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  1. Hey everyone, This entry is geared toward those who have been admitted into a mental institution >5 years ago and want to do the standard appeal to get their FOID/CCL. As you know, Illinois is SHALL ISSUE for FOID cards, so if you were an inpatient for mental treatment >5 years ago, you are required to send in your appeal forms (after being denied the FOID) and have a psychiatrist send in a mental health certification form on your behalf. If the ISP receives these items and validates them, you are legally entitled to getting your FOID card. I was admitted in June 2015 as an emergency admission (by local authorities). ISP considered it an involuntary admission, even though it technically wasn't. Fast forward to June 2020 and I sent in all my paperwork and my psychiatrist sent in that mental health certification form. 1 year later, in June 2021, I still hadn't received my FOID. Thanks to Molly B.'s advice, I sent a letter to the Director of ISP requesting a hearing since they hadn't responded to my inquiry within 30 days. 1 week later I got my FOID card in the mail. I finished my CCL class on 8/17/21 and submitted my application (with fingerprints). CCL went from "under review" to "active" on 11/09/21. Just goes to show that even with a past mental health admission, getting your FOID/CCL is still possible (as it should be). It's worth noting that I have never been arrested either, so that helped. Don't give up!
  2. Thanks a lot Euler and Molly! Is it fair to assume that once my doc has sent in the form clearing me that it will take 6+ months to process and send me my FOID? Would applying for CCL a few months after he sends that in expedite the process at all by calling attention to my case?
  3. So, whether voluntary or involuntary, ISP has you go through the same appeals process for mental health admissions. Best bet for involuntary admissions is to wait the 5 years. But after waiting 5 years and sending in paperwork from your psych doctor that youre good to go, suppose ISP just approves your FOID....can you buy a gun, or are you still banned under federal law? I did some research on this and from what I understand, you are no longer banned under federal law because NICS has appointed ISP as the point of contact for dealing with involuntary appeals. Plus, it wouldnt make sense to me that Illinois would issue a FOiD card to someone who is federally prohibited. Molly, can you verify this please?
  4. Ok, so you’re saying that even though it was an involuntary admission, after 5 years all I need is that doctor endorsement form and I’m good to go? Why then, did my denial letter include 2 criteria by which I was denied. It was being in a psych ward within past 5 years, and also listed separately as an involuntary admission, as if to indicate that even after 5 years this would be an issue.
  5. Hi All, I'll try to make this as concise as possible: 4 years ago I was in a psych ward for a couple of days, so I knew when I applied for my FOID just 2 weeks ago that I'd be denied; I just wanted to make sure it was classified as voluntary, which it was not. 4 years ago I was admitted as an emergency admission from the Orland Park PD. I took my father's firearm and went to a parking lot in my car one night debating suicide. I ended up calling a friend of mine to say goodbye. I didn't end up using the gun obviously, but when I returned home the police were waiting for me and admitted me with a petition for involuntary commitment. Thing is, they petitioned for it and only got 1 certificate. There was never a court date, or at least I was never informed of one. Not only that, despite the circumstances, the hospital gave me an application for voluntary admission, which I signed. The hospital signed it, too. The facility director of the hospital was also my psychiatrist and he assures me he did not put in an order for involuntary admission. So, i recently sent the ISP a copy of that voluntary admission for and asked them to correct the record and change it to voluntary. But am I getting this right? What is it that actually constitutes a formal involuntary admission in Illinois? All research seems to point to a future court date, which didn't exist. Further, on the NICS website it says that voluntary admissions and emergency admissions for observation don't count as involuntary... What do you believe will be the outcome? And if it ends up remaining involuntary, my doc will sign off for me if I appeal, but what other "ammo" can I gather to support my case? Certainly, I am much, much better than i was 4 years ago.
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