BadWaterBill Posted July 8, 2015 at 11:29 PM Posted July 8, 2015 at 11:29 PM Very well written sir. Thank You for a job well done
Tango7 Posted July 8, 2015 at 11:37 PM Posted July 8, 2015 at 11:37 PM Very nicely stated. <tips hat>
Mr. Fife Posted July 9, 2015 at 12:25 AM Posted July 9, 2015 at 12:25 AM Great job!Too bad it didn't format your paragraphs though.
Glock23 Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:53 AM Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:53 AM Mmmmm, soup sandwiches... Also... Good job, Chip!
Rieger Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:00 AM Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:00 AM Very well written and easy to follow...nice job Chip!
gilby Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:13 AM Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:13 AM Excellent job! Facts, well stated, totally reasonable, and impossible to refute. Thanks for taking the time.
Dr. G Posted July 9, 2015 at 08:52 AM Posted July 9, 2015 at 08:52 AM Well said and well done Chip! I saw an article the other day that listed the largest number of CCL permits by zip code. My old neighborhood 60617, has the highest number of permits in Chicago with 538 permits. This zip code also had large number of former CHA residences move in after the developments on State St. were knocked down. I am happy to see people stepping up to the plate and taking responsibility for protecting themselves. its sad when people alow themselves to be confused with anti-gun propaganda to the point where they cannot seperate in their minds the difference between having a gun for self protection, and having a gun for the purpose of threatening, harrassing and intimedating people. To some people "all guns are bad". I say, "let the Sheeple, be Sheeple". They benefit from you carrying, whether they know it or not! You clearly understand the issues, let them waller in confusion. If you ever find yourself in an active killer situation, always remember that your responsibility is to get you, and your party out safely. While I feel sorry for the other people in the situation, they had the opportunity to invest in themselves the time and resources to take the class, arm themselves, and get a permit, just like you did. if they chose not to (what we call "victim by choice"), thats on them. City police departments get paid to handle those types of situations, you are only responsible for you and yours.
vito Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:08 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:08 PM I guess I'm cynical but I doubt that this well written and logical column will change the mind of any anti. I can well imagine comments such as "if everyone carried as you do we will have blood in the streets, wild west shootouts and kids killed by accidental shootings". Anti's will say "carrying a gun is not the answer; we should ban guns so that even the gangs will not have guns" and other nonsense to justify their emotional fear and dislike of firearms. Carrying a gun is sign of a person accepting personal responsibility for their safety and the safety of their loved ones. Citizens of big cities who keep electing anti-gun Democrats believe it is the government's role to protect and provide for them, and the knowledge of individuals who take responsibility for their own defense both confuse and embarrass those who want the police to protect them because at some deep level they know that we are right and they are wrong.
C0untZer0 Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:18 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:18 PM I don’t want to use my handgun anymore than I want to use the airbag in my car. That's a great line - I'm going to use that.
BadWaterBill Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:24 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 01:24 PM Just ask any of your favorite Anti 2A friends if they have ever entered the state of Indiana? How much blood was pouring down the drains as you crossed the street? When they look at you as if you lost your mind just remind them that Indiana has been dispensing CCW cards for a $25.00 fee with NO special training required for OVER 50 years and 0 OK CORALS have occurred so far.
Xwing Posted July 9, 2015 at 02:43 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 02:43 PM Great, well-written article. Glad to see they published it! on the soup sandwich
JMontgomery Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:26 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 03:26 PM That was a very well-done letter. While some might say you're peeing into a hurricane in getting it published, I say it's worthwhile and I'll tell you why: It chips away at the mental wall some people have about guns. No single letter or discussion (argument?) short of a life-changing personal experience, will change a person's views on gun ownership in a single instance. But by influencing them subtly, you're contributing to a change of beliefs. Only after people convince themselves that there is a better way (or admit they have been wrong before), only then will they be truly pro-gun. Sometimes that takes many years. You did well, sir.
defaultdotxbe Posted July 9, 2015 at 05:56 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 05:56 PM I guess I'm cynical but I doubt that this well written and logical column will change the mind of any anti. I can well imagine comments such as "if everyone carried as you do we will have blood in the streets, wild west shootouts and kids killed by accidental shootings". Anti's will say "carrying a gun is not the answer; we should ban guns so that even the gangs will not have guns" and other nonsense to justify their emotional fear and dislike of firearms. Carrying a gun is sign of a person accepting personal responsibility for their safety and the safety of their loved ones. Citizens of big cities who keep electing anti-gun Democrats believe it is the government's role to protect and provide for them, and the knowledge of individuals who take responsibility for their own defense both confuse and embarrass those who want the police to protect them because at some deep level they know that we are right and they are wrong. ItsIts not intended to change the mind of an anti just like nothing from the antis is intended to change our minds. Its all about the middle of the road folks, whose only knowledge of firearms and gun control comes from Op-Eds like this
vito Posted July 9, 2015 at 06:27 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 06:27 PM Defaultdotxbe: Good point about middle of the roaders.
Tango7 Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM Posted July 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM I guess I'm cynical but I doubt that this well written and logical column will change the mind of any anti. I can well imagine comments such as "if everyone carried as you do we will have blood in the streets, wild west shootouts and kids killed by accidental shootings". Anti's will say "carrying a gun is not the answer; we should ban guns so that even the gangs will not have guns" and other nonsense to justify their emotional fear and dislike of firearms. Carrying a gun is sign of a person accepting personal responsibility for their safety and the safety of their loved ones. Citizens of big cities who keep electing anti-gun Democrats believe it is the government's role to protect and provide for them, and the knowledge of individuals who take responsibility for their own defense both confuse and embarrass those who want the police to protect them because at some deep level they know that we are right and they are wrong. ItsIts not intended to change the mind of an anti just like nothing from the antis is intended to change our minds. Its all about the middle of the road folks, whose only knowledge of firearms and gun control comes from Op-Eds like this Love the eidtorial titled "treading water on Illinois gun culture isn't good enough they published... all about "peaceful coexistence" and "social contract", yet implying that law abiding citizens are the ones to blame for Blood D Hoodrat offing Chuckie Crips. Supporters of concealed-carry laws essentially believe in an armed nation, but we can’t agree. A peaceful society is built on a strong social contract, not on a fear of getting shot. As I've posted elsewhere - Once a human has shown behavior that indicates enough of a threat of death or great bodily harm to another the time for discussion and identification is over, as they have shown a willingness to abandon the Rousseauian social contract that allows us to interact politely and we have now jumped into Hobbes’ natural existence. At that point all I want is the most amount of STOPITRIGHTTHEHECKNOW to the bad guy for the buck, as well as any buddies he brought with him.
Awan Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:06 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:06 PM Excellent interview this morning on 890! I caught your interview while driving down to Indy. Again, great job!
InterestedBystander Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:07 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:07 PM Chip, heard you on WLS-AM this morning...great job!
AuroraInstructor Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:16 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:16 PM awesome. I will be using the "soup sandwich" line from here on out, not to mention the airbag reference.
chip Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:20 PM Author Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:20 PM To my Illinois Carry Family,Thanks for your support and approval on my OUR message. If you heard my interview on WLS, there's a little hidden message there that only IC will get. :-)The wife was nice enough to record the interview this morning. Chip's Interview on WLS "Big John Howell Show" 10 July 2015
ming Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:42 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:42 PM Chip, great job on the interview! Thanks for the link and for the nice Top Shot Academy safety tip at the end.
barryware Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:46 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:46 PM To my Illinois Carry Family, Thanks for your support and approval on my OUR message. If you heard my interview on WLS, there's a little hidden message there that only IC will get. :-) The wife was nice enough to record the interview this morning. Chip's Interview on WLS "Big John Howell Show" 10 July 2015
BadWaterBill Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:46 PM Posted July 10, 2015 at 04:46 PM Great interview. A tip of this OLD mans hat for the excellent job your wife did on the interview. Hopefully we can get Chip and his wife to join us at one of our South side grass roots meetings in the near future
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