LYU370 Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:32 AM Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:32 AM The upcoming National Defense Authorization Act that passed committee includes a plan to transfer the U.S. Army’s remaining stock of .45 ACP 1911A1 pistols to the Civilian Marksmanship Program. That would include 100,000 highly collectible handguns that predate 1945. https://www.sofmag.com/closeout-government-stock-of-wwii-m1911s-handguns-to-be-sold-off-to-the-public/
papa Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:46 AM Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:46 AM I wonder what price these will go for.
ChicagoRonin70 Posted November 10, 2015 at 07:30 AM Posted November 10, 2015 at 07:30 AM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun.
DoverGunner Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun.https://thecmp.org/fill out the paperwork and join an affiliate club ( NRA is not an affiliate) , then order them when they become available You will have to send an order form in
3ddiver Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM I just went to the CMP site and it says the National Defense Act has been vetoed. I was getting excited for a minute after I came across this thread 11/06/15 An update on the 1911’s…The National Defense Appropriations Act has been vetoed. We have no further information at this time.Thank you,Mark JohnsonChief Operating Officer
kwc Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:21 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 03:21 PM I just went to the CMP site and it says the National Defense Act has been vetoed. I was getting excited for a minute after I came across this thread 11/06/15 An update on the 1911’s… The National Defense Appropriations Act has been vetoed. We have no further information at this time. Thank you, Mark Johnson Chief Operating Officer The original NDAA was vetoed several weeks ago, but the newest version (which includes the 1911 sale provision) passed the House last week with an overwhelming majority and is expected to pass the Senate today. The President will likely sign it as well.
Xwing Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:04 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:04 PM Any idea on what they are expected to go for? Are they highly collectable, or more "mass market" pricing to be expected? Would be nice to have if sold cheaply.
abolt243 Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:20 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:20 PM Any idea on what they are expected to go for? Are they highly collectable, or more "mass market" pricing to be expected? Would be nice to have if sold cheaply.Based on the prices charged for Garands, I would expect the 1911's to be priced very much in line with each pistol's value. "Collectible" or "rare" or higher grade weapons will have a higher price tag than those that have seen service or have been rebuilt by the CMP armory and might have non-matching serial numbered parts. The CMP has a history of more than fair grades and distributing a good, serviceable weapon. If they say it'll shoot, then it'll shoot.
adjc Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:28 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:28 PM If you have a DD-214 you qualify for the CMP, and don't need an affiliated Club membership.
MagSlap Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:29 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:29 PM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun.https://thecmp.org/fill out the paperwork and join an affiliate club ( NRA is not an affiliate) , then order them when they become available You will have to send an order form in Huh? You have to be a member of a special 'club'?Do you have to know the secret squirrel handshake as well? I'm not a 1911 guy..but I'd be interested in buying one simply as a collector item.
Jeffrey Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:33 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:33 PM Will these fall under a C&R license?
IronSam Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:36 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:36 PM M1 Carbines are selling $500 and up. I imagine the 1911's to be far above that, and go quickly.
abolt243 Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:37 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:37 PM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun. https://thecmp.org/fill out the paperwork and join an affiliate club ( NRA is not an affiliate) , then order them when they become available You will have to send an order form in Huh? You have to be a member of a special 'club'?Do you have to know the secret squirrel handshake as well? I'm not a 1911 guy..but I'd be interested in buying one simply as a collector item.Did you bother to click on the CMP link? Yes, to buy from the CMP you must be registered there. To register you must be a member of an affiliated club. The ISRA is an affiliated club. Click on the link, look around, lots to be had there. Good luck.
IronSam Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:39 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:39 PM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun.https://thecmp.org/fill out the paperwork and join an affiliate club ( NRA is not an affiliate) , then order them when they become available You will have to send an order form in Huh? You have to be a member of a special 'club'?Do you have to know the secret squirrel handshake as well? I'm not a 1911 guy..but I'd be interested in buying one simply as a collector item. The CMP website has a database of affiliated clubs. Most are inexpensive to join.
abolt243 Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:39 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:39 PM Will these fall under a C&R license?The CMP is not required to deliver through an FFL. Once you're qualified and registered with them, they deliver to your door.
richp Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:40 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 04:40 PM Hi Tim, So is just being an ISRA member enough? Rich Phillips
BadWaterBill Posted November 10, 2015 at 06:41 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 06:41 PM They just announced the Senate approved the bill 91-3 so even if "HIS MAJESTY" vetos it they can easily override it. Join the ISRA now and get on the list. The one I have owned for about 50 years was made in 1913 and looks like "BEEN THERE DONE THAT" but that old gal still shoots great. Please do NOT ask how I carried one on the flight line at Gitmo.
papa Posted November 10, 2015 at 06:41 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 06:41 PM So, how does one get the opportunity to purchase one of these? I would love to have a genuine military M1911; I carried one as my sidearm for several years when I was in the Army and that pistol was a reliable tank of a gun.https://thecmp.org/ fill out the paperwork and join an affiliate club ( NRA is not an affiliate) , then order them when they become available You will have to send an order form in Huh? You have to be a member of a special 'club'? Do you have to know the secret squirrel handshake as well? I'm not a 1911 guy..but I'd be interested in buying one simply as a collector item. https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/
Marie Posted November 10, 2015 at 07:04 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 07:04 PM The ISRA is listed as being an affiliated club
Capt_Destro Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:32 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:32 PM They just announced the Senate approved the bill 91-3 so even if "HIS MAJESTY" vetos it they can easily override it. Join the ISRA now and get on the list. The one I have owned for about 50 years was made in 1913 and looks like "BEEN THERE DONE THAT" but that old gal still shoots great. Please do NOT ask how I carried one on the flight line at Gitmo.How did you carry one on the flight line at Gitmo?
abolt243 Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:42 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:42 PM Hi Tim, So is just being an ISRA member enough? Rich PhillipsYes Rich, that fulfills the membership in the affiliated club requirement. You must also send a copy of proof of some kind of safety training (hunter safety was sufficient before the FCCL was passed) and some other requirements. Not hard to do, just a couple of hoops to jump through. But, gains you access to ammo, firearms and other gear at reasonable prices. Shipped directly to your home address.
Jeffrey Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:59 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 08:59 PM Please do NOT ask how I carried one on the flight line at Gitmo.Hey Bill, Guess what? oh, nevermind
defaultdotxbe Posted November 10, 2015 at 09:12 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 09:12 PM Hi Tim, So is just being an ISRA member enough? Rich Phillips Yes Rich, that fulfills the membership in the affiliated club requirement. You must also send a copy of proof of some kind of safety training (hunter safety was sufficient before the FCCL was passed) and some other requirements. Not hard to do, just a couple of hoops to jump through. But, gains you access to ammo, firearms and other gear at reasonable prices. Shipped directly to your home address. A C&R also covers the training/firearm activity requirement Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
jamiphar Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:07 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:07 PM ....Join the ISRA now and get on the list.How does one get on the list, just by joining the ISRA?
ChicagoRonin70 Posted November 10, 2015 at 11:04 PM Posted November 10, 2015 at 11:04 PM If you have a DD-214 you qualify for the CMP, and don't need an affiliated Club membership. Well, this works for me, as well as being an ISRA member, too. I don't need or want a "collector's" piece; if I own a military-service-issue firearm like this, I'd be shooting it regularly.
capnbill Posted November 13, 2015 at 03:22 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 03:22 PM This was posted on the CMP website today: An update on the 1911 pistols. The revised NDAA has passed the House and Senate. It is on its way to the President's desk for signature. We have no further information at this time.
Capt_Destro Posted November 13, 2015 at 04:42 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 04:42 PM Any idea what the prices will be like? Odds are they will be worn out right? I'd rather buy a Tisas if they are over $400.
McCroskey Posted November 13, 2015 at 04:50 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 04:50 PM I'm assuming these have all been packed away in cosmoline for ages, unless they were used for parades or photo shoots. In which case they've probably been taken out of storage, holstered, carried around for a bit, then put away again. Or maybe on display in small local museums or at VFW halls? From what I read, a lot of the Garands they have were loan outs to VFW halls and whatnot to be used for honor guard presentations, so maybe these are similar. I'm not really a 1911 guy but I'll definitely be looking out for prices and will grab one if they're not too crazy.
milq Posted November 13, 2015 at 05:00 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 05:00 PM If they come up I'll definitely try to get one, but I'm not holding my breath. Everybody who is into 1911s and/or milsurp knows about this potential to get one. My advice is to get all your required papers ready so you can mail immediately if/when they announce that it's a go. 100k isn't that many pistols in the great scheme of things. Someone said a DD-214 waived the affiliated club requirement...incorrect. See the link for eligibility. DD-214 is one method of proving marksmanship training, club membership is still a requirement. Current Active duty service will waive the club requirement though.
BadWaterBill Posted November 13, 2015 at 05:41 PM Posted November 13, 2015 at 05:41 PM OBOZO will undoubtedly veto the bill. With a 91-3 vote in the senate the bill can be easily passed over his veto but he will say he vetoed it "FOR THE CHILDREN" and tried to keep the guns out of gang bangers hands just like he has done to keep the firearms Korea offered to return to us. When was the last time you heard of one of the inner city criminals walking down the street with a Garand hidden in their cargo pants?.
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