jkdkaliman101 Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:54 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:54 AM Unbelievable. ... http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/2014/03/10/westmont-village-board-passes-ordinances-explains-concealed-carry-law/ad7cxd8/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:56 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:56 AM Something else for Todd to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerxx Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:58 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:58 AM I think I'm dumber for reading that.....smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:59 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:59 AM Apparently the phrase "reading is fundamental" doesn't apply at all to the Westmont Village Board. Just read the law, idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:00 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:00 AM Nothing really to see here. All the places discussed in the article are already banned under the FCCA. Only concern I have is the application of parking lots. Does Westmont want to create Illinois' next multi-millionaire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlin Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:01 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:01 AM So they basically banned concealed carry where it is already banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:10 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:10 AM So they basically banned concealed carry where it is already banned. But... But they had to do something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:14 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:14 AM I know how toast works.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:19 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:19 AM So they basically banned concealed carry where it is already banned. But... But they had to do something!Did they miss the part of the FCCA that covers preemption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:23 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:23 AM Free money! Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspgundog Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:23 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:23 AM Sounds like they are including parking lots, and taking away the carve out for people that have to walk through a street fair to get home. Dont know if it would be better for the state to explain the law to them of if it should be done after they are forced to spend some big bucks on a lawyer trying to defend this BS as within the State CCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googe1227 Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:27 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:27 AM Wow. Stupid is as stupid does. So sayeth Forrest's mama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Logic Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:29 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 03:29 AM I can't believe the amount of stupidity people are rising to in the case of conceal carry. If they put half as much energy into having meetings and spending more on stopping crime and not law abiding citizens from carrying they would be surprised of the results they would get........ Not to mention the preemptions mentioned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted March 18, 2014 at 04:19 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 04:19 AM I still don't get why I see article after article making a reference to this "new law" (FCCL) taking effect on JAN 1 (2014). The "new law" went into effect on JULY 9, 2013 This article makes that same exact mistake :headbang1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted March 18, 2014 at 04:30 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 04:30 AM I can't believe the amount of stupidity people are rising to in the case of conceal carry. If they put half as much energy into having meetings and spending more on stopping crime and not law abiding citizens from carrying they would be surprised of the results they would get........ Not to mention the preemptions mentioned! Not to mention the fact that somehow the scientific method doesn't apply when the circumstances include politics and guns... because all those other states were anomalies.... this time, the CCW holders will be more violent than the general population... or have a higher rate of criminality...or get drunk more often.... because we're different here in Minnesota Ohio Kansas Missouri Wisconsin Illinois... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted March 18, 2014 at 05:11 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 05:11 AM So they basically banned concealed carry where it is already banned. But... But they had to do something!It's for the children! Why do you hate children Tango7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk067 Posted March 18, 2014 at 05:16 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 05:16 AM Who wants to take a trip to Westmont with me tomorrow and become wealthy poster boys for the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:16 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:16 AM No wonder my sister moved away from Westmont. I haven't been there in ages. Looks like they are perfecting the art of wasting time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karim18 Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM "Afterward, representatives from the Westmont police and fire departments outlined the parameters of the concealed carry regulations." So you mean to tell me, they actually pulled in police and fire department staff to read this to them? Also....Fire department, are you kidding me? Perhaps they should next have the janitorial staff come in to explain changes to EPA regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:30 AM I did not reads the actual ordinance but since all those areas mentioned are already banned under 21-6 and are already banned to FCCL for carrying, I don't see how it changes anything other than maybe to allow for a lesser penalty for an infraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:48 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:48 AM I did not reads the actual ordinance but since all those areas mentioned are already banned under 21-6 and are already banned to FCCL for carrying, I don't see how it changes anything other than maybe to allow for a lesser penalty for an infraction. But the FCCA states that the punishment to a CCL holder is only those provided for in the FCCA. How would a local ordinance come into play for a CCL when preempted? The argument that you're acting outside of your license could warrant other charges appears to be bunk, if you're operating within the terms of your license there can never be any charges under the FCCA. The penalty provisions are intended just for those times you may be in violation of your restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM Look at their water tower, "The Progressive Village". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karim18 Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM Look at their water tower, "The Progressive Village". LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 12:52 PM Oh yeah, Westmont...I think I drove through there once on the way to Oak Park... http://autumn-sunshine.net/poems/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fairy-princess-by-castle-riding-unicorn-Copy1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjachDjach Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:02 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:02 PM Welcome to the town of Westmont... CCL Holders not welcome, but criminals and n'er-do-well's, come right in...! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsxdm Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:12 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:12 PM I did not reads the actual ordinance but since all those areas mentioned are already banned under 21-6 and are already banned to FCCL for carrying, I don't see how it changes anything other than maybe to allow for a lesser penalty for an infraction. The way I read it they took away the parking lot (car) safe haven so you can not even store your defensive firearm in your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:17 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:17 PM You mean they want to take it away. The claw is clear that they can not affect any pistol laws. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:25 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:25 PM You mean they want to take it away. The claw is clear that they can not affect any pistol laws. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. And believe me, you DON'T want to mess with THE CLAW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianj - now in Kansas Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:41 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 01:41 PM Read a little closer. If this is accurate “No [resident, visitor or] workplace staff member may wear, carry, store, transport, or otherwise possess a weapon at any time in or on village property or while performing any duties for or on behalf of the village.” then they've already stepped in another pile of stinky stuff. Transport's been defined by the legislature and by case law. If they try to go after someone transporting, then they are gonna have real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rat Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:02 PM Share Posted March 18, 2014 at 02:02 PM I've never actually heard of Westmont, but by this article I'm assuming they don't have any village attorneys on retainer, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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