howie Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:27 PM Share Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:27 PM This is the text of an E-mail I got from my pro-gun rep regarding the JCAR meeting held a couple days ago... In follow-up to the voice-mail I just left, I wanted to send you what I know so far. The consensus of JCAR on Tuesday was that JCAR agrees with the instructors that the instructors should not have to be the record-keepers indefinitely. Currently, it is ISP's position that ISP does not have the infrastructure in place to be the record-keepers either. JCAR requested that ISP be ready to take over those duties in six months and ISP is looking into that proposal. I'll let you know as soon as I know more on this. Thanks again, Steve. If anyone knows more (he's not a JCAR member) , please post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:51 PM Share Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:51 PM That is the same report I received. Also note the requirement for shots to be inside the 7 ring did not make it into the rules. We won on that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:52 PM Share Posted August 14, 2014 at 11:52 PM It hasn't been easy but so far we've been able to hold them to the statute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted August 15, 2014 at 01:30 AM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 01:30 AM That is the same report I received. Also note the requirement for shots to be inside the 7 ring did not make it into the rules. We won on that too.You rock, V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted August 15, 2014 at 05:32 AM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 05:32 AM Currently, it is ISP's position that ISP does not have the infrastructure in place to be the record-keepers either.They say that like that makes it someone else's problem. The state chose this regulatory scheme, they bear the burden of implementing it. The regulatory burden is completely under their own control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgmeyer Posted August 15, 2014 at 01:50 PM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 01:50 PM Currently, it is ISP's position that ISP does not have the infrastructure in place to be the record-keepers either.They say that like that makes it someone else's problem. The state chose this regulatory scheme, they bear the burden of implementing it. The regulatory burden is completely under their own control. Not only did the State create this Dung Heap of an Act, but they liberally funded it. They can buy/build the infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Johnson Posted August 15, 2014 at 08:01 PM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 08:01 PM Currently, it is ISP's position that ISP does not have the infrastructure in place to be the record-keepers either. They say that like that makes it someone else's problem.The state chose this regulatory scheme, they bear the burden of implementing it. The regulatory burden is completely under their own control.Not only did the State create this Dung Heap of an Act, but they liberally funded it. They can buy/build the infrastructure.I agree completely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Posted August 15, 2014 at 08:30 PM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 08:30 PM They need to resolve both the privacy act concerns of keeping a copy of the DD Form 214 but the out and out Federal law violation of copying a military ID. They have known that it is against the law to copy military ID since the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paints-n-cows Posted August 15, 2014 at 09:31 PM Share Posted August 15, 2014 at 09:31 PM Let's do the math....80,000 permits at $150 a copy equals $12,000,000 and then if only 75% of them did electronic fingerprints....60,000 at $31.50 fee equals $1,890,000. So almost $14,000,000 and they can't buy a 1 gigabyte hard drive for storage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezer Posted August 16, 2014 at 03:56 AM Share Posted August 16, 2014 at 03:56 AM Let's do the math....80,000 permits at $150 a copy equals $12,000,000 and then if only 75% of them did electronic fingerprints....60,000 at $31.50 fee equals $1,890,000. So almost $14,000,000 and they can't buy a 1 gigabyte hard drive for storage? The way some of the agencies handle funds for computers it just might cost that much. A nearby community needed to purchase a "special type of computer" (their words - honest) to be able to access the internet in order to respond to any law enforcement objections to CCL objections. I guess they had never been to the Best Buy in their city since the proposed cost was around $10,000!!!! It makes you really wonder what kind of mental giants run their purchase departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljnowel Posted August 16, 2014 at 06:41 AM Share Posted August 16, 2014 at 06:41 AM Let's do the math....80,000 permits at $150 a copy equals $12,000,000 and then if only 75% of them did electronic fingerprints....60,000 at $31.50 fee equals $1,890,000. So almost $14,000,000 and they can't buy a 1 gigabyte hard drive for storage?The way some of the agencies handle funds for computers it just might cost that much. A nearby community needed to purchase a "special type of computer" (their words - honest) to be able to access the internet in order to respond to any law enforcement objections to CCL objections. I guess they had never been to the Best Buy in their city since the proposed cost was around $10,000!!!! It makes you really wonder what kind of mental giants run their purchase departments.easy 500 dollar computer, 9500 in some pockets, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double-J Posted August 17, 2014 at 11:59 PM Share Posted August 17, 2014 at 11:59 PM ljnowel, you took the words right out of my ... keyboard ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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