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  1. In other words, what people have said for years.  People who are going to do things have no regard for laws, and laws probably would not have stopped the shooter from getting a gun as they would have likely gotten one from the street.  


    Interestingly if you look up about 3d printed guns, I saw something on youtube once, and apparently people have competitions with 3d printed guns.  I'd be willing to guess if they ever banned guns that a cottage industry would spring up, and people who are criminals would be able to access them still.  

  2. I paid 11 for my foid, then 150 for my ccw class, then 153 to the state for applying for ccl(haven’t been approved yet).


     But you figure, 311 bucks plus the price of firearms, say 250-300 each for decent budget handguns, plus ammunition.  So probably close to $1000 just to do that and probably have their gun rights taken away for life, or at least a long time, and probably a long time to get them back if they ever can.

  3. I was listening to the radio on the way to work today, and they were talking about this, the NRA I guess is involved and said they are going to argue that the way NY's process is clearly violates the 2nd Amendment.  So their argument from what I remember was going to be that they need to rule in favor of allowing people the right to bear arms, because otherwise, if you don't uphold the one amendment, then basically you'd weaken the other amendments as well.  Can't remember the exact wording, but it seemed to be to that effect.  

  4. I say don't go looking for trouble.  In that situation, call the cops and let them do their thing.  Now if the guy is about to kill the lady, maybe you think differently there? 


    Not related to this story, I know I drive in St. Louis traffic a bit, and ppl pass you with no signals, cut ppl off etc.  I just set my cruise and go along, if I see where someone is acting weird, I just try to stay away from them.  In other words, I just try to keep my nose clean and stay away from people that would do me harm.  I don't have a ccw yet, so obviously packing isn't an option, but even if I did, my inclination is that using a ccw weapon is only a last resort where I'm potentially cornered and have no other option, or my family is in danger.  I hope that I NEVER EVER have to use that ccw once I get one, but again, it would be only a last resort, seems to be the safest bet all around.  For example, that story above, what if the husband had snapped and picked up the guy's gun?  That story could have potentially become a triple homicide.  

  5. Personally, I know some folks who are black, fine people. I believe if you are white, black, whatever color, you have all the rights in the US Constitution.


    However, I was taught that my rights end where your nose begins. In other words, you have the right to protest and say what you wish, but not to hurry or threaten others. I think black gun owners have the same rights we do, and I think there should be more of them.


    It would not be a bad idea for all of us to get more training for safety though.

  6. I saw something claiming one of the guys at the rally supposedly was claiming the time would come when they would kill anything white that moved. I’m all for everyone having access to the 2nd amendment. However, don’t threaten people. My opinion, they need to remember the thousands and thousands of men on the union side from the civil war who died so they could have a chance for freedom. I’m no better than anyone in the least, but my family and I have had to work for what we have. I know what it’s like to have to work extra to make ends meet because I’ve been there.


    I will say however, I can see how people who feel like they don’t have much would feel like the system is against them. Sometimes in this country it does feel like politicians do whatever they want, and that people who are rich keep getting richer, and that for the common people to get ahead is harder. I’m not one of those people but if I’m trying to see both sides I could see why people feel that way. However, if I look back, most of my issues including financially were a result of my own mistakes. It seems like instead of taking responsibility these days people want to point fingers at others instead of taking care of their own house. The promise of America isn’t that you will succeed, it is that you are given a chance to succeed. People forget that sometimes.

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