Tvandermyde Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:27 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:27 PM Here are my observations on the amendment: Senate amendment * weapons must be concealed at all times. This creates a violation of the law if someone flashes a gun while reaching for a wallet, or takes their coat off while driving.* the bill is MAY issue across the board. While it talks about the department shall issue, only IF all the criteria are met, which in cludes moral character and have a purpose.* expands duty to inform to people who may not be law enforcement.* fees are used to butress FOID and pay for the new LEADS system. $5 goes into mental health reporting.*additional $25 for Chicago or Cook County endorsement Revenue stream for chicago and cook county* 180 days before implimentation* Notice will be sent to every applicants chief of police and sheriff where the applicant resides* appeals process not spelled out, very limited; no award of costs or fees* Chicago & Cook would be allowed to set up their own rules for carry under their endorsements* no timeline for Chicago or Cook to respond* no reciprocity or recognition of other states permits* no allowance for non-residents to apply* New prohibitions appear to come from chicago cfp and seeks to add aditional prohibitions like an weapons charge or misdemeanor from a bar fight.* uses arrests without conviction for denail/prohibition* requires proper reason to get a permit* uses moral character guage in order to get a permit* drug test failure grounds for denial- even for prescribed drugs* misdemeanor for any weapons charge including hunting violations reason for denial* application looks more like a entrance app to the CIA than a carry permit* wavier of rights and consent to search* expanded duty to inform* requires finger prints and additional fees raising permit fee to $150* unlimited rules and discreation for Chicago and Cook County for background checks* no penalties for chicago or cookmkeeping their own list of permit holders* $100 renewal fee $50 lost or destroyed * most prohibited places include adjecent property* mcpier and museums off limits* no resteraunt carry* no carry on mass transit* no carry NEAR any school* expanded college ban * any building owner can enforce a ban on any one with a lease. Commercial or residential. This would include bans in common areas of condos or apartment buildings and malls* The department can restrict permitees to time place and manner of carry* limits on the types of handguns a person can carry* increased penalties from hb997 class a first offense* arrests trigger presumption of objection* training must have been within 1 year of the bill taking effect. Knocks out most previous training* courses must approved by state police* training will be an illinois specific course due to required inclusions* must train and qualify on any hamdgun a perspn wishes to carry* tries to micro manage insteictors* weak preemption language * Adds background check language that would ban the transfers without state police check or loans of firearms to a friend while hunting or on a range* adds language on prohibiting possesion of firearms and foid revocation based upon psycholgist or physician* revocation of foid/ rights for failure to rort property crime* inserts developmental disabilities as reson for foid revocation* allows any person to report individuals for foid revocation* colleges to report students for foid revocation* ads no contact orders for foid revocation I'm only up to page 74. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:30 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:30 PM time to kill it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilannoyed Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:31 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:31 PM F that S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:31 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:31 PM That sounds ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camar10 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:33 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:33 PM Wow, I don't guess they payed much attention to what happened in the House..or don't care maybe. Thanks Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctman800 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:34 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:34 PM It all sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Jim. Just in case someone is new; using purple means sarcasm, just want to make sure I am not missunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venia Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:34 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:34 PM Wipe your arse with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikefishshrooms1 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:35 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:35 PM Not even a good attempt at writting a ccw law..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:36 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:36 PM I can't help but wonder what would be going through Judge Posner's mind should he read the rubish contained in the language of this amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockready Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:36 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:36 PM KILL THIS BAD BILL!EMAIL CALL AND WRITE YOUR SENATORS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotty_rott Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:37 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:37 PM And I thought amend 9 for 997 was bad, this is horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onytay Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:37 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:37 PM What a load of crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme333 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM sounds like police state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM In other words our reply line by line will be...NFGNFGNFGNFGNFGNFGKeep dreaming Madigan and kiss my white butt? If THIS is the "compromise' then I think we are getting court carry in June...They mine as well have called it the "Tell Illinois gun owners to FOAD" act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:38 PM These people are really that clueless. There are some ****** up people running this state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
output Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:39 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:39 PM These people are out of their minds. No way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:40 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:40 PM Clearly that all meets the "reasonable restrictions" requirement in the 7th circuit's ruling.... Well, I guess if you know going into it that you are writing something that sucks then you might as well make it really suck.... I'm starting to think these clowns all have a pool going to see who can come up with the most ridiculous bill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:41 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:41 PM they can kiss my watatoosey.. ABSOLUTELY NOTTT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAXD9 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:44 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:44 PM Sounds like a Christmas list that they want to start negotiations on. This should be dead on arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM Kill it. Kill it with fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Peterson Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM *no allowance for non-residents to apply Tell them I will sue them if they don't allow me to apply, and so will a bunch of other residents of Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsxdm Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:46 PM Todd, the troops are at ease, waiting for further orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:47 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:47 PM Yup exactly the kind of bill I would expect the Chicago machine would come up with. And they think this follows the spirit of the 7th district courts ruling... How? They just continue to live in that special privleged bubble. How much will this cost the taxpayers if this is passes? After the obvious lawsuits are settled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:49 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:49 PM My gosh. That's horrible. It cannot stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelandus Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:49 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:49 PM No No No... not being pushed around and bullied anymore. The antis better put their thinking caps on a little better. This crap won't stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feh Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:50 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:50 PM How could they write a MAY ISSUE bill again, when the prior one was shot down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:53 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:53 PM This sounds no different than what we have now. Should be DOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:54 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:54 PM The longer this goes on, despite Todds best efforts to make these people see the light I think the following is going to happen: Court Carry in JuneSomeone gets popped for carry in ChicagoThat person sues and this ends up @ the SCOTUS and then FINALLY we have some closure on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:55 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:55 PM Would have been easier to write, concealed carry in Illinois is allowed but not by individual residents of the state or by non residents passing through the state. Retired and active duty on leave law enforcement exempt from exclusions(they asked for assistance from Acevedo). Quentin Terrentino must be scripting this. This is Kill Bill the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazzinbird Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:55 PM Share Posted April 24, 2013 at 02:55 PM Lt make the calls and kill this bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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