Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:20 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:20 PM i just checked my ccl status, and i went under board review today. i immediately called isp and they said i had an objection from a local law enforcement agency, i have no idea what this could be for... what are my next steps? And i thought that leo agencies had 30 days to object, and this is my 84th day? i live in cook county, may i have been "DARTED"?I just received my 5th letter from them saying they need another 30 days. You're in for a long wait. As we all are that are under board review what are the reasons i could have been objected, i have no clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:40 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:40 PM what are the reasons i could have been objected, i have no clue? Living in Cook County, it could be any number of things. I've seen people receive objections for a fight they got into in high school, old misdemeanor arrests that never went anywhere, simply being picked up and taken to the station, but no arrest or charges... even people who only had contact cards written in their name. Basically, anything whatsoever related to any contact at all with law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:58 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 08:58 PM (edited) wow i was never involved in a fight, i did get a ticket for public urination by CPD ( against a dumpster in an alley ) over 2 years ago, i was helping my girl friends mom out at her job and accidentally hit the silent alarm about 3 years about with having to explain that to the police... and i once was arrested by CPD for not having my drivers license with me while i was in HS, but idk if it was an arrest because my friend followed the police to the station in my truck and i was released. but idk how this could affect anything? Edited May 16, 2016 at 08:59 PM by Chi-Town-Raised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:04 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:04 PM wow i was never involved in a fight, i did get a ticket for public urination by CPD ( against a dumpster in an alley ) over 2 years ago, i was helping my girl friends mom out at her job and accidentally hit the silent alarm about 3 years about with having to explain that to the police... and i once was arrested by CPD for not having my drivers license with me while i was in HS, but idk if it was an arrest because my friend followed the police to the station in my truck and i was released. but idk how this could affect anything? Correct, none of that means anything to reasonable, intelligent adults. However, you live in Cook County, and Sheriff Dart uses any possible excuse to object to CCL applications, which is the primary reason the board is close to a year behind at the moment. The board will likely reverse your objection, but it is going to take a while before that happens. Like maybe you'll get your CCL as a Christmas present, if you're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:13 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:13 PM (edited) wow i was never involved in a fight, i did get a ticket for public urination by CPD ( against a dumpster in an alley ) over 2 years ago, i was helping my girl friends mom out at her job and accidentally hit the silent alarm about 3 years about with having to explain that to the police... and i once was arrested by CPD for not having my drivers license with me while i was in HS, but idk if it was an arrest because my friend followed the police to the station in my truck and i was released. but idk how this could affect anything? Correct, none of that means anything to reasonable, intelligent adults. However, you live in Cook County, and Sheriff Dart uses any possible excuse to object to CCL applications, which is the primary reason the board is close to a year behind at the moment. The board will likely reverse your objection, but it is going to take a while before that happens. Like maybe you'll get your CCL as a Christmas present, if you're lucky. okay thanks a lot for your input, how does this board review process usually work? and how will i know when my objection is reversed? and i thought that leo agencies only had 30 days to object? Edited May 16, 2016 at 09:14 PM by Chi-Town-Raised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:33 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:33 PM okay thanks a lot for your input, how does this board review process usually work? and how will i know when my objection is reversed? and i thought that leo agencies only had 30 days to object? Not sure why it took so long to change to "Under Board Review," but I've seen a few that this happened to. Still, the objection window is only 30 days... so more than likely, the lack of status change earlier on was just an oversight, or they're just really busy at the ISP and hadn't gotten around to updating it. Per recent posts from Molly, I believe the board is currently reviewing objections from last April/May time frame. Basically, once they get to your application, they'll have a look at the reasons provided for the objection. In many cases, they simply overturn the objection outright, in which case they'll send a letter stating something to that effect, and your status will go back to "Under Review." If they feel the objection might be warranted, they'll send you a letter which states the reason(s) for the objection, and ask that you respond with whatever "evidence" you feel should be needed to object to the objection. They'll then review everything and come to a decision. Assuming the info you have provided here is true, they'll likely just overturn the objection and not ask for anything from you. But you're in for a wait, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:39 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:39 PM okay thanks a lot for your input, how does this board review process usually work? and how will i know when my objection is reversed? and i thought that leo agencies only had 30 days to object? Not sure why it took so long to change to "Under Board Review," but I've seen a few that this happened to. Still, the objection window is only 30 days... so more than likely, the lack of status change earlier on was just an oversight, or they're just really busy at the ISP and hadn't gotten around to updating it. Per recent posts from Molly, I believe the board is currently reviewing objections from last April/May time frame. Basically, once they get to your application, they'll have a look at the reasons provided for the objection. In many cases, they simply overturn the objection outright, in which case they'll send a letter stating something to that effect, and your status will go back to "Under Review." If they feel the objection might be warranted, they'll send you a letter which states the reason(s) for the objection, and ask that you respond with whatever "evidence" you feel should be needed to object to the objection. They'll then review everything and come to a decision. Assuming the info you have provided here is true, they'll likely just overturn the objection and not ask for anything from you. But you're in for a wait, either way. okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:43 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:43 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Town-Raised Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:47 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 09:47 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. would going to my state rep or senator help? and i applied a week after i turned 21... that couldn't be a problem right? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 16, 2016 at 10:58 PM Share Posted May 16, 2016 at 10:58 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. would going to my state rep or senator help? and i applied a week after i turned 21... that couldn't be a problem right? lol Nope and nope lol. Though it wouldn't hurt to talk to your legislators, if nothing more than to voice your opinions of the way the FCCA's objection window is used to arbitrarily and subjectively delay/deny someone's rights, even when they meet all of the statutory qualification and eligibility requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa59 Posted May 17, 2016 at 06:17 AM Share Posted May 17, 2016 at 06:17 AM okay thanks a lot for your input, how does this board review process usually work? and how will i know when my objection is reversed? and i thought that leo agencies only had 30 days to object? Not sure why it took so long to change to "Under Board Review," but I've seen a few that this happened to. Still, the objection window is only 30 days... so more than likely, the lack of status change earlier on was just an oversight, or they're just really busy at the ISP and hadn't gotten around to updating it. Per recent posts from Molly, I believe the board is currently reviewing objections from last April/May time frame. Basically, once they get to your application, they'll have a look at the reasons provided for the objection. In many cases, they simply overturn the objection outright, in which case they'll send a letter stating something to that effect, and your status will go back to "Under Review." If they feel the objection might be warranted, they'll send you a letter which states the reason(s) for the objection, and ask that you respond with whatever "evidence" you feel should be needed to object to the objection. They'll then review everything and come to a decision. Assuming the info you have provided here is true, they'll likely just overturn the objection and not ask for anything from you. But you're in for a wait, either way.I applied 9/2015 and was under review until 12/2015 ,thats when i went under board review. Close to 90 days after applying. Since then i have received my 5th 30 day letter. Just put the idea of getting it on the back burner. No sense checking isp website everyday. I think ive checked it so many times its burned an image of under board review to my screen!!!! Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyeb1 Posted May 17, 2016 at 02:20 PM Share Posted May 17, 2016 at 02:20 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. would going to my state rep or senator help? and i applied a week after i turned 21... that couldn't be a problem right? lolNope and nope lol. Though it wouldn't hurt to talk to your legislators, if nothing more than to voice your opinions of the way the FCCA's objection window is used to arbitrarily and subjectively delay/deny someone's rights, even when they meet all of the statutory qualification and eligibility requirements. I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the first nope. Not sure what they could do, but they won't do anything if you don't ask. A number of Senators and Representatives have procedures in place to help their constituents apply for CC through their offices. I'm sure some have encountered the same problem as you. We tend to forget they're there to represent us, just be polite and honest when explaining your situation. The worst that could happen is they might tell you they can't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted May 17, 2016 at 04:05 PM Share Posted May 17, 2016 at 04:05 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. would going to my state rep or senator help? and i applied a week after i turned 21... that couldn't be a problem right? lolNope and nope lol. Though it wouldn't hurt to talk to your legislators, if nothing more than to voice your opinions of the way the FCCA's objection window is used to arbitrarily and subjectively delay/deny someone's rights, even when they meet all of the statutory qualification and eligibility requirements. I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the first nope. Not sure what they could do, but they won't do anything if you don't ask. A number of Senators and Representatives have procedures in place to help their constituents apply for CC through their offices. I'm sure some have encountered the same problem as you. We tend to forget they're there to represent us, just be polite and honest when explaining your situation. The worst that could happen is they might tell you they can't help. I did qualify that statement with a follow-up that it wouldn't hurt.. But being that the OP lives in Cook County, it's unlikely that his legislators would even want to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infantrymen57 Posted May 18, 2016 at 02:16 AM Share Posted May 18, 2016 at 02:16 AM Applied 28Feb16QC Verified 13May16Active 17May16Without prints The wait for the mailman has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach21 Posted May 18, 2016 at 06:31 PM Share Posted May 18, 2016 at 06:31 PM Applied 28Feb16QC Verified 13May16Active 17May16Without prints The wait for the mailman has begun.same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted May 18, 2016 at 07:32 PM Share Posted May 18, 2016 at 07:32 PM okay thank you again... i haven't had any issues since i got my foid in oct 2015, have you seen people get there foid then get an objection for there ccl? Yep. The FOID and CCL have different standards, as evidenced by the abundance of B.S. objections by Dart. would going to my state rep or senator help? and i applied a week after i turned 21... that couldn't be a problem right? lol Be cool and patient. You may not have to do anything at all but wait. It is my understanding that you should be made aware within a reasonable amount of time.WD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballgame43 Posted May 20, 2016 at 03:14 AM Share Posted May 20, 2016 at 03:14 AM Applied 3/1 without printsReceived in mail today. 80 days total.Will Wally Walk tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyeb1 Posted May 23, 2016 at 04:36 PM Share Posted May 23, 2016 at 04:36 PM SUBMITTED with prints: 3/24/16QC VERIFIED: 5/4/16Went approved the morning of 5/17, checked back later that afternoon ACTIVE! Received in mail 5/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyeb1 Posted May 24, 2016 at 03:05 PM Share Posted May 24, 2016 at 03:05 PM SUBMITTED with prints: 3/24/16 QC VERIFIED: 5/4/16 Went approved the morning of 5/17, checked back later that afternoon ACTIVE! Received in mail 5/20Matching FOID card received yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magcivic Posted May 26, 2016 at 09:35 PM Share Posted May 26, 2016 at 09:35 PM I first applied in feb then rejected then i applied april 1 still waiting....i see some of you that applied a little before and after went active. I think they put me behind everyone for calling to much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink0281 Posted May 26, 2016 at 11:45 PM Share Posted May 26, 2016 at 11:45 PM SUBMITTED with prints: 3/24/16QC VERIFIED: 5/4/16Went approved the morning of 5/17, checked back later that afternoon ACTIVE! Received in mail 5/20Wow very close to my timing! Applied 03-31-16 with printsFinally went qc qualified on 05-07-16Then finally qc approved on 05-20-16Active 05-23-16Card in mailbox 05-25-16Will county..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted June 1, 2016 at 04:43 PM Share Posted June 1, 2016 at 04:43 PM But has anyone seen the price isp is charging for address and name change man it use to be $5 It costs $5 to change the address on a card that says FOID, but $75 for card that says CCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magcivic Posted June 1, 2016 at 04:44 PM Share Posted June 1, 2016 at 04:44 PM Applied 04/01Went qc 04/03Approved 05/28Waiting for mailmanBut has anyone seen the price isp is charging for address and name change man it use to be $5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catie1113 Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:19 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:19 PM For those of us who live in Cook County, being Darted is happening quite often. The Cook County Sheriff website has posted statistics relating to concealed carry license applications it has challenged: http://cookcountysheriff.org/conceal_and_carry.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted June 3, 2016 at 03:06 AM Share Posted June 3, 2016 at 03:06 AM Applied 04/01Went qc 04/03Approved 05/28Waiting for mailmanBut has anyone seen the price isp is charging for address and name change man it use to be $5start waiting for mailman when it goes ACTIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magcivic Posted June 3, 2016 at 05:57 PM Share Posted June 3, 2016 at 05:57 PM Applied 04/01Went qc 04/03Approved 05/28Waiting for mailmanBut has anyone seen the price isp is charging for address and name change man it use to be $5start waiting for mailman when it goes ACTIVEI am damn its taking long lol. Called today they said there sending both foid and ccl. But im like keep the foid i just want my ccl lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milesvdustin Posted June 8, 2016 at 12:19 AM Share Posted June 8, 2016 at 12:19 AM (edited) For those of us who live in Cook County, being Darted is happening quite often. The Cook County Sheriff website has posted statistics relating to concealed carry license applications it has challenged: http://cookcountysheriff.org/conceal_and_carry.htmlOh man what a turd..... That county can break off and float to the Atlantic.... We should all go to the linked page, on the right it says "report a crime tip" We can all report the needless deferral of CCW licenses that Dart is doing....... Edited June 8, 2016 at 12:20 AM by Milesvdustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woyteg Posted June 10, 2016 at 11:39 AM Share Posted June 10, 2016 at 11:39 AM So from I read here, there is no rule on how long one needs to wait for the license. I believe that the fact that I was a Legal Permanent Resident, till this past February when I became a US citizen, may slow down the process. I never had any problems with the law other than speeding ticket. About Dart now, isn't that a truth that they only have 30 days to object your application? So since I am on day 40+ and still under review I should be clear out of Poice objections or am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:00 PM Share Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:00 PM (edited) I'd say the only rule is you wait until your status goes active. The act's 90 days prints/120 days no-prints are usually met but no penalties if not. People under board review are waiting 1 yr+. Yes, LE has 30 days to object, but I thought that start was from the point your application was deemed as quality checked, i.e. all data submitted, correct format, addresses match, etc. Maybe someone else can come along to verify and provide insight on how long that takes after submission. Im guessing it takes longer than it used to and perhaps varies greatly. This is where the sub element inspection status of submitted, qc_verified, approved and active used to be helpful, but now there doesnt seem to be any consistant time frames for moving between statuses Edited June 10, 2016 at 01:05 PM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1CSA Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:27 PM Share Posted June 10, 2016 at 01:27 PM I'd say the only rule is you wait until your status goes active. The act's 90 days prints/120 days no-prints are usually met but no penalties if not. People under board review are waiting 1 yr+. Yes, LE has 30 days to object, but I thought that start was from the point your application was deemed as quality checked, i.e. all data submitted, correct format, addresses match, etc. Maybe someone else can come along to verify and provide insight on how long that takes after submission. Im guessing it takes longer than it used to and perhaps varies greatly. This is where the sub element inspection status of submitted, qc_verified, approved and active used to be helpful, but now there doesnt seem to be any consistant time frames for moving between statuses+1 on this. From what my CCL instructor said in class the 30 day appeals process starts after all your information is verified. so like he said just assume if you submitted prints it will be 90 days or with out 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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