Blackhawk067 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:00 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:00 PM Got a message from Valinda via Todd... Todd is in a meeting and asked me to get back with you. ***** ***** ****** ********** ******* ****** (omitted by me just to be safe) - that might not be the exact words he used! Cullerton made sure that Sb2193, the only bill that stands a chance of passing, didn't make it out of committee and made sure the bill that if it passes the senate will not pass the house according to Phelps. Its a big game of chicken and the clock keeps ticking..... Its a contest of who is going to budge In short, we know exactly what's going on between certain parties and certain people. In fact, it's what most of us predicted in the last day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:04 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:04 PM Aren't we glad that Illinois has One Party Rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshipley92 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:06 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:06 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCityGuy Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:06 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:06 PM Ok maybe it's just me but does someone what to translate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM IDK what that is supposed to mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_50BMG Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM Ok maybe it's just me but does someone what to translate? not just you, I'm in the same boat scratching my head trying to read between the lines and what was omitted from the message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjames Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:10 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:10 PM IDK what that is supposed to mean. Maybe it would help if I summarize the key point: ****** ******** ******** ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chidiver Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:11 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:11 PM Cullerton is going all in and staring down Madigan. We need to kill it with fire to where there is no choice but Phelps bill. Melt rhe Capitol's phone lines. I wasn't able to listen in today. Was there any discussion about the unconstitutionality of a simple majority on a bill with preemption? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawk067 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:12 PM Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:12 PM In short, it's a pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalVideo Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM In short, it's a pissing contest.and we are getting SOAKED and I am getting sick of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshipley92 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Got a message from Valinda via Todd... Todd is in a meeting and asked me to get back with you. ***** ***** ****** ********** ******* ****** (omitted by me just to be safe) - that might not be the exact words he used! Cullerton made sure that Sb2193, the only bill that stands a chance of passing, didn't make it out of committee and made sure the bill that if it passes the senate will not pass the house according to Phelps. Its a big game of chicken and the clock keeps ticking..... Its a contest of who is going to budge In short, we know exactly what's going on between certain parties and certain people. In fact, it's what most of us predicted in the last day or two. I'd say THAT is the meat of the message. It's a game of chicken.... A showdown if you will, between Cullerton and Madigan Wonder what kind of odds you could get from a bookie on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman1967 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Maybe it's a bunch of profanity lol. Sent from my LT28at using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM No. It's going exactly as predicted.Court carry will doom the gun control effort in this state forever. And Lisa's chance at the mansion.They know this. We just need one of them to commit political suicide on our terms, not their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:14 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:14 PM IDK what that is supposed to mean. Maybe it would help if I summarize the key point: ****** ******** ******** ******* Aw c'mon, let's be accurate here The exact quote was ***** ***** ****** ********** ******* ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:14 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:14 PM I D K I Don't Know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM Cullerton is going all in and staring down Madigan.Or it is part of the script agreed to up front. You can never assume anything is what it seems with these guys. One of the options to screw us all over is to do nothing. We would almost be worse off than we are now. The court cases might take half a decade to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_50BMG Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM IDK what that is supposed to mean. Maybe it would help if I summarize the key point: ****** ******** ******** ******* Aw c'mon, let's be accurate here The exact quote was ***** ***** ****** ********** ******* ****** I'd like to buy a vowel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM In short, it's a pissing contest.Was your post redacted or profanity filtered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM I wasn't able to listen in today. Was there any discussion about the unconstitutionality of a simple majority on a bill with preemption? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Only from the forum members... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockShooter Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM If it's a true standoff, then neither is likely to budge until the eleventh hour, unless prodded by something they are afraid of. It's going to be a long week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM I'd like to buy a vowel NO problem Here * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM I suspect HB138 or different bill with same language will be amended to compromise on preemption and will pass both houses this week. HB138 has almost zero preemption, which is unworkable, while SB2193 had royal preemption, which was frankly astonishing. I doubt Madigan will stick on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM By the way i have never read anywhere where that lisa is going to run for gov. so why do people keep bring that up and thinking she's going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM So far the only surprise today was when Cullerton told Phelps "you are welcome in the senate chambers anytime".... However when he said "as long as you are not running for election over here" it was not a surprise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM By the way i have never read anywhere where that lisa is going to run for gov. so why do people keep bring that up and thinking she's going to win. Well, when I bring it up it is because a far higher percentage of governors seem to become President that any other path.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM By the way i have never read anywhere where that lisa is going to run for gov. so why do people keep bring that up and thinking she's going to win. They've been hinting at it for some time.She has no hope of winning since the Madigan name is so badly damaged now, be we need them to keep thinking that there is.Cullerton won't fall on his sword, so we need Madigan to push him onto it.No matter what happens, after 9 June 2013, there will be a gruesome political bloodbath in the state.Both side will seek allies.... guess where these allies will come from?THAT is when we can make some real headway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chidiver Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM Can someone better connected than me please get a Senator in the debate to call BS on Cullerton trying to pass a preemptive bill unconstitutionally and that we'll be back at the edge of the cliff shortly? Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM Interesting analysis.... There is much in there that I could see happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM I'd like to buy a vowel I'd like to buy all of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:26 PM that's the sound of us getting messed over yet again. it'll happen. more arm twisting (how that works, i don't understand) and rushed compromises will get shoved in and passed. just so that they can say "we had to do SOMETHING ! (to save our phoney baloney jobs)" and once again, we will be the laughingstock of the nation, and nothing will change. i have no hope of ANYTHING good happening anymore. (i hope i get proved wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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