Tvandermyde Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:11 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:11 AM There are going to be a series of amendments on HB-1155. It looks like HB-997 will be stuck in committee and we will be given a chance to amend HB-1155. Our job is to shut down bad amendments and have an amendment that turns HB-1155 into HB997 for final passage. That's whay the message started with we will not take a BAD BILL. Now we want to kill any bad amendment and only have our supporters vote for our amendment, thus gutting the antis' efforts. Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:13 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:13 AM No bad bill, no bad amendment. Only NRA endorsed amendments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:15 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:15 AM Is there any danger, in this approach, of having a partially bad bill? 997 with transportation ban, etc....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:16 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:16 AM I'll do whatever T and V ask, just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:19 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:19 AM Ok sending Emails and making calls to friends and family. All have said they will participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Is there any danger, in this approach, of having a partially bad bill? 997 with transportation ban, etc....? Not if our amendment is the last one voted on. It will replace everything in the bill previous to our language being added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Get out your bayonet and gut the bad amendments out of 1155 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:20 AM Is there any danger, in this approach, of having a partially bad bill? 997 with transportation ban, etc....? yes...support what abolt told you to say and support above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:22 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:22 AM Is there any danger, in this approach, of having a partially bad bill? 997 with transportation ban, etc....? Not if our amendment is the last one voted on. It will replace everything in the bill previous to our language being added. This .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhawk99 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:25 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:25 AM Just give us our marching orders and we will bury them in calls, emails and in person visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM Just give us our marching orders and we will bury them in calls, emails and in person visits. You've got them, in several threads: Call the reps and tell them: 1. Oppose any amendment to HB1155 that is NOT endorsed by the NRA. 2. Support any amendment to HB1155 that IS endorsed by the NRA. No bad bill, no bad amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM Got cha, like what Quinn tried to do to get an AWB passed in Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCityGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:27 AM All I need to know. Will burn the phones tomorrow. Don't understand the Amendment process at all but it sounds like it will be an exceptionally exciting week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sctman800 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:33 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:33 AM My head still hurts but this is simple enough for even me to figure out. In the words of Al Bundy "lets rock." Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:43 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:43 AM Got cha, like what Quinn tried to do to get an AWB passed in Dec. Like what Kotowski tried to do in the Senate in 2009. Read through the amendments, check the dates, see the bill as filed, see how a bill that originally starts as "concerning the sexual exploitation of children" turns into a magazine ban. There truly is nothing new under the sun. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:47 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:47 AM Ah, that's the one. The mag ban from the sexual predator bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wisch Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:57 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:57 AM WHY IS HB-997 stuck in committee ??? WHY CANT IT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE??? JUST CURIOUS AND WANT THE CORRECT ANSWER, IF I CAN GET IT. THANKS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazzinbird Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:59 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 02:59 AM I got a email back from 1 and they are on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:00 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:00 AM Because Madigan won't let it out That's the power of the speaker and why are you yelling? or is your caplock stuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:01 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:01 AM WHY IS HB-997 stuck in committee ??? WHY CANT IT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE??? JUST CURIOUS AND WANT THE CORRECT ANSWER, IF I CAN GET IT. THANKS... Maybe this will help.It's a thread by abolt243 - How A Bill Becomes Lawhttp://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:14 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:14 AM IMO, if he is agnostic about it, then this maneuver allows him to do a few things:1) He killed the horrible, terrible, evil carry bill in committee.2) He pushed a safe, reasonable, and common sense carry bill.3) When the amendment process takes over and we are successful in turning HB-1155 into HB-997, he can blame the crazy gun lobby for hijacking his bill and making the children less safe. "I tried with all my might" will be his answer, thus providing himself political cover. He also scores points with his base by fighting theevil NRA gun lobby.This is just my analysis, which isn't worth a lot.Editorial Addition: Of course, his hope is to kill our bill and be successful with his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:21 AM Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:21 AM WHY IS HB-997 stuck in committee ??? WHY CANT IT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE??? JUST CURIOUS AND WANT THE CORRECT ANSWER, IF I CAN GET IT. THANKS... 1. Madigan has his own plan and hes not telling us.2. The committee is stacked against us.3. it was sent to a hostile committee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:25 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:25 AM WHY IS HB-997 stuck in committee ??? WHY CANT IT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE??? JUST CURIOUS AND WANT THE CORRECT ANSWER, IF I CAN GET IT. THANKS... 1. Madigan has his own plan and hes not telling us.2. The committee is stacked against us.3. it was sent to a hostile committee 4. and then buried in a sub-committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:32 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:32 AM i think we all knew it was going to stay in the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Man Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:36 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:36 AM Hold it together people. Keep your eye on the prize. Work as the well oiled machine that we have proven we are. Please follow the directive given to us. Stay the course and get her done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:41 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:41 AM Think about capturing his queen instead of just crowning your kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:42 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:42 AM yep stay the course Todd has our backs. game on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckfarrack Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:55 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 03:55 AM Dammit i wish i could be on the phone in the morning.I'll see if it will be possible.I won't quit fighting,i'm with y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2013 at 04:19 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 04:19 AM Rising up to the challenge of our rival..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCD Posted February 25, 2013 at 06:59 AM Share Posted February 25, 2013 at 06:59 AM Does this mean 997 is buried for good? If our side can get the appropriate amendments to 1155, I'm all for that. Was just still hoping to see even eventual movement to the floor on 997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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