Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:15 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:15 PM Well..surprise the Tribune actually came out and endorsed Rauner over Governor Jello. The editorial is here.
McCroskey Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:19 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:19 PM I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.
singlecoilpickup Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:31 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:31 PM Interesting that they put this story behind the paywall.
narcoden Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:36 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:36 PM For some reason, if you google the title of any trib story, google gets around the pay wall:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-illinois-governor-quinn-rauner-endorse-edit-20141010-story.html#page=1
TRJ Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:43 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:43 PM As does the Flipboard app on my tablet.
Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:46 PM Author Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:46 PM Interesting that they put this story behind the paywall. Just curiously....does anyone remember newspapers being free when you went to the newsstand or got home delivery?? I certainly don't...given that we are quickly getting to the point where most of us get the majority of our news, etc from the internet why do people have such an irrational aversion to having to pay for it. Personally, I read the New York Times, Wall St. Journal, Washington Post, and the International Herald Tribune daily....and the Chicago Tribune every once in a while. I went back and looked and I spend around $900/year for all of the subscriptions....which works out to $75/month...which when you consider that you would spend $40/month for a home delivery subscription to the Chicago Tribune for home delivery in Cook County isn't much. I view it as an investment in being current with what is happening in the world that we live in. The choice of news products reflects the sources of influence in policy and the world around us and represent both a conservative and liberal perspective on the world. It becomes a personal choice to select sources of information, but there certainly is a need to be informed to understand the increasingly complicated world we live in.
singlecoilpickup Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:54 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:54 PM I'm not necessarily making a statement about whether or not news should be free, and I'm not terribly interested in debating revenue generation models for news sources. My point is just that it's interesting which articles the Tribune decides are "free" and which ones are "paid." You could argue that an endorsement is much less newsworthy than say the story about the city exploiting the red light camera system yet the former is paid and the latter is free. I'm questioning motives, not complaining about price.
Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:59 PM Author Posted October 10, 2014 at 07:59 PM I'm not necessarily making a statement about whether or not news should be free, and I'm not terribly interested in debating revenue generation models for news sources. My point is just that it's interesting which articles the Tribune decides are "free" and which ones are "paid." You could argue that an endorsement is much less newsworthy than say the story about the city exploiting the red light camera system yet the former is paid and the latter is free. I'm questioning motives, not complaining about price.I understand....and I happen to agree to a point....the question becomes what has happened to the influence of newspaper political endorsements.....I would argue that the endorsements in the New York Times and Washington Post still carry significant influence....perhaps LA Times as well.....personally I am not going to take the judgment of Alex Jones, Breitbart, et al as my sole view of the work
mrmagloo Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:02 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:02 PM I just hate the fact that they entice you with headlines they put out there all over the place, only to find that they block it with a subscription offer when you arrive. Wouldn't be so bad if they let you read the one article after opting out, but to block it is over the top. If you don't want to share the news to non-members, don't be spamming it. Pretty crappy strategy if you ask me.
singlecoilpickup Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:09 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:09 PM I understand....and I happen to agree to a point....the question becomes what has happened to the influence of newspaper political endorsements.....I would argue that the endorsements in the New York Times and Washington Post still carry significant influence....perhaps LA Times as well.....personally I am not going to take the judgment of Alex Jones, Breitbart, et al as my sole view of the work Right, which is why this is kind of a head-scratcher. You'd think that if they wanted this to be an important and resounding announcement, this would be one of the articles for which they don't implement the paywall. This is essentially an advertisement for Rauner, so it seems like they should want that advertisement to reach as many people as possible.
Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:12 PM Author Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:12 PM I understand....and I happen to agree to a point....the question becomes what has happened to the influence of newspaper political endorsements.....I would argue that the endorsements in the New York Times and Washington Post still carry significant influence....perhaps LA Times as well.....personally I am not going to take the judgment of Alex Jones, Breitbart, et al as my sole view of the work Right, which is why this is kind of a head-scratcher. You'd think that if they wanted this to be an important and resounding announcement, this would be one of the articles for which they don't implement the paywall. This is essentially an advertisement for Rauner, so it seems like they should want that advertisement to reach as many people as possible. I completely agree with you...it ought be on the front page of the paper...at least they reached the right decision...and I bet the SunTimes sees it differently.
singlecoilpickup Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:17 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:17 PM Maybe the SunTimes will endorse Grimm.
Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:27 PM Author Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:27 PM Maybe the SunTimes will endorse Grimm.Maybe Karen Lewis will grow wings and learn to fly.
TRJ Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:30 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 08:30 PM Maybe the SunTimes will endorse Grimm. Maybe Karen Lewis will grow wings and learn to fly.I could feed her some cabbage and balsamic vinegar that would assist with propulsion.
Lou Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:17 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:17 PM This almost (but not quite) makes up for the Tribune endorsing Obama not once but twice.
Tompo Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:19 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:19 PM The Tribune editorial board has been "conservative" for some years now.
Xwing Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:24 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:24 PM Just curiously....does anyone remember newspapers being free when you went to the newsstand or got home delivery?? I will never pay just for digital content. There is too much out there for free to ever pay. (I go to foxnews for most of my news, and it remains free.) When you got the paper in person, you got an actual physical good. Back to the original topic. Glad to hear the Trib did something right. They are pretty liberal, but not nearly as bleeding-heart as the Scum-Times.
Elmer Fudd Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:26 PM Author Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:26 PM Just curiously....does anyone remember newspapers being free when you went to the newsstand or got home delivery??I will never pay just for digital content. There is too much out there for free to ever pay. (I go to foxnews for most of my news, and it remains free.) When you got the paper in person, you got an actual physical good. Back to the original topic. Glad to hear the Trib did something right. They are pretty liberal, but not nearly as bleeding-heart as the Scum-Times. Just curiously.....if you read a book off of a Kindle vs. a paper copy is there any difference in the product?
narcoden Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:36 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:36 PM Did the trib endorse Potato head last go around? If so, they really slammed him in this article... edit: nope, they didn't...http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-10-10/opinion/ct-edit-governor-1010-20101010_1_pat-quinn-democrat-quinn-bill-brady So people don't really care who the trib endorses...
RoadyRunner Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:46 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 09:46 PM Other major endorsements today for Rauner: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/10/4222202/3-major-newspapers-endorse-rauner.html
spanishjames Posted October 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 10:31 PM The chickens are coming home to roost. The state is sinking, and someone has to make the tough cuts to bring it afloat. I believe the powers that be will allow this fake Republican into the governor's mansion, in order to make the necessary cuts in spending. Then after four or eight years, they'll point their fingers at the big, bad, mean, rich Republican who took the food out of poor kids' mouths, and cut the workin man's pension. Then it'll be the Dems' turn again. And round and round we go.
Lou Posted October 10, 2014 at 11:50 PM Posted October 10, 2014 at 11:50 PM The Tribune editorial board has been "conservative" for some years now.They endorsed Obama - TWICE. What planet do you live on or are you so blinded by your liberal bias that you refuse to address reality?
glen Posted October 11, 2014 at 12:14 AM Posted October 11, 2014 at 12:14 AM That's governor Potato Head What a looser. I hope
Tompo Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:33 AM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:33 AM The Tribune editorial board has been "conservative" for some years now.They endorsed Obama - TWICE. What planet do you live on or are you so blinded by your liberal bias that you refuse to address reality?Maybe you haven't noticed but there are more races than just presidential. If you check you'll find that the Tribune editorial board is quite conservative.Are you blinded by your conservative bias?
Tompo Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:38 AM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:38 AM The Tribune editorial board has been "conservative" for some years now.They endorsed Obama - TWICE. What planet do you live on or are you so blinded by your liberal bias that you refuse to address reality? By the way, if you had your facts correct, you'd know that by endorsing Obama, it was the first time the Tribune endorsed a democrat for president in 160 years.
Xwing Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:19 PM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:19 PM Maybe you haven't noticed but there are more races than just presidential. If you check you'll find that the Tribune editorial board is quite conservative. Next, he'll be calling CNN conservative. The Libune is quite liberal, and anyone who ever endorsed that Marxist Comrade Obama is very liberal. He is the most left-wing president in history. No-one with any conservative thoughts would ever agree with this commie. The mainstream media is completely controlled by the left-wing, and it shows in their coverage again and again. The only exception is Fox News. Just curiously.....if you read a book off of a Kindle vs. a paper copy is there any difference in the product?Yes. A paper copy looks nice on my bookshelf, can be read anywhere without worrying about running out of batteries, doesn't make me buy a Kindle (which I don't have), and I'll still read the paper copy again 20-30 years from now (when the Kindle format has been supplanted by something else and is obsolete.) I buy a lot of books, and I always go to half-price books and buy real ones. They're also cheaper than the Kindle version for most, which is a nice bonus.
Tompo Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:21 PM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:21 PM Maybe you haven't noticed but there are more races than just presidential. If you check you'll find that the Tribune editorial board is quite conservative. Next, he'll be calling CNN conservative. The Libune is quite liberal, and anyone who ever endorsed that Marxist Comrade Obama is very liberal. He is the most left-wing president in history. No-one with any conservative thoughts would ever agree with this commie. The mainstream media is completely controlled by the left-wing, and it shows in their coverage again and again. The only exception is Fox News. Just curiously.....if you read a book off of a Kindle vs. a paper copy is there any difference in the product?Yes. A paper copy gets to sit on my bookshelf, can be read anywhere without worrying about running out of batteries, doesn't make me buy a Kindle (which I don't have), and I'll still read the paper copy again 20-30 years from now (when the Kindle format has been supplanted by something else and is obsolete.) Another guy who doesn't have his facts right. Look it up. The first time the Chicago Tribune endorsed a democrat for president--in over 160 years--was when they endorsed Obama. I guess endorsing ONE democrat for president in 160 is "liberal". lol
C0untZer0 Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:43 PM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:43 PM I just hate the fact that they entice you with headlines they put out there all over the place, only to find that they block it with a subscription offer when you arrive. Wouldn't be so bad if they let you read the one article after opting out, but to block it is over the top. Isn't that what the corner news shops used to do? They'd have a barker stand with a copy of the news paper and shout "Extra Extra Read All About It"
RoadyRunner Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:50 PM Posted October 11, 2014 at 01:50 PM I think the reason the Tribune endorsed Obama was not so much support for Obama - but opposition to the alternative. Issues and matters of importance were different then.
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