guns now for a couple of years, and seem not to be abating that one anytime soon, and that's even more directly related to direct infringement on arms than even taxing the ammunition. this will pass and i bet some ranges will close because of it too. thanks cook county! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:43 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:43 AM I'm having a hard time finding out who my cook county rep is. I live downtown in the loop. Which one is mine? Does it even apply?It's gerrymandered, but likely Bobbie Steele II ... you lucky bassturd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:46 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:46 AM Molly you would love this district map is a very pretty rectangular shape. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Documents/Cook%20County%20Board%20Commissioner%20Districts/Municipality/CB16.pdf It's the New Rectangular, kind of like "new math"That's the new map for next election cycle ... designed to hand another district to Hispanics. That's right, they preach that race politics are wrong, then gerrymander maps to link up Hispanic communities wherever they can be found. That was a Republican district until a couple of cycles ago. Al Carr, Peraica, now D with Tobolski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:55 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 05:55 AM I'm having a hard time finding out who my cook county rep is. I live downtown in the loop.Which one is mine? Does it even apply?It's gerrymandered, but likely Bobbie Steele II ... you lucky bassturd. Looks like I'm in District 2 https://datacatalog.cookcountyil.gov/download/sg3k-5cf5/application/pdf Yup - Robert Steele http://www.cookcountyil.gov/robert-steele/ Will he let me have some Steele ammo? I would like some ammo with Steele in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:12 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:12 AM For what its worth, back in 2012, two of the commissioners were opposed to the ammunition tax: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-31/news/chi-preckwinkle-drops-bullet-tax-keeps-gun-tax-20121031_1_bullet-tax-gun-tax-budget-director-andrea-gibson * John Fritchey* Edwin Reyes Note that they were not opposed to it because they are die-hard 2A supporters, but for their own reasons. Also interesting - revenue generated by the $25 firearm tax: http://www.vocativ.com/news/220658/seattle-gun-tax/ Figures show it actually generated $490,000 [in 2013], but rose to $900,000 in 2014. The tax is expected to generate a further $950,000 by the end of 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strelok Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:31 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:31 AM The commissioner maps are so ridiculously difficult to follow that I had to use the board of elections site to look my voter info up and give me my district number. Turns out I'm district 12, which isn't even shown on this website. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Pages/CommissionerDistrictMaps.aspx It's quite literally missing district 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:37 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:37 AM Molly you would love this district map is a very pretty rectangular shape. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Documents/Cook%20County%20Board%20Commissioner%20Districts/Municipality/CB16.pdf It's the New Rectangular, kind of like "new math" I like my district http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Documents/Cook%20County%20Board%20Commissioner%20Districts/Municipality/CB6.pdf Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:39 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:39 AM If anyone wants to include a picture of the check Chicago wrote to the NRA, here it is: http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2012/12/chicagos_latest.php http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/Chicago%20Check.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:42 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:42 AM I've sent out the following e-mail to the commissioner in my district, John Fritchey. Should I send it to other ones as well, do you think?: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:41 AMTo: 'commish@fritchey.com'Subject: From a disabled veteran: I expect you'll gladly represent my interests regarding the Cook County ammunition tax. Date: November 11, 2015 To: John A. Fritchey, Cook County Commissioner Greetings: As a disabled veteran who served in combat to preserve the rights enshrined in our Constitution, I am deeply disturbed by Cook County President Toni Preckwinkle’s attempt to impose a tax on Cook County firearm owners in a specious and disingenuous attempt to penalize law-abiding citizens such as myself for our exercise of our Second Amendment rights. Not only is such a tax discriminatory against people like me who own and use firearms legally, Federal courts and courts in our own state have held that taxes that are imposed on fundamental rights such as free speech, marriage, and in this case the right to bear arms, are unconstitutional, as was adjudicated in cases such as Minneapolis Star and Tribune Co. v. Minnesota Com’r of Revenue, 460 U.S. 575 (1983) and Boynton v. Kusper, 494 N.E.2d 135 (Ill. 1986). Since I am a disabled combat veteran who understands deeply the value of unhindred exercise of those rights that I sacrificed to protect, I can say that such a proposal as put forth by President Preckwinkle is an affront to myself and every veteran that I know, and I have spoken to quite a few regarding this matter. This proposed tax does nothing to reduce firearm crimes by unlawful users, nor will any of the miniscule amounts of revenue collected benefit anyone living in the county. Rather, it will burden and cause individuals such as myself to purchase our ammunition for the exercise of our Second Amendment Rights outside of the county, if for nothing else on principle, thus depriving local businesses of sales revenue. Additionally, whatever tax revenue that might be obtained will almost certainly be consumed, along with a far greater amount of other taxpayer money, by litigation challenging this ill-advised anti-gun taxation scheme. Therefore, I consider such taxes to be a disgraceful waste of the hard-earned money that veterans such as myself earn and receive from our disability pensions. Furthermore, since I am quite active in corresponding with other veterans and helping them have their voices heard, due to my vocation, also as a matter of principle I will be devoting a significant amount of time and effort to supporting any efforts against this tax should it pass, and assisting other veterans in rallying against it in any way possible, including as participants in any litigation challenging it. I am also active as a voter and aid my fellow veterans in informing their own voting efforts, so in upcoming elections we will certainly remember and vote accordingly regarding those elected officials who represent our interests in matters such as this. Since I have worked as a journalist and researcher for many years, I am absolutely inclined to follow up on verifying who truly serves our desires and necessities as our elected officials. Thus, I expect that you will gladly represent those interests by voting emphatically AGAINST this proposed unfair, descriminatory, and unconstitutional tax on ammunition by Cook County. I would appreciate an acknowledgement and reply to this correspondence from your office, so that I can have a clear idea of what your office’s position is on this matter, so that I may make note of it for future reference. Thank your for your time and consideration on this matter, and I will look forward to the expected reply. I hope that this Veterans Day finds you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:02 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:02 AM That's a fantastic letter. I addressed my e-mail to my rep, and cc'd all the rest. And included a picture of the check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:16 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:16 AM That's a fantastic letter. I addressed my e-mail to my rep, and cc'd all the rest. And included a picture of the check Thanks, and I just sent a copy of the letter to the rest of the commissioners, as well. I didn't add the check photo in, although I was tempted to, but I think they are well aware of what it ends up costing for stupid things such as this. If only we could make those checks be paid for by the salaries of the elected officials who allow them to have to be necessary in the first place. That would curtail this kind of thing right quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadude999 Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:48 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 07:48 AM Anybody planning on speaking at the meeting? (link: https://cook-county.legistar.com/MeetingDetail.aspx?ID=443985&GUID=D10CB62F-6B91-46F3-9B97-64F9B36B1A45&Options=info&Search=).Looks like you need to send them this form if you do: http://www.cookcountyil.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Testify-Form.pdf. I want to do it myself but I have to be at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyyz Posted November 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-toni-preckwinkle-hotel-tax-met-1110-20151109-story.html ...The bullet tax would be 5 cents per round for "centerfire ammunition" and 1 cent per bullet for "rimfire ammunition." It would raise about $320,000 a year....At a projected $320,000 in revenue, this tax has nothing to do with enhancing a $4,500,000,000 budget. It's 0.007% of the whole. No, it's a punitive move, combined with a desperate political attempt to show progress on gun control.$The county could get rid of 2 or 3 highly paid do-nothing bureaucrats and save more than $320k. If the tax passes, it is only a short drive to the burbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted November 11, 2015 at 12:39 PM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 12:39 PM The commissioner maps are so ridiculously difficult to follow that I had to use the board of elections site to look my voter info up and give me my district number. Turns out I'm district 12, which isn't even shown on this website. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Pages/CommissionerDistrictMaps.aspx It's quite literally missing district 12.I had the same problem, I'm District 12 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:50 PM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:50 PM http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/Chicago%20Check.jpgAs an old Irishman I knew used to say... "Tis' a beautiful Ting!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:54 PM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:54 PM This is all about driving business out of cook county and "we have to do something."Anyone who chooses to take their business out of Cook County is HELPING the anti's.Lets be real here. Im not rich, why would I want to pay already inflated prices, on top of high taxes when I can support stores 5 miles away across the border, that dont rip off customers by charging premiums. Sure supporting a lgs is noble, but not when they see you as a walking wad of cash. Charging msrp/above msrp with high taxes is economic suicide. Either way Im "helping" the antis. Mind as well avoid giving them my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:54 PM Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 03:54 PM Molly you would love this district map is a very pretty rectangular shape. http://www.cookcountyclerk.com/aboutus/map_room/Documents/Cook%20County%20Board%20Commissioner%20Districts/Municipality/CB16.pdf It's the New Rectangular, kind of like "new math" OH. GOOD. HEAVENS! Look at that thing!! Gerrymandering in all its glory, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:56 PM Share Posted November 11, 2015 at 06:56 PM Called the person who rep's my district..............I hope. Another way to find out is to look at voter's card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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