mctheriot Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:51 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:51 PM Hi guys, I currently have a valid IL CCL and may be moving to Minn. Once I become a Minn resident, my IL CCL is no longer valid and I will obtain a Minn CCL. What will my challenges be in getting a IL non resident permit? I already meet all requirements and training? Has anyone else with an IL CCL moved out of state and tried to get a non resident permit? Thanks for any help! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccc2003 Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:56 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:56 PM Call the ISP in springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:17 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:17 PM Hi guys, I currently have a valid IL CCL and may be moving to Minn. Once I become a Minn resident, my IL CCL is no longer valid and I will obtain a Minn CCL. What will my challenges be in getting a IL non resident permit? I already meet all requirements and training? Has anyone else with an IL CCL moved out of state and tried to get a non resident permit? Thanks for any help! MarkMinnesota is not listed SO I would say big challenges at this time. How can I find out if my state's laws are considered "substantially similar?"The Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which of them has laws that are substantially similar. Click here to find out how your state responded and if your state's laws have been determined to be substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJR Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:19 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:19 PM One would you would be able to get an out of state, since your background has already been ran and everything passed, but this is still IL., so I would do as suggested and call.Make sure you preface it with you have already passed all the checks and are just moving locations. You would think they would just take your $300 and be happy, but ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:21 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:21 PM Discussed here. Calling the ISP would be futile in this instance. They are the ones holding up the issuance using their definition of substantially similar. Contact Todd at Tvandermyd@aol.com Also there is no non-resident permit. It is the same permit issued to a non-resident.http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?vshowtopic=55084&hl=resident#entry875768 http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=54943&hl=resident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipshot Percussion Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:10 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:10 PM I brought this subject up to TV in an email a little while back, but I can only imagine how busy they are at this time of the political season, so I didn't press past the email. It would seem to me that if you have an Illinois CCL - if you move - they should just roll that into a non - resident license, no matter whether the new State has comparable training requirements, you've already completed the required training for an Illinois CCL, so why doesn't the ISP just change the address and State, you pay the extra $$$ and be done with it. It's not right that you've spent the money, done the training, paid the exhorbitant fees and then they say... "hey, you moved across the imaginary line! you are no longer qualified to carry in Illinois." How freaking stupid can you get. Stay Safe and Carry Responsibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mctheriot Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:12 PM Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:12 PM Thanks guys, I'll let you know how I make out. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJR Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:20 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:20 PM I wonder what would happen if you just put in for an address change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:36 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:36 PM Contact ISP - when they deny contact NRA and volunteer to be the aggrieved party in a lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:52 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:52 PM Lawsuit already exists. It's Culp v Madigan. I volunteered, but Culp was the stronger plaintiff. I agree with that. ISRA, NRA, SAF, etc weren't looking for all plaintiffs. If they had I would have been included. They were looking for the best plaintiffs to fill certain requirements they were looking for. Sorry mctheriot, but moving out of Illinois, unless it's to Virginia, South Carolina, New Mexico, or Hawaii, will result in the loss of your license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevis Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:10 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:10 PM Get a Utah permit, and shred the Illinois one once you leave. Then go to the Blue Door pub in St. Paul, have some cheese curds, and be glad you're no longer in this miserable state whose only contribution is more corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry 9595 Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:15 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:15 PM SB 1943 may solve your problem if passed and signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:35 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 08:35 PM Iirc, so would SB1790, HB2765, HB2766, HB3275, HB3441, HB3458, and HB3482, among others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted March 17, 2015 at 09:51 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 09:51 PM mctheriot, it has been tried on a couple of occasions and reported here on IllinoisCarry. All attempts failed and ISP has stated they won't allow it. You won't even be able to update your address since you aren't moving to one of the four approved states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bw200 Posted March 17, 2015 at 11:32 PM Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 11:32 PM Sure isn't logical. You meet our standards today but our high standards will not forgive a change of address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mctheriot Posted March 18, 2015 at 01:46 AM Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 01:46 AM Thanks for the additional info guys. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 18, 2015 at 04:08 PM Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 04:08 PM Makes sense to me. They are punishing your for leaving the state thus reducing the state's tax base. (no purple) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted March 18, 2015 at 04:48 PM Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 04:48 PM IIRC, the primary "similar" characteristic they look for in other states is their mental health reporting. So it doesn't matter that you are 100% legal and qualified in Illinois... by moving to one of the 45 states not on the "cool kids" list, if you were to have a psychotic break, or even check yourself in for some mild depression treatment, they may not be notified. Thus, they would be deprived of the opportunity to revoke your FOID and FCCL, raid your home and take away all your guns. And that's simply not acceptable to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannyH Posted March 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM will they have enough votes to override a veto because we all know that is one bill that he will never sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted March 19, 2015 at 01:44 AM Share Posted March 19, 2015 at 01:44 AM will they have enough votes to override a veto because we all know that is one bill that he will never sign I put all my eggs into Culp v Madigan. Whether the courts force Illinois to recognize 2A Rights by not violating 14A Rights, or if the mere existence of the lawsuit is enough to twist some arms, I think Culp v Madigan will push this issue through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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