When Pigs Fly and Pat Quinn Is Reelected Thank Those Voting for Grimm

[Elmer Fudd]

Well.....it is starting to look like the impossible is going to happen. The latest polls are showing that Pat Quinn has pulled out to a four point lead over Bruce Rauner http://capitolfax.com/2014/10/07/poll-quinn-over-rauner-44-40/. The devil in the details is that Libertarian candidate Chad Grimm is pulling about six percent.....it should be heart warming to all of the Grimm supporters to see that even on a cold day in Miami [my favorite word not being available]....Grimm would never have a serious chance of winning the election for Governor. However, the six percent that vote for him could very well be the deciding factor that gives us four more years of Pat Quinn......yes I am heaping disdain, disgust and scorn that those that are supporting Grimm out of principle....in this case the principle being that they are knowingly undertaking an action that will give us four more years of Gov. Jello.

 

Just something to think about...when Kotowski and Quinn reintroduce an assault weapons ban and magazine capacity limits in Springfield after the election each of us will know exactly who to thank.

[karim18]

... Almost anyone who votes Libertarian, would squarely be in the camp of NOT voting republican. The very CONCEPT of Libertarianism is NOT voting for "The lesser of two evils"

 

Having said that.... Quinn is an ineffective governor and hopefully should be on his way to prison between 2-3 years from election day (based on how it went for the previous governor )... who's the Lt Gov going to be?

[Bud]

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

[Archer2]

"Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive."

William F. Buckley, Jr.

 

I am a firm supporter of Libertarianism and completely understand the reluctance to not give support to the candidate with whom I most identify. I'm going to do just that in this election, I hope compromising my principles will help to avoid the greater harm.

[Elmer Fudd]

... Almost anyone who votes Libertarian, would squarely be in the camp of NOT voting republican. The very CONCEPT of Libertarianism is NOT voting for "The lesser of two evils"

 

Having said that.... Quinn is an ineffective governor and hopefully should be on his way to prison between 2-3 years from election day (based on how it went for the previous governor )... who's the Lt Gov going to be?

There is a great reminder in the world of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd...are you with us or against us...and a vote for Grimm is a vote against Rauner...which will give us four more years of Gov. Jello...just food for thought.

[Googe1227]

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

 

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

And then Barry can have his turn as mayor of chicago!

[Elmer Fudd]

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

Its frightening but all of the above actually COULD happen....actually it is much more likely than a GOP candidate winning the White House again in any of our lifetimes if the party doesn't get away from its more extremist positions on social issues.

[Xwing]

... Almost anyone who votes Libertarian, would squarely be in the camp of NOT voting republican. The very CONCEPT of Libertarianism is NOT voting for "The lesser of two evils"

I certainly understand the principle. But I think when ideals conflict with reality, one needs to be pragmatic. Quinn will raise the income tax again, even more, and will do everything in his power to further restrict and obstruct all 2nd amendment rights. Rauner will do neither of these things, and will work toward weakening the public sector unions which are bankrupting the state. IMO, the choice for anyone who values either their freedom or their money is clear in this case.

[Scootaloo]

Six percent is still pretty sizeable. There will never be any change if people only vote for a candidate who has a good chance of winning. But even if Quinn wins people will see a six percent vote go to Grimm, and maybe next time people will feel a little better about voting for a candidate they want to win rather than voting to keep someone else out. It has to start somewhere.

[TRJ]

The last election was won by Quinn with the cook county vote. The rest of the state went to Brady. Six percent would have given Brady a win by five plus percent.

[TyGuy]

[Bud]

 

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

Its frightening but all of the above actually COULD happen....actually it is much more likely than a GOP candidate winning the White House again in any of our lifetimes if the party doesn't get away from its more extremist positions on social issues.

 

That always breaks me up!

 

What exactly are the "extremist" views held by the Republican Party?

 

Oh, wait! I know, they are the very same ones that make them different than the Democratic Party, right?

 

So basically you are supporting the "One Party System" of government, correct?

 

Visited Cuba lately? How about Venezuela, China, or as a matter of fact, the new Democratic Russia also known as "All Putin, all the Time"

[CNE1001]

I remember living in Chicago, they would plow the streets in winter only during the election cycle. People could not get enough of it, they quickly forget about all the other years they didn't plow.

 

People have and will always vote against their self interests.

[TRJ]

I remember living in Chicago, they would plow the streets in winter only during the election cycle. People could not get enough of it, they quickly forget about all the other years they didn't plow.

 

People have and will always vote against their self interests.

The snow thing was a lesson learned by Bilandic. Byrne won with the help of three feet of snow the city couldn't remove fast enough.

[3ddiver]

When Rauner won the Republican nomination I was pretty much decided that I was going to leave the governor box empty for the first time since I could vote. He is not my choice and I thought Quinn would win anyway. As time has gone on, I have softened and Rauner isn't as bad as I originally thought. Still not who I would like to see but WAY better chance that he will be better than Quinn. I will be voting for Rauner in November hoping to close that polling gap.

[Tango7]

 

Illinois deserves another four years of Quinn and hopefully, Emmanuel will be re-elected as Mayor of Chicago so he can be the next Governor in four years thus setting him up to run for President after Hillary finishes her two terms as President

 

Its frightening but all of the above actually COULD happen....actually it is much more likely than a GOP candidate winning the White House again in any of our lifetimes if the party doesn't get away from its more extremist positions on social issues.

Funny... There are those who say of the distaste many have for the party is due to is apparent abandonment of what used to be considered it's core values in favor of a "Democrat lite" posture.

[gregivq]

I had (still have) hopes but what can one expect when people here are taught to vote D and plaster 'Ready for Hillary' stickers?! Only thing you can do is keep your money and leave.

[CILhunter]

... Almost anyone who votes Libertarian, would squarely be in the camp of NOT voting republican. The very CONCEPT of Libertarianism is NOT voting for "The lesser of two evils"

 

Having said that.... Quinn is an ineffective governor and hopefully should be on his way to prison between 2-3 years from election day (based on how it went for the previous governor )... who's the Lt Gov going to be?

Paul Vallas, who did such a bang-up job running the Chicago Public School system, that we definitely want him in charge of the People's Republic of Illinois. CPS has NOOOO problems whatsoever.

[CILhunter]

Six percent is still pretty sizeable. There will never be any change if people only vote for a candidate who has a good chance of winning. But even if Quinn wins people will see a six percent vote go to Grimm, and maybe next time people will feel a little better about voting for a candidate they want to win rather than voting to keep someone else out. It has to start somewhere.

Yeah. Maybe next time they'll pull 10-12%. I'm sure Governor Rahm will appreciate that in 2018. I support most Libertarian principals. In fact I find myself getting more Libertarian as I age, but the FACT still remains that both now and for the foreseeable future, a vote for the Libertarian candidate is actually a vote for the Democrat.

[wtr100]

Voting libertarian is seldom an intelligent thing to do.

[mostholycerebus]

Libertarian candidates are usually a direct result of the Republican party pushing RINO candidates that are 'at least better than the D option'. Libertarians reject the notion that a R passing an AWB is better than a D passing an AWB, etc, etc.

[Elmer Fudd]

Libertarian candidates are usually a direct result of the Republican party pushing RINO candidates that are 'at least better than the D option'. Libertarians reject the notion that a R passing an AWB is better than a D passing an AWB, etc, etc.

They still need to be electable and anything that puts Quinn back in for four more years is an anathema

[tkroenlein]

Instead of blaming the people who refuse to vote for someone who they feel is inadequate, I choose to blame those who continue to vote for candidates who they know are inadequate.

 

10% of the popular vote nationally will legitimize a party. That new party will not be legally barred from challenging the DNC for voter fraud, like the RNC.

[Elmer Fudd]

Label it any way you want...anything that forces the continuation of climate of incompetence, corruption and treachery at the hands, of Quinn, Kotowski and Dart is likely to be more harmful than ebola.

[singlecoilpickup]

Despite preferring the Libertarian Party, I think there's nothing more important this election cycle than getting Quinn out of office, at least as far as Illinois is concerned. That being the case, I'll vote Rauner because I know the tides of change (in terms of the two party dichotomy) aren't going to come sweeping in within the next ~1 month.

[sdf4]

What are your goals for the state of Illinois candidate Grimm. Well my goals are to blah blah blah during the day and hunt for monsters who threaten our very way of life at night. I love that show Grimm.

[GTX63]

What exactly are the extremist social issues that you speak of Elmer? The ones my parents and their parents held? Are principals and values extreme if they last more than a generation?

[GTX63]

Cook county is in sore need of redistricting.

[Elmer Fudd]

What exactly are the extremist social issues that you speak of Elmer? The ones my parents and their parents held? Are principals and values extreme if they last more than a generation?

The positions on abortion as expressed by Richard Mourdock and Todd Aiken in Senate races made them totally unelectable and the same would seem to hold true on a national level. It is clear that same sex marriage is going to become the law of the land...SCOTUS seems to have made that very clear. The same can be extended to bans on stem cell research, legalization of cannabis, to a certain extent immigration and a number of other social policy issues that ought not be relevant to the governance of the country.

 

There are enough substantive issues which relate to the economy, foreign policy, and other areas where the GOP platform contains real differences with the Democrats where there will be real impact and a difference could be made. By refusing to abandon positions on social issues the GOP is making its candidates unelectable on a national basis, and the consequences are quickly becoming self evident.

[BIGDEESUL]

Extremist views that marriage is between a man and a woman. That people should go to church. Views that murdering an unborn child should be illegal.

 

You know, those American views that have recently been flushed down the toilet by the extremist liberals brainwashing people that these all American views are bad.

 

Those?

 

Not very extreme. I call it American.

 

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