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Of all the events that have happened in Springfield over the last several years ISRA has chosen this one to be proactive about? I found it in my inbox this morning and immediately began to wonder why, after years of insubstantial information and fund raising, this legislation is of interest to them. What table are they trying to wangle a seat it this time?

The commentary relating to the same story on Gunssavelife.com is interesting. It seems some shooters are disenchanted with Igold. Hum……

Sounds like ISP will need another billion or so to hire someone’s brother in law to fix this. No doubt that within 10 years they’ll need to add fees to the registration scheme to shore up all the problems left by the Chinese software bought by the brother in law and to fund the retirement accounts for the party members hired for their skill and computer expertise. Can’t wait until the data stolen.

Wow! Now there’s political leadership. Once this guy sold his soul to socialism all he can do is yell, “me too!”. Thank God he’s not on our side.

Can’t wait to read the definitions. This will be good.

Thank you once again for your leadership in these matters. If it wasn’t for you, Molly, and this site we’d all be mushrooms still in the dark waiting to be picked.

It shall be interesting to see what shops have the hutzpah to start selling the formally “banned” items again. We’ll need to remember them for the future.

I just want to advise everyone who may wish to order a gun from RK Guns that the company is stopping anyone with an Illinois zip code from using their online ordering system. I wanted to buy a .22 bolt action rifle today that had been advertised via email, but when I ordered it I was stopped because of my zip code. I then called to order it and was told the order still cannot be filled because I’m in Illinois. Nothing that I said would make any difference. I could only by the gun directly from the store, if they had it, which they did not. Even though all RKG is doing is shipping to a dealer, they still refuse to allow me to order it. I called their corporate office in Mattoon and was told the same thing. Their customer service supervisor was not interested in hearing complaints. After having purchased a number of guns from RKG using their online ordering system I can’t help but be insulted by their current business practice. if you’re thinking about a new gun you’ll have to go to one of their stores to buy it. If they have it.

My thanks to everyone who discovered a workaround. I’m a computer Luddite and need things really simplified for me. I’m not quite sure which necessary evil is worse, government or the computer.

I hate showing how naive I am, but does ISP have the ability to request anything in this matter? I would have presumed that AG represents the state in legal matters and not the police.

It is obvious to everyone that it’s time for a leader change at ISRA. My worry is who will be the replacement. Perhaps the change needs to be deeper than just the top. But, I know of at least one other person who, it appears, has some influence in the organization that I wouldn’t trust. I can only assume there are others. When is the next annual meeting where lowly members might meet and express their dissatisfaction?

This reads that you could not give ammo to a friend or as a gift to a relative.

Does anyone know anything about this new proposal?

We can never overcome our adversaries if we believe they’ve already won the fight. Believing they hold an insurmountable advantage only stops people from trying. Look for their weaknesses and use them against them. Do not surrender before the fight starts.

Please let me clarify. It really doesn’t matter if they care about being hypocritical. What matters is how the voting public perceives them. Use their hypocrisy against them and develop a sense of distrust of them in the minds of voters. It is a political tool we can use to destabilize those who oppose the liberty of the common man. Regaining our freedom is going to be slower than many of us think. We need to use every advantage we my find in the long fight ahead of us. Even if a court rules against the state it will take decades to preserve what we might win. This, as it was centuries ago, is a never ending battle. Complacency and compromise got us here, let it never happen again. Shrugging our shoulders and ruminating our laments about what happened won’t get us anywhere. We have an uphill battle ahead of us. Use every tool we have to win.

If that be the case its important that it becomes open knowledge and not allowed to die in a liberal media. Use their hypocrisy against them at every opportunity. Use it in court to show disparity.

The sheriffs haven’t done anything yet. JaBa is reacting to political opposition. He just doesn’t like what they said publicly. To find a reason to go after a sheriff will be difficult. There must be evidence they committed some form of willful malfeasance in office, some form of official misconduct. But, supposed a sheriff was deposed by the Governor. What might happen then? Who will police the county? Who will be in charge? ISP has limited resources. They can’t seem to enforce speeding on the interstate let alone a county. What deputy would cooperate? Or, would JaBa use the National Guard? What problems might that might cause? The mind boggles at how military enforcement of civil law could be portrayed.

It will be interesting to see how the Cook County State’s Attorney prosecutes those charged with violations of the law. She doesn’t have a record of record of being very demanding of heavy penalties. My best guess is that her lack of interest will continue and becomes her own form of refusing to prosecute. But, it shall go unreported by media and ignored by the left and JaBa.

What the corpulent comrade fails to believe is that police in Illinois have discretion in enforcement of law. Be it whether or not to issue a traffic ticket or if a law is obviously unconstitutional. There are serious crimes where their discretion is far less, but not with the “average” citizen interaction. JaBa, as a good leftist, wants police robots that simply do as they are told.

Everything stated so far is cogent and valid. From these things we need to develop marketing strategies that will counter the emotional rhetoric of those who oppose us. The media and leftists portray us as blubbering sexist and racist wackos in pickup trucks or super right flag wavers who want the country to return to 1950. It’s time we develop our image to compliment a sound strategy for the future. This may leave a bad taste for some on our side, but change is needed. The cost of doing what we’ve been doing, and coming up short, is too great. We need to recognize that just telling your elected official of your position is not enough. We need one organization with one mission, with one strategy, and one pool of funds. Our diffused approach is not working. We need to create strong, pointed, political power that can be brought to bear as needed. Because the political landscape has changed in Illinois, If we don’t change we’ll always be at the mercy of a court to bail us out. We need to shape the political landscape not react to it.

Well....bye!

Wow! JaBa the Putz is upset! My, my. When will this corpulent and corrupt politician from the patrician class learn that he is not the dictator, but rather the housekeeper. When someone’s biggest claim to fame is pulling toilets from their mansion to avoid paying property taxes they need to understand that they’ve lost all the moral authority that they assume they had.

I concur. By letting them know they have alienated a sizable and vocal portion of the electorate it will present them problems they never assumed. Let them be concerned with civil disobedience in whatever form that might take. Let them be worried about facing state and Federal litigation. Let them consider that our vocal dissent could spread to other issues they prefer not to discuss. Allow the “spinning wheels” to make smoke and foul smells that attracts attention. Let them worry about the growing fissure they created between the northeast and the rest of the state.