mauserme Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:08 AM Author Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:08 AM Done. I forget how to see how many witness slips have been filed - any help? HB148 Witness Slips HB265 Witness Slips Done for both of them. I assume that "Record of Appearance Only" is the standard response, but what if someone does want to write something in support (or opposition) of a bill. What's the benefit or detriment to that, assuming that it's a well-reasoned and supported position? For that matter, what should be included in a written statement for a Witness Statement to make it have whatever possible validity and weight over just the Record of Appearance witness statement? I'd really like to know this, because I happen to have written for a living, and persuasive communication is right in my wheelhouse. I've had some excellent success in dealing with Federal agencies and legislators over the years, getting them to see things my way, so if I can put that to use here, I'd be glad to. I think they would accept written testimony but would probably weigh expert testimony more heavily. And, yes, "Record of Appearance Only" is commonly the appropriate response.
mauserme Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:08 AM Author Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:08 AM As a reminder, we ask our members to indicate that they represent only themselves when completing witness slips. I notice a few indicating representation of various groups, including Illinois Carry. Our feeling is that your voice as an individual resident of the state is much stronger than as an unofficial representative of a group.
Tango7 Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:15 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:15 AM Hit negative on both. 56 against on the first, 52 against on the 2nd.
jaystrm Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:59 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 12:59 AM both complete. that was easy
kevinmcc Posted February 13, 2015 at 01:13 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 01:13 AM Edited to add a reminder that we ask our members to indicate they represent only themselves when completing witness slips. Our feeling is that your voice as an individual resident of the state is much stronger than as an unofficial representative of a group. I agree with this whole heatedly. Makes it more difficult for them so put an often contemptuous reason as to why a person placed a wittiness slip in. And done.
JoeM Posted February 13, 2015 at 01:14 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 01:14 AM Done. HB265 - 61 opponents, 0 proponents HB148 - 65 opponents, 0 proponents
ChicagoRonin70 Posted February 13, 2015 at 04:43 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 04:43 AM Done. I forget how to see how many witness slips have been filed - any help? HB148 Witness Slips HB265 Witness Slips Done for both of them. I assume that "Record of Appearance Only" is the standard response, but what if someone does want to write something in support (or opposition) of a bill. What's the benefit or detriment to that, assuming that it's a well-reasoned and supported position? For that matter, what should be included in a written statement for a Witness Statement to make it have whatever possible validity and weight over just the Record of Appearance witness statement? I'd really like to know this, because I happen to have written for a living, and persuasive communication is right in my wheelhouse. I've had some excellent success in dealing with Federal agencies and legislators over the years, getting them to see things my way, so if I can put that to use here, I'd be glad to. I think they would accept written testimony but would probably weigh expert testimony more heavily. And, yes, "Record of Appearance Only" is commonly the appropriate response. That's good to know, although I think that heavily supported arguments with citations would also do something of the trick, as well. Research is another of my bailiwicks, so for the right one, I think I might be inclined to send them something along those lines at some point. I'll have to look at which ones in the future are going through the system and maybe come up with some stuff preemptorily to submit the next time. Incidentally, I noticed the count is 101 and 95 against for 148 and 265 respectively, with no proponents whatsoever for either. I wonder how much weight these witness slips actually have in the actual practice of swaying a vote. What's the policy on that? Say, if there is no support for but that many, or even more against, will it actually prevent the bill from advancing or anything?
DoverGunner Posted February 13, 2015 at 04:49 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 04:49 AM That's good to know, although I think that heavily supported arguments with citations would also do something of the trick, as well. Research is another of my bailiwicks, so for the right one, I think I might be inclined to send them something along those lines at some point. I'll have to look at which ones in the future are going through the system and maybe come up with some stuff preemptorily to submit the next time. Incidentally, I noticed the count is 101 and 95 against for 148 and 265 respectively, with no proponents whatsoever for either. I wonder how much weight these witness slips actually have in the actual practice of swaying a vote. What's the policy on that? Say, if there is no support for but that many, or even more against, will it actually prevent the bill from advancing or anything? This has been asked many times before with no definite answer . No one knows if they even look at it for sureJust the same I fill them out
DjachDjach Posted February 13, 2015 at 05:57 AM Posted February 13, 2015 at 05:57 AM Both slips completed.
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