Uncle Harley Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:28 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:28 PM My sources tell me there have been 3 shootings in the Champaign area in 4 days. Yet Jakobsson was the only rep south of I-80 to vote no on HB 148. She still feels the cops are adequate enough to prevent these shootings. We need to get this broad voted out !
Reggie Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:50 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:50 PM My sources tell me there have been 3 shootings in the Champaign area in 4 days. Yet Jakobsson was the only rep south of I-80 to vote no on HB 148. She still feels the cops are adequate enough to prevent these shootings. We need to get this broad voted out !I would love to have a town hall with her and ask her why she thinks police are doing a good job. And to justify with common-sense. Which isn't possible.
Chad Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:53 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:53 PM One on Bradley I believe Thursday evening/Friday wee morning... Caught the guy in Indy... As of 7 something this morning there was a police standoff on Hedge street due to the police trying to serve a search warrant related to a shooting yesterday. Have not heard of the third. But it would not surprise me.
Uncle Harley Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:56 PM Author Posted July 5, 2011 at 01:56 PM Not sure what locations, I have a good friend from HS that is on the force in urbanna he did not go into details so I didnt ask.
abolt243 Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:14 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:14 PM My sources tell me there have been 3 shootings in the Champaign area in 4 days. Yet Jakobsson was the only rep south of I-80 to vote no on HB 148. She still feels the cops are adequate enough to prevent these shootings. We need to get this broad voted out ! Voting her out was the long term goal of Ol' Coach. He had figured out that you weren't about to change her mind. Considering the makeup of the district, she would be most vulnerable in the primary, with a more gun friendly Dem running against her. With the University and the entitlement crowd in that district, it would be tough to beat her with a Republican. Got anyone in mind to run against her?? Any contacts in the Dem party in that area? How is the redistricting map gonna affect that district?? I think the final day to file petitions to run in a primary is in Nov. Got some time for people on the ground there to get something going!! AB
Uncle Harley Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:28 PM Author Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:28 PM other than the one buddy and a couple of family members up there, I know noone. None of the mentioned are political at all. I tried talking my wifes Aunt who used to be a school teacher to run because she hates Naomi but it was no dice She has been sending letters of disaproval on many issues not just carry. She doesnt like guns doesnt own a gun, but strongly feels that if ( her words to me ) " guys like you want to carry them then it ought to make the wanna be gang bangers think twice".
sirflyguy Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:53 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 02:53 PM The police there may be the best of the best, but it is a mathematical/statistical/geographical impossibility that they can be in enough places to prevent every tragedy like this from occurring. I have never quite understood this viewpoint from the anti's. It may be ignorance or stupidity, it may just be blind ideology, or it may be that they need some kind of point that sounds good, knowing all the while it isn't true but needing it for a talking point to further their cause of disarming the citizens.
Jeffrey Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:02 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:02 PM Having been to C.U. only twice in my life, one of those trips was 2 weekends ago. I just happened to be staying at a hotel not far from Bradley. I actually had to drive Bradley twice a day going from the hotel to the baseball park. The park was beautiful but once out of the park, I felt very unfamiliar and ultimately unsafe. Here is my short story experience:I dropped my 10 year old son at the park with the rest of his team while I ran to the hotel with my 2 year old to get checked in. As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. After just driving through an area that had crime written all over it, I felt slightly more comfy knowing I had my lcp in the console but also thought about how much time I would need to prepare it in the event I needed it. Illinois needs concealed carry from every corner of the state with no restrictions on traveling.
4thestars Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:11 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:11 PM My sources tell me there have been 3 shootings in the Champaign area in 4 days. Yet Jakobsson was the only rep south of I-80 to vote no on HB 148. She still feels the cops are adequate enough to prevent these shootings. We need to get this broad voted out ! I live just outside of her district, yet am more affected by her district than the one I'm in. My husband and I both work in her district, and there are some stores and services we cannot go to other than in her district. I'll gladly campaign on behave of any Dem to challenge her in the primary.
Uncle Harley Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:24 PM Author Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:24 PM The police there may be the best of the best, but it is a mathematical/statistical/geographical impossibility that they can be in enough places to prevent every tragedy like this from occurring. I have never quite understood this viewpoint from the anti's. It may be ignorance or stupidity, it may just be blind ideology, or it may be that they need some kind of point that sounds good, knowing all the while it isn't true but needing it for a talking point to further their cause of disarming the citizens. I asked my buddy if he had ruby slippers so he could magically apear where the crime was.
Chad Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:47 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:47 PM As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. I know exactly where you were.... In train situations I always leave enough room from the car in front of me to GTFO and if it's not in first the foot is VERY close to the clutch.
Jeffrey Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:53 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 03:53 PM As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. I know exactly where you were.... In train situations I always leave enough room from the car in front of me to GTFO and if it's not in first the foot is VERY close to the clutch.Good point. A 2 car gap is my rule.
Drylok Posted July 5, 2011 at 08:06 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 08:06 PM My mother in law lives just off of the good end of Bradly but I can see that the violence is bleeding out toward her. I wish I could find a way to calm her nevers about owning and shooting pistols. After we get the baby settled in maybe I can get her to take the basic pistol course with my wife.
oneshot Posted July 5, 2011 at 08:55 PM Posted July 5, 2011 at 08:55 PM She was quoted in the paper a couple of weeks ago as saying that she did "a poll" and the results led her to conclude that her constituents do not want RTC.
tlatoani Posted July 6, 2011 at 01:58 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 01:58 PM This makes me want to run for office. I live in Savoy (basically a Champaign suburb for those not familiar). I have heard that the north end of CU is pretty bad at night. A friend worked at FedEX on a night shift-he said just driving home was an eye-opener. I didn't realize prostitution even existed in this town, but he said it is rampant. Among "other things". Too bad I'd never be able to carry since the campus would never allow it. It seems a bit crazy to me, but then again I am not sure I want a bunch of armed students. I do remember how impulsive I was at that age.
oneshot Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:12 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:12 PM I didn't realize prostitution even existed in this town, but he said it is rampant. Among "other things". And there MUST be a crack epidemic for anyone to want to be touched by those women! Let alone PAY for it!!!
Chad Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:23 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:23 PM Yeah, North Market between 10PM and 5AM should be somewhere ALL of our elected should tour a few times a year.
Uncle Harley Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:25 PM Author Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:25 PM We lived just off Eastern IL University's Campus in Charleston back when I was in college and used to run up to Champaign to get wild. I can remember walking home after the bars closed on a game night and watched some drunk dude literally walking into some random persons home that had a TV on whom his buddies pleaded for him to not go into and raided their fridge for food. Came out laughing and said they were too afraid to get off the couch and that they didn't say a word. At which point I said to my buddies we need to get the heck out of here before we become associated with those idiots. That was the last time I went there to drink.
Xwing Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:34 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:34 PM wow. I lived in Champaign for 4 years: corner of Chalmers and 4th; was only ~20 blocks from Bradley Ave, I dont' recall it being high-crime.
Chad Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:40 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:40 PM We lived just off Eastern IL University's Campus in Charleston back when I was in college and used to run up to Champaign to get wild. Exact same scenario here... There's a bar on campus I'm still not allowed in. wow. I lived in Champaign for 4 years: corner of Chalmers and 4th; was only ~20 blocks from Bradley Ave, I dont' recall it being high-crime. The DMZ between good and bad is quite small. 20 blocks is similar to the Pacific ocean here.
tlatoani Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:49 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:49 PM wow. I lived in Champaign for 4 years: corner of Chalmers and 4th; was only ~20 blocks from Bradley Ave, I dont' recall it being high-crime. My brother was robbed at gunpoint in 2000. He was close to campus-somewhere around 2nd and Healey, near that park. Not too smart walking alone at 2a. It really scared all of us. He still has the scar from being pistol-whipped. Then there was the rash of beatings over the last year. I was expecting some vigilante to make it a spectacle, but it never happened.
Uncle Harley Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:56 PM Author Posted July 6, 2011 at 02:56 PM We lived just off Eastern IL University's Campus in Charleston back when I was in college and used to run up to Champaign to get wild. Exact same scenario here... There's a bar on campus I'm still not allowed in. wow. I lived in Champaign for 4 years: corner of Chalmers and 4th; was only ~20 blocks from Bradley Ave, I dont' recall it being high-crime. The DMZ between good and bad is quite small. 20 blocks is similar to the Pacific ocean here. LOl We used to hit C-street ( I think that was the gay bar) and play the i'm not local didn't realize this was a gay bar routine. A buddy of ours happend to stumble in there one night and realized that it was full of gay men. He grabbed a chick and said dance with me I think that dude is hitting on me and she said yeah silly it's a gay bar. He told her he didn't know that because he was from out of town and she said me and my friends come here so we dont get hit on by men all night and it ended up working out quite well for him.
Chad Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:03 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:03 PM Actually my existence is pretty much gay-repellant, in other words I'm not attractive to other men AT ALL. Sooo, I would actually go there quite a bit with a gay guy that I was friends with from class, one kickass guy BTW. I could actually enjoy myself there without getting messed with, etc. There were also TONS of straight single women there too I have done work in there on their audio system. One time they tore up a TON of stuff on a Friday night and had to have it running by sat evening. I got them up and running and they treated me like GOLD. In fact I had to have a ride home from the service call... when they drink there... they DRINK. Shots shaken on ice, one after another.
Chad Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:07 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:07 PM I was expecting some vigilante to make it a spectacle, but it never happened. Yes it did. A couple of tune-ups got reversed. They did not hide the fact in the reports either. The most notable one was when a wrestler or gymnast got jumped, cant remember which but it was the type of guy that would have a 6 pack of muscles in his scalp. Tables got turned, IIRC one or more of the attackers went to the hospital. A girl got accosted in our building on the top floor, she was a black-belt and she left DNA evidence of the attacker down 3 flights of stairs.
junglebob Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:33 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:33 PM Having been to C.U. only twice in my life, one of those trips was 2 weekends ago. I just happened to be staying at a hotel not far from Bradley. I actually had to drive Bradley twice a day going from the hotel to the baseball park. The park was beautiful but once out of the park, I felt very unfamiliar and ultimately unsafe. Here is my short story experience:I dropped my 10 year old son at the park with the rest of his team while I ran to the hotel with my 2 year old to get checked in. As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. After just driving through an area that had crime written all over it, I felt slightly more comfy knowing I had my lcp in the console but also thought about how much time I would need to prepare it in the event I needed it. Illinois needs concealed carry from every corner of the state with no restrictions on traveling.For those of us not near Champaign, CU means Champaign/Urbana right?
Uncle Harley Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:35 PM Author Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:35 PM Having been to C.U. only twice in my life, one of those trips was 2 weekends ago. I just happened to be staying at a hotel not far from Bradley. I actually had to drive Bradley twice a day going from the hotel to the baseball park. The park was beautiful but once out of the park, I felt very unfamiliar and ultimately unsafe. Here is my short story experience:I dropped my 10 year old son at the park with the rest of his team while I ran to the hotel with my 2 year old to get checked in. As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. After just driving through an area that had crime written all over it, I felt slightly more comfy knowing I had my lcp in the console but also thought about how much time I would need to prepare it in the event I needed it. Illinois needs concealed carry from every corner of the state with no restrictions on traveling.For those of us not near Champaign, CU means Champaign/Urbana right? yes they grew together so it looks like one big town with an imaginary line right down the middle
tlatoani Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:44 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 03:44 PM I was expecting some vigilante to make it a spectacle, but it never happened. Yes it did. A couple of tune-ups got reversed. They did not hide the fact in the reports either. The most notable one was when a wrestler or gymnast got jumped, cant remember which but it was the type of guy that would have a 6 pack of muscles in his scalp. Tables got turned, IIRC one or more of the attackers went to the hospital. A girl got accosted in our building on the top floor, she was a black-belt and she left DNA evidence of the attacker down 3 flights of stairs. I was thinking more of a guy with a shotgun under his coat...but yeah those stories were good to hear.
oneshot Posted July 6, 2011 at 04:18 PM Posted July 6, 2011 at 04:18 PM For those of us not near Champaign, CU means Champaign/Urbana right? Yup
lee n. field Posted July 7, 2011 at 01:24 AM Posted July 7, 2011 at 01:24 AM Having been to C.U. only twice in my life, one of those trips was 2 weekends ago. I just happened to be staying at a hotel not far from Bradley. I actually had to drive Bradley twice a day going from the hotel to the baseball park. The park was beautiful but once out of the park, I felt very unfamiliar and ultimately unsafe. Here is my short story experience:I dropped my 10 year old son at the park with the rest of his team while I ran to the hotel with my 2 year old to get checked in. As I am sitting a the train that lasted forever, I hear sirens screaming from multiple directions. Immediately the windows go up and I continue my scan of the area. In under 10 seconds I see multiple cops on foot pursuit. After just driving through an area that had crime written all over it, I felt slightly more comfy knowing I had my lcp in the console but also thought about how much time I would need to prepare it in the event I needed it. Illinois needs concealed carry from every corner of the state with no restrictions on traveling.For those of us not near Champaign, CU means Champaign/Urbana right? Yup-o. I lived there until 1991. It's been 20 years, probably to the month, since I left. There's not much that I regret leaving. We lived in the trailer park on north Lincoln. It was a slum then, completely gone now.
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