powderhead Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:50 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:50 PM Regardless of location - school, tavern, etc. Can I leave my pistol in my vehicle loaded as long as it's stored according to law? I understanding is that it must be unloaded first before exiting to store in a trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:55 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:55 PM Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:55 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 02:55 PM First let me say with total humility make sure you read, reread, and rereread the law,e specially Section 65. It's important to be intimately familar with it. Second....there is some disagreement as to whether you can store it loaded or unloaded in your vehicle, heck we can't all agree on the color of the sky here, but MY understanding, and remember that IANAL, is loaded out of sight storage in a case within a locked vehicle is good to go. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:04 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:04 PM Second....there is some disagreement as to whether you can store it loaded or unloaded in your vehicle, heck we can't all agree on the color of the sky here, but MY understanding, and remember that IANAL, is loaded out of sight storage in a locked vehicle is good to go. Actually, Molly B locked another thread on this topic and made it clear that storing loaded inside your car IS legal. Only needs to be unloaded if you're in a GFZ and want to store in your trunk- if you have to leave your car to reach the trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booxone Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:07 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:07 PM Unless you are at a federally prohibited location, such as a nuclear plant, military base, and some others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:08 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:08 PM Yes, as I said, there is disagreement. Unless you're saying the thread was everyone agreeing with her. And I agree with her, but obviously that thread showed that there is disagreement. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjc Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:10 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:10 PM If you are at a Nuke power plant the gun better be at home or any other place but there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:13 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:13 PM Yes, as I said, there is disagreement. Unless you're saying the thread was everyone agreeing with her. And I agree with her, but obviously that thread showed that there is disagreement. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. People will disagree if you say that grass is green. I will go with her as an authority on this topic. Of course this doesn't apply to federally restricted places, which she said in other posts. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=44937entry643364 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:44 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 03:44 PM Best to stay concealed and keep a low profile to avoid any LEO interaction until others kindly set precedent for us, Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlJ Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:32 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:32 PM You can store it out of sight in a locked car OR in a locked case inside the car. If you have to exit the vehicle to store it, it needs to be unloaded first. What if you enter a GFZ parking area and your vehicle is a motorcycle?I'm going to say that you have to store it in a locked container before you get off the bike. If you have to get off the bike before locked storage can take place, then you must unload the firearm before you get off the motorcycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:34 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:34 PM ( Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:36 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:36 PM I read that as a case is still required within the cab. Of course the center console counts. Maybe this has been beaten to death already, IDK. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:37 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 04:37 PM shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. Seems to indicate a "case" out of plain view is required, so under your seat won't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowbob Posted February 1, 2014 at 05:34 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 05:34 PM If the case containing the firearm has to be out of plain view, then console or glove compartment wouldn't be acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xd9subcompact Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:01 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:01 PM Operative word "or". Inside the vehicle it needs to be in a "case". The vehicle need to be locked.In some other scenario where the vehicle or the place on the vehicle can't be locked, the case needs to be locked and out of plain view. I'm guessing a motorcycle saddle bag with a locked "case" inside the bag.Bottom line: someone can't walk up to the vehicle and see the gun, and they need to break in to steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:09 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:09 PM And to me the firearm has to be out of plain view, not the case. Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xd9subcompact Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:16 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 06:16 PM Yes, and since it says it must be concealed in a case, a Ziploc bag won't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhead Posted February 1, 2014 at 09:58 PM Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 09:58 PM Do we have anyone who reads legalese well enough to tell us the significance of the use of the word "may" as in, " shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store" To make it mandatory I would think they would have used the word "shall". The word "May" leads me to think maybe you want to maybe you don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xd9subcompact Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:08 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:08 PM They used "may" because they are giving you a couple of options.They can't say you "shall store" because you might want to take it with you, unloaded, in the "case" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderhead Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:15 PM Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:15 PM I see that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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