Joeyl Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:28 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:28 PM News travels fast. ABC7 (Chicago) news just mentioned, the NRA filed for an injunction, to allow carry immediately saying the state procrastinated and still has six months to implement and three to start issuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:29 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:29 PM Isnt it problematic to the state that the law now allows, as of yesterday, non residents w/CCW permits to vehicle carry immediately while there remains an effective ban to IL residents on all forms of carry or do I have my facts wrong? So now non residents can come to our state, pierce our borders, and enjoy a measure of self defense we are enjoined from exercising as residents? I would be satisfied with car carry as a measure of relief until permits are granted. At least there is some equality with that.We have already pierced your borders. Been doing it for over 100 years. I'm one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:33 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:33 PM News travels fast. ABC7 (Chicago) news just mentioned, the NRA filed for an injunction, to allow carry immediately saying the state procrastinated and still has six months to implement and three to start issuing.bravo abc7 is dumb it was the ISRA not the nra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhawk99 Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:34 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:34 PM been on this for the last 48 hours. lawyers are working on it. stay tuned. . .Thanks Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFigmentOfYourImagination Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:36 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:36 PM been on this for the last 48 hours. lawyers are working on it. stay tuned. . .Thanks Todd+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:38 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:38 PM The "new" law does not comply with the CA7 ruling IMHO. 1) for the next 3/4 of a year, nothing changes with UUW. This is a direct violation to the courts ruling2) non-residents are allowed additional freedoms that Illinois residents are not allowed - The right to carry loaded firearms in their vehicles.Please explain point #2 to me. As a nonresident I thought I had to abide by the same laws reseidents do when it comes to transporting firearms. The only real difference is that I don't need a FOID as per The People v Holmes, Illinois Supreme Court, April 2011. Non-Illinois residents with CCW permits from their state of residence can carry concealed in their vehicles while in Illinois immediately under the new law. Residents of Illinois cannot do this until they have an Illinois CCW permit.Okay, so the new question is, should I put the G21C, G30S, or G36 in the trunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:40 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:40 PM Todd, I support this move. If you guys are victorious I would like to see nonresidents with CCW from their home state to also be able to carry until permits are available from ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM When do we expect to hear something from the court on these motions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:57 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 09:57 PM When do we expect to hear something from the court on these motions?hopefully this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1MEANGT Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM If this happens................... Bravo.......... Bravo. Even with 2 out of state permits I am still not allowed to carry. Another 9 months is unacceptable. We have been denied our right for to long. Stick it to them good guys!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM If this happens................... Bravo.......... Bravo. Even with 2 out of state permits I am still not allowed to carry. Another 9 months is unacceptable. We have been denied our right for to long. Stick it to them good guys!!!!!!!I'm in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM The fact that only non-residents can carry a loaded gun in their car opens the door to equal protection lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM NBC news missed the boat. Their big story is 1.... thats 1 restaurant put a sign in the window "No weapons allowed". Out of a city of how many million citizens and business's 1 diner puts up a sign. And nothing on any court motions.http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Chicago-Restaurant-to-Post-No-Weapons-Sign-214920141.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfried1 Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM Conveniently, Keefer's has a contact form on their website. http://www.keefersrestaurant.com/contact.html. I just sent them a quick note thanking them for preventing me from patronizing a business that doesn't support the second amendment. I'm sure they don't care but it made me feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:51 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:51 PM Conveniently, Keefer's has a contact form on their website. http://www.keefersrestaurant.com/contact.html. I just sent them a quick note thanking them for preventing me from patronizing a business that doesn't support the second amendment. I'm sure they don't care but it made me feel good. I think a nice 1-star Yelp review is order for them. -Every resturant's worst nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:54 PM Conveniently, Keefer's has a contact form on their website. http://www.keefersre...om/contact.html. I just sent them a quick note thanking them for preventing me from patronizing a business that doesn't support the second amendment. I'm sure they don't care but it made me feel good.I just did the same thing. Think they might think twice about it or just another AS brainwashed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:00 PM Conveniently, Keefer's has a contact form on their website. http://www.keefersrestaurant.com/contact.html. I just sent them a quick note thanking them for preventing me from patronizing a business that doesn't support the second amendment. I'm sure they don't care but it made me feel good. I think a nice 1-star Yelp review is order for them. -Every resturant's worst nightmare. Check it out: http://www.yelp.com/biz/keefers-restaurant-chicago?sort_by=date_desc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfried1 Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:05 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:05 PM 1 star on Yelp. Losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM I agree to the Yelp and Opentable reviews. Restaurants are highly dependent on these reviews to drive traffic to their business. Make sure your reviews are not a violation of the Yelp or Opentable ToS though. They are also on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalVideo Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:28 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:28 PM I could live with my FOID card being a carry permit until the ISP gets its act together. That'll expedite the process that's for sure heh. I got permits from AZ and UT as well as an 03 FFL, it's not like I haven't been "checked out."Good point and there are probably many that hold a FOID card and permits from other states. I have Florida and Utah carry permits. And I too have an FFL type 7. I've had more background checks and finger prints taken that prove that I am not only a trustworthy person but I have gone through many training sessions. Plus I compete in sanctioned events and have trained with the FBI and many SWAT teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlJ Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM Maybe their alcohol sales are 51%+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM NBC news missed the boat. Their big story is 1.... thats 1 restaurant put a sign in the window "No weapons allowed". Out of a city of how many million citizens and business's 1 diner puts up a sign. And nothing on any court motions.http://www.nbcchicag...-214920141.htmland yet that sign isnt legal. ironic isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM Maybe their alcohol sales are 51%+? Then they would be violating the IL Liquor Act and would be subject to real fines and punishment because they are classified as a restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:51 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:51 PM another of the filingYES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM Share Posted July 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM I wonder how thrilled Chicago police officers that serve that diners district would be, to know that place deems that people who pass background checks, have a clear criminal records cannot be trusted legally armed in that establishment. I meant I think a lot of CPD officers are now happy that their Wife's, Husband's and other relatives will be able to be armed under the new legislation. If they want to take the training, but if their loved ones decide to eat at that place they once again have to take a chance of being easy victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:08 AM Share Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:08 AM Noting that I'll not give negative reviews at a place I haven't (and will not be ) eating at due to policy. How does one go about reporting this place as a gunfreezone for those apps? I think as they are willing to declare their stance so early, they deserve to be reported for those apps ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfried1 Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:12 AM Share Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:12 AM They've reviewed me without meeting me so I have no problem doing the same in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM Share Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM I agree to the Yelp and Opentable reviews. Restaurants are highly dependent on these reviews to drive traffic to their business. Make sure your reviews are not a violation of the Yelp or Opentable ToS though. They are also on Facebook. I think those could work well in addition to the No Guns No Money cards. I understand this restaurant's right as a private business to do that, but it seems doing it so early and landing a TV spot is almost like an invitation for criminals or any wacko that might want to try something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
out in the tall grass Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM Share Posted July 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM I agree to the Yelp and Opentable reviews. Restaurants are highly dependent on these reviews to drive traffic to their business. Make sure your reviews are not a violation of the Yelp or Opentable ToS though. They are also on Facebook. I think those could work well in addition to the No Guns No Money cards. I understand this restaurant's right as a private business to do that, but it seems doing it so early and landing a TV spot is almost like an invitation for criminals or any wacko that might want to try something. I think landing a TV spot is what they were after, remember even bad publicity beats no publicity, or it could be they wanted all the thousands of Quinn supporters to eat there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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