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  1. Starting this as a thread for FOID wait times, new applications only. No renewals or address changes, as they are usually much longer on average. Maybe this can be pinned?
  2. Where do I begin? Heck I don't know. There's a couple of things... I submitted a new CCL application and received my CCL card before people who are renewing. I noticed on the ISP portal that my FOID and CCL were both renewed and marked active on different days. I questioned whether or not I would receive a new FOID and CCL separately. Others had pointed out that would be a combined FOID/CCL card. I did not receive just one card. I received my FOID WITH CONCEALED CARRY INDICATOR on 02/18. The letter attached to the card specifically says that's what the card is. The indicator field says CCL on it. Neat. TODAY 02/22 I received another letter in the mail from the ISP with another card in it. It is a brand new FOID card. It does not have a CCL indicator on it. The indicator field just has a Y in that section. The letter specifically says that this card does not authorize the carrying of a concealed weapon. The cards are identical except for 3 things Indicator being either Y or CCL The AL number between my FOID number and the indicator The red text at the bottom. One says "CAUTION: This card does not permit bearer to UNLAWFULLY carry or use firearms. This does not authorize the carrying of a concealed weapon." the other says "CAUTION: This card does not permit bearer to UNLAWFULLY carry or user firearms". They still use the picture from your driver's license I can tell because it's the same horrible picture I took last year when I got my motorcycle endorsement. So... Was this an error? Did they mean to send me one card or two? Did the people who received a card with the Y indicator while waiting for their new CCL simply get a new FOID and their CCL is still lost in transit somewhere?
  3. The ISP is now publicizing a web page to validate "FOID Numbers". Per the web page (https://verify.ispfsb.com/Public/Verify.aspx): "This system is for the sole purpose of determining the validity of a FOID card in compliance with the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act (“FOID Act”), 430 ILCS 65/1 et seq. for private firearm and ammunition transfers." What this page will allow an individual (or business) to do, is to enter in the FOID ID (and a birthdate) and this will determine if the FOID card is valid. So for people with the "new" FOID card (without an expiration date), an individual can now validate the FOID number. With this web page, now instead of the "old process" of just viewing the FOID card for a valid date, a person selling ammunition must now look up the FOID number on the ISP web site. I am not sure if this process is in complete alignment with Director Kelly stated goal - "Our goal has been and continues to be to make sure it is easier for the good guys and hard for the bad guys and we're making progress towards that mission,"
  4. In a recent review of the ISP Average time processing dashboard, the ISP has added viewable data to the dashboard. The dashboard now shows data for average processing times (FOID, CCL new, and FTIP) going back one year. Previously, data was only shown going back one month. The dashboard (and a graph) can be viewed at https://isp.illinois.gov/Foid. It is rather refreshing that the ISP is being a "tad more" transparent with its performance.
  5. The Auditor General released the findings of its review of the Illinois State Police FOID/ CCL processing for 2018-2019. (https://www.auditor.illinois.gov/Audit-Reports/Performance-Audits.asp) Key Findings: The current Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card and Concealed Carry License (CCL) application processes are labor intensive with some steps being completed multiple times for the same application. Overall, very few FOID or CCL applications were denied. The number of FOID and CCL applications increased substantially from 2018 to 2019 driven by an increase in renewal applications. The timeliness of processing FOID and CCL applications decreased significantly from 2018 to 2019. There were a total of 19,275 FOID cards revoked during 2018 and 2019. The most common prohibitor categories were for mental health and Order of Protection/Restraining Order. There were a total of 9,566 Concealed Carry Licenses revoked during 2018 and 2019. The most common prohibitor was Inactive FOID Card at 81.5 percent of all prohibitors. Recommendations: The Illinois State Police should seek to reduce manual verifications and checks of applicant information, reduce multiple and overlapping checks, and seek legislative remedies, if necessary, in order to increase the efficiency of the FOID and CCL application processes. The Illinois State Police should ensure that all FOID and CCL applications are approved or denied within the required statutory timeframes. The Illinois State Police should ensure that Sheriffs are notified of revocations as is required by the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and continue to work with local law enforcement agencies to ensure revoked FOID cards and Concealed Carry Licenses are returned to the Department in accordance with the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act and the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. The Illinois State Police should consider including enforcement details in its procedures to ensure consistency among zones. The Illinois State Police should- establish a case management system for tracking appeals; and update its administrative rules to reflect the current appeals process. The Illinois State Police should update its administrative rules to reflect the current process for determining issuance date and expiration date. More details on Findings and Recommendations: Key Findings: The current Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card and Concealed Carry License (CCL) application processes are labor intensive with some steps being completed multiple times for the same application. While some checks, such as those for mental health, are run daily by data match, others, such as checking for matching information with the Illinois Secretary of State, are completed manually by an Illinois State Police Firearms Eligibility Analyst. There is also significant overlap between the FOID and CCL application processes as they contain many of the same steps. Further, the new and renewal application processes also contain similar steps. According to Illinois State Police (Department) officials, there are over 40 steps an application must go through before an eligibility determination is made. These steps include both electronic and manual checks to confirm information and determine eligibility. If a match/hit is identified that may prohibit an applicant from possessing a FOID card or CCL, a Firearms Eligibility Analyst must manually resolve the issue. Having a process that relies heavily on Firearms Eligibility Analysts manually completing steps that could be conducted via an electronic matching process is inefficient and vulnerable to potential mistakes or oversights. Manually verifying information that could be automated slows the time it takes to process applications. The number of FOID and CCL applications increased substantially from 2018 to 2019 driven by an increase in renewal applications. - FOID applications received increased from 266,836 in 2018 to 306,217 in 2019 or 14.8 percent. - FOID renewal applications increased from 106,862 in 2018 to 146,912 in 2019 or 37.5 percent. - CCL applications increased from 58,669 in 2018 to 104,049 in 2019 or 77.3 percent. - CCL renewal applications increased from 6,341 in 2018 to 61,253 in 2019 or 866.0 percent. Overall, very few FOID or CCL applications were denied. For applications received during the two-year period 2018-2019, there were 20,642 FOID applications denied (3.6%). The most common reasons for denial were felony convictions (26.5%), mental health matters (20.3%), and crimes punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year (18.1%). For the same period, there were 2,438 CCL applications denied (1.5%). The most common reasons for denial were danger to self or others (45.5%) and not having a valid FOID card (30.4%). The timeliness of processing FOID and CCL applications decreased significantly from 2018 to 2019. Overall, 79.5 percent of FOID applications received during the two-year period were processed within the statutorily required timeframes. However, the percentage of FOID applications processed within statutorily required timeframes dropped from 87.1 percent in 2018 to 72.9 percent in 2019. For Concealed Carry Licenses, overall 64.5 percent of applications submitted in 2018 and 2019 were processed within the statutorily required timeframes. However, the percentage of applications that were processed timely dropped from 93.4 percent in 2018 to only 48.2 percent of applications submitted in 2019. The increase in the number of applications that were not processed timely was due primarily to the applications not being started in a timely manner. - In 2018, there was an average 15 day delay to begin processing a FOID application which increased to 22 days in 2019. - For FOID renewals in 2018, there was an average 19 day delay to begin processing the renewal which increased to 46 business days in 2019. There were a total of 19,275 FOID cards revoked during 2018 and 2019. The most common prohibitor categories were for mental health and Order of Protection/Restraining Order. The majority of revoked FOID cards are not returned to the Department as is required and a Firearm Disposition Record showing that the weapons had been transferred to someone else was filed in only about one-third of cases. The percentage of revoked FOID cards that were returned to the Department was 44.8 percent in 2018 and 45.8 percent in 2019. There were a total of 9,566 Concealed Carry Licenses revoked during 2018 and 2019. The most common prohibitor was Inactive FOID Card at 81.5 percent of all prohibitors. The percentage of licenses returned dropped from 22.4 percent in 2018 to 14.4 percent in 2019. Key Recommendations: The audit report contains six recommendations directed to the Illinois State Police including: • The Illinois State Police should seek to reduce manual verifications and checks of applicant information, reduce multiple and overlapping checks, and seek legislative remedies, if necessary, in order to increase the efficiency of the FOID and CCL application processes. •The Illinois State Police should ensure that all FOID and CCL applications are approved or denied within the required statutory timeframes. • The Illinois State Police should: - Ensure that Sheriffs are notified of revocations as is required by the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and - Continue to work with local law enforcement agencies to ensure revoked FOID cards and Concealed Carry Licenses are returned to the Department in accordance with the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act and the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. • The Illinois State Police should consider including enforcement details in its procedures to ensure consistency among zones. • The Illinois State Police should: - Establish a case management system for tracking appeals; and - Update its administrative rules to reflect the current appeals process. • The Illinois State Police should update its administrative rules to reflect the current process for determining issuance date and expiration date.
  6. I applied on June 23, 2020. Now on my 258th day waiting. WTH?? Any remedies?
  7. I applied for my foid around the beginning of April 2021 and I'm still under review in mid August2021. Why is it taking so long to get approved when I know several people who've applied the same month they got approved?
  8. First time FOID card applicant stuck for 8 months with no information. Applied in Oct 2020 but still "Under Review"
  9. Well, ISP is taking it right up to the 30-day deadline for my FOID application (new, not a renewal). That got me wondering -- what happens if they go another four days without taking action? Is there relief available? Has anyone experienced this and taken them to court or applied for other relief?
  10. Good Evening, I know that this has been covered a lot of times on this forum, however I just want to make sure that i'm covering all bases before going down the road of an appeal. I'm new here, so please go easy on me if i'm repeating any questions you have answered before. I won't go into too much detail to bore everyone, but I surrendered my FOID card almost three years ago due to a voluntary psychiatric check in (drunk Saturday and ended up getting put in a psychiatric ward for the weekend). Had there been a doctor on call on the weekend I would have been released sooner, but I was back home on the Tuesday. I can ofcourse go into more detail if needed to aid with the appeal process on here. No previous history of any mental issues and none since. Honestly, it was a silly mistake and I had no idea that a psychiatric warn check in was even a possibility. My question is that I have seen lots of appeal posts similar to this, but I wanted to be sure before I go down the path of an appeal that I have it correct. Again, please forgive me for posting this again as I know this has been covered numerous times on the forums. I have noticed that Molly seems to be the go to on this, so if Molly can PM me with ANY help on this, that would be much appreciated. In terms of the forms that need to be completed, I am hoping my questions below make sense. Request For FOID Appeal Form- When I fill out the form to describe my appeal, should I consult with an attorney first, or just complete the form explaining the situation my self? When describing the reason for my appeal, is there anything I should note that legally assists with my appeal. Does anyone have experience with a successful appeal in a similar situation who can assist with content for this? I noted that a "Psychiatrist or Licensed Clinical Psychologist’s Evaluation or Letter Requirement" is required. Does anyone recommend a Psychiatrist to see who specializes in these sorts of cases in the Chicagoland area? Please PM me any Psychiatrists that you have worked with in the past and maybe an example of your case so I know who to go and see. The waiver investigation form seems straightforward enough. Sign and date and ensure the case is seen to within the year. As mentioned, I have no previous history of mental issues so I have never seen a Dr before or been on medication. So the psychiatric records would only be when I was checked into the hospital? Do I go to the hospital to get those records? I assume I include my discharge information? Please let me know if i'm forgetting anything, but ANY help on this would be much appreciated folks. Thank you.
  11. Hi everyone, I am 20 years old and I have completed deferred adjudication regarding a Poss. of marijuana and Paraphernalia charge I picked up in Texas. The disposition of the charges is "dismissed". I plan to attempt to get this expunged anyways, but... 1) If I submitted an FOID application right now, do you think I would be denied, since I was never officially convicted? 2) If I am denied, once I turn 21, since the charges will then be irrelevant (since they're only misdemeanors, and the under 21 with a misdemeanor stipulation won't apply anymore),could I then just submit a new application, or would I have to go through the appeals process? Hopefully I could just submit another application. Thanks.
  12. Hi all, I have a couple of questions that I haven't been able to answer by looking online. I am moving to California for a year and will be leaving my firearms with family members (who have valid FOIDs). Obviously, I won't be able to take certain firearms to California and wish to keep them in Illinois. Does my FOID become invalid if I live outside of Illinois for around a year? Do I have to notify someone about the residency change? Is it possible to keep my FOID valid when I am away for that period? Can I store them with family members who possess a FOID? Thanks in advance!
  13. So Backstory. My CCL went active today 5/13/19 (Applied Jan 10. 2019, No Prints so 123 days in case anyone is waiting and trying to judge their wait time) I've had my FOID for about 6 years and the one I still have in hand is the older one with the drawing of the state and the light reflective colorful eagle on the bottom right corner. That FOID number doesn't match with the one on the ISP login. It's a new number, and it changed not after I was approved, but after I went Active. It's a significantly longer number and it matches my new CCL number. Does this mean that I can't buy new firearms, ammo, go to a range, or bring a weapon outside my home even if it is cased an unloaded, until the new CCL comes in? (Sure maybe go to a range since they don't seem to check anything online, but say for whatever reason I got involved in a car accident or something similar and the police see firearms and ask for a FOID card) Will they send me a replacement FOID when I get the new CCL and if not can I use the CCL as a FOID, or do I need to replace/renew it myself? I will also be leaving the state to visit Tennessee, with family members who have valid FOID cards, and even if the CCL is also sent with a new FOID, I will probably not be home at the time of delivery. I know Illinois is one of the only states to have FOIDs or something similar, but do other states expect you to bring yours from your home state if you're visiting? I know Tennessee honors Illinois CCL permits, but does anyone know if Tennessee CCL holders must have the license present on their person while carrying? I'm wondering that in the event that Tennessee CCL holders need not carry their permit on them while carrying a firearm, would they extent that same rule to Illinois CCL holders visiting the state?
  14. I was wondering would I be able to go into a gun shop with my mom and purchase a handgun at 17 with my FOID card and with my mom who is my sponser for my FOID? Would it be acceptable since im with my parent who co-signed for my FOID, but doesnt have a FOID for herself? Or would my mom also have to apply for her own FOID card for me to acquire a handgun with her? I know you have to be 21+ to purchase a handgun, but it that also for FOID card holders at 17/18 years of age?
  15. Ive applied for my FOID card a while ago but got denied twice 2x for Failure to sign/notarize Guardian Sponsorship Affadavit. As I am underaged and would need my moms permission/ signature on an pdf form for the online application. On the online form though, my mom has signed her printed name, signature, date, and application number on the opened tabs for the pdf. But I keep getting denied for that exact reason, ive been trying to reach ISPFSB through the phone with no success, what should I do? Below is the signed pdf
  16. My girlfriend's mother came over yesterday with her FOID. On the card, it shows that it expires in 2022, but she received a letter from ISP saying she needs to renew by March this year. She's tried to call ISP, but couldn't get a human on the phone. Does anyone know why they would be telling her to renew early? Would have anything to do with them giving out new FOIDs to people who renew their CCL? Thanks.
  17. Hey guys, do we have to renew an expiring FOID card if we already have a valid CCL which doesn't expire for years?
  18. Recently I discovered my foid card lost but still have my ccl. I panicked and went online to try to report it lost but then I stopped entering information and went to look for it and forgot i was logged in then came back and it logged me out and when i tried re-logging back in it said under foid incomplete and no longer it said actice.but my ccl still shows active. Why is this? And by the way no luck finding my foid card. What should i do? Can i carry without a foid? Will i have to pay for a ccl replacement because of my foid being lost? Help plz
  19. I was just curious a while a go (1.5 months ago) I posted about what I needed to send to the ISP for foid card appeal. I sent in both the mental assessment for >5 years ago and the appeal and liability and investigation forms. I called the ISP and they said it was "under review". I went to log in and check my application that is under review and it doesn't reflect it when I logiin only shows denied? My onlu other question is how long do they review it. Is it one of those things you have to be patient with and sit this one out. Just curious
  20. A little info on my situation: When I was 21 I got drunk one night and my sister called the cops and I went to the hospital to detox and I told the Dr I was going to hurt myself. I went through a lot of hard times especially after my mom committed suicide. (She jumped in front of truck on a highway while I was walking alongside her). Well fast forward to now 4/5/18 I applied for FOID on line through the IL State Police site and I was denied for "voluntary mental health admission" in 10/3/2011 . I got a degree in criminology and I'm looking to work in law enforcement so a FOID card is needed. I went to my doctor that is certified in IL and he mailed in the mental health certification to the ISP address. I mailed the FOID appeals and liability and investigation docs to ISP. I checked online and it still states "denied" Now my question is it's been 6.5 years or so do I also need a letter from a psychiatrist and all those notarized letters outlined in the mental health guideline sheet or is all that paperwork only required for <5 years ago for mental health admission? Sorry if this question has been asked already. I have called the ISP and I can never get through.
  21. New here to this awesome forum. I've been reading a lot of stories on here. I'm hoping someone can nudge me in the right direction here. I was denied a FOID card because of a felony burglary conviction. It's from 1994 (over 20 years), when I was 17 years old (charged as an adult). I appealed to the ISP but was informed that because it was considered a "forcible felony", I would have to petition the circuit court in my jurisdiction (Will County) for a hearing. I've been searching, but cannot find out how to start this process myself. Do I just walk into the clerks office and say I want to file a petition for hearing to restore my firearm rights? I know clerks can't offer legal advice, and therefore aren't very helpful when it comes to providing information. I'm really hoping to be able to do this without an attorney. We are moving out of state soon, and it will be a stretch to afford both the move and hiring an attorney for this. But I would like to obtain my FOID prior to moving in hopes that it will make the process of being licensed in my new state will be that much easier. I have already contacted the Parole Board in Georgia (where we are moving to) about having my gun rights restored there, and I am hopeful that even without obtaining a FOID here, I will be able to obtain one in GA. Can anybody help me as to where to begin? If any other information would be helpful, I can provide it. Just let me know. Thanks!
  22. Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum. However, I have been reading posts off and on here for sometime. I decided to finally make an account. I just applied for my FOID card 3 days ago on my 21st birthday. It appears that they processed my payment either sometime yesterday or sometime today as I now have an application number in addition to a FOID number when I log into their site. Hopefully this is a signal of the FOID process moving along in a timely fashion. I did notice some few strange things when checking up on my application today. Now that they issued me an application number after processing my payment, I have been able to click links to edit my name, address, etc. I noticed that when I clicked on my name, the ISP has added a Maiden Name which is listed as my current name. I am a male, and this is my "original" last name that I've had since birth. I definitely didn't type anything into this field when I applied. So I went ahead and removed it and a message came up saying the submitted date on my application has changed to the current date of when I changed this information. I was wondering if any of you experienced anything like this? I also clicked the link for my address (which was correct) and I noticed it was asking for the past 10 years of residencies. I went ahead and filled out my last few addresses that made up more than 10 years and the same message came up on my screen. I hope this doesn't reset the 30 day period of waiting. If it did, it's not too big of a deal as I only applied 3 days ago but any delay still isn't preferred. Also, does anyone have an idea of what the current wait times might be? I previously lived in a state that didn't have any sort of firearm permit so this is slightly new to me as someone who will be a firearm owner for the first time. I would appreciate some input. Thanks!
  23. I need help with the medical appeal process. This was the first time i applied for the card i live near Oswego area and my FOID was deined due to Medical reasoning....I was admitted to a facility because i was dumb and stupid 7 years ago and didn't know what i was doing there hasn't been anything else on my records no arrest no charges....what should i be doing to get my rights restored, any of f you know a physician, clinical psycologist, or a qualified examiner Below is the letter i recieved "Your application for a firearm owner's identification (FOID) card has been denied. You are prohibited from firearms for reasons listed below and pursuant to: 430 ILCS 65/8 (U) - A person who has had his or her FOID card revoked or denied under subsection (e) of 430 ILCS 65/8 or item (iv) of section 4 of the FOID act because he or she was a patient in a mental health facility, shall not be premitted to obtain FOID, after the 5 year period has lapsed, unless he or she has recieved a mental health evaluation by physician, clinical psycologist, or a qualified examiner and has recieved a certification that he or she is not a clear and present danger to himself, herself and others MENTAL HEALTH ADMISSIONS OVER 5 YEARS 5/19/2010 DUPAGE COUNTY, IL for additional infomation please call ........."
  24. New user here! Apologies if I format incorrectly Got denied for my FOID because "Submitted address information does not match Illinois Drivers License/ID Card Information" So the last ten years I've moved quite a bit, never out of state or even out of Chicago. Just had different apartments with roommates. The reason says the address didn't match my ID/DL, in which I've only had three "legal" addresses in that regard. I just resubmitted with only those three. Does anyone have any experience on this matter?
  25. Can a minor (16) be in sole possession of ammunition if that minor is also in possession of his or her own FOID card? For example... A minor child borrows a parent's car (with no parent or guardian present).The child gets stopped & searched.The LEO discovers a loaded spare magazine in the glove box (no firearm, just a loaded magazine). Is that an offense?
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