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  1. Actually my friend already has them. We transfered them to her back in February. But she's a nervous old lady who's worried about getting into trouble. Her concern is: if it's not legal for me to have a gun in illinois, then she won't give them back to me since her FOID number is on the transfer form.
  2. If my FOID is revoked, then my 2nd amendment right is revoked too but only in Illinois so it would be illegal for me to take custody of my guns. Yet I need to find out if a nonresident doesn't need to FOID to get a gun in Illinois, where does that leave me?
  3. I was not committed nor taken to the hospital involuntarily, I never did inpatient, I was never charged nor arrested nor subject to any judicial action. So I'm bit confused when you say that I will have a court hearing. I appealed to the ISP and had a psychiatrist and therapist write letters on my behalf. I just checked and my FOID is still "revoked." I think my appeal is still sitting on the desk waiting to be reviewed. But even if my appeal succeeds, I don't think I'm eligible for a FOID since I'm no longer an Illinois resident. I actually live in Virginia and work the federal government and I passed my security clearance but I don't have any second amendment rights in Illinois so I cannot get my guns back. My guns are being looked after by a friend who doesn't want to give me until she knows it's legal for me to take possession of them. So I'm still waiting for my appeal to get reviewed.
  4. If I didn't go voluntarily, then could I have been taken into custody for "my own safety" and perhaps charged with disobeying a lawful order or whatever else there is. I never gave them permission to search my house, I only told them the location of the guns. I felt I was acting morally but the law isn't always moral. I agree it's a lesson and some lessons are learned the hard way. In fact, I probably did everyone a favor by being an example of what not to do. Anyway, I think it's pretty much agreed that I screwed up but am I screwed for the long haul? The question is: is there a good chance an appeal will succeed? If you guys believe it won't, then I can save myself the effort. Or, what can be done to increase the odds that an appeal will be successful? Then again, if I move out of state, is an appeal even necessary? It would be ​if​ the incident is reported on a federal level or shared with other states. But I have no knowledge how that works.
  5. When I turned in the form to transfer my property to a friend, the police apologized for taking my guns and said I'm a nice guy but they have to follow procedure. I think the lesson is: always stay in control. Doesn't matter what the situation, getting emotional serves no purpose. ​​So you're saying don't cooperate with the police? I thought about not opening my door but I rent and they could always get the landlord to open it. I thought a good citizen cooperates with the law. Let the cops do their job even if they aren't dong it right. Don't argue with them; the court room is the place to argue. Don't forget that they're human too. Heck, when I went to turn in the form, the officer and his supervisor both apologized for what happened and said they know I'm a nice guy but they were only following procedure. I blame myself for losing control over the phone that was the catalyst. All of my property has been transferred to a friend with a FOID so that's a load off my mind and that process turned into a piece of cake. I can wait a couple of months. But I really didn't want pay a lawyer's high fees to do the appeal for me but a lawyer knows how to navigate the system a lot quicker than I can. Even though I don't have a criminal record and no other issues affecting my FOID, I passed background checks for IDOC and the state board of education, I'm not in debit, and despite that I can get a lot of letters (even from doctors) saying I'm a good guy, they can always disprove my appeal for no reason at all, right? I just had a job interview in Texas so I'm wondering If they disprove my appeal or if I don't appeal but move to another state, does that mean I'm not eligible to own or handle a firearm in a state outside of Illinois? I mean, say I move to Texas or even Vermont, try to buy a gun or even ammo, would I be denied because of what happened in Illinois? Or does it stay only in the state system?
  6. I think they sent me the wrong Appeal Requirements form, they sent me the one for non-Mental Health. According to the letter they sent, the prohibitor is "clear and present danger" and the instructions say I am to use the FOID Appeal Requirements-Mental Health. I guess they weren't paying attention about which form they were mailing out? Or, should I not question it?
  7. The form referenced I believe comes from ISP once your FOID is revoked and requires turning in card at local PD and listing description and disposition of each firearm. If you can get them released now to someone with a FOID, I would look into that for the time being. Range gear...like? why would they take that and while never in that position, no receipts seems strange to me. I had ammo in my range bag, along with cleaning kit, eye protection, tools, etc. The police decided it was easier to put my guns in the bag and use it for transport. Just got the letter from ISP today. My FOID is officially revoked and I need to turn in my card within 48 hours of getting the letter as well fill out a Firearm Disposition Record disclosing make, model, serial number of each firearm. Uh, I think that list was in my range bag. I doubt it can fill out that form tomorrow at the PD station since their business office doesn't open until Monday and Monday I'm heading out-of-state for a job interview. The ISP was kind enough to include instructions on an appeal. I think I may have to hire a lawyer to do the grunt work for me seeing how ISP said I got 45 days to submit the supporting documentation for an appeal.
  8. First, I can get statements from psychiatrists, therapists, doctors, phds that attest I'm not a clear and present danger. Or is the ISP qualified to make that determination? If they thought I was a danger to myself, why didn't they take the kitchen knives or the gas oven for that matter? Second, instead of commenting on what has been done, can't we focus on solutions? Or like I said, am I screwed and can kiss goodbye not only my guns but also my range gear they took too? They put my guns in my range bag and took the whole thing. I'm more worried they destroy or auction off my property before I can reclaim it.
  9. Silly fake scenario? Then I guess having a millionaire reality show TV star for president who thought President Jackson's nickname was Stonewall is silly and fake too. My insurance company kept giving me contradictory information. I was on the phone with them literally all day. They had me calling other places to get info they should already had. The last rep was laughing and I felt like she wasn't taking my case or me seriously and that's when I blew it. When the police showed up, I was till really ticked off. If I had 15 minutes to cool out, everything would be fine. When they said I go could willingly or in handcuffs to the ER, I asked if I could get my keys, wallet and put my shoes on. I said they could come in to be sure that's all I'm going to do. I was cooled off by then and told them I was fine. They asked if I had any weapons, I told the truth. They asked where they were, I told the truth. They said they were taking them for safekeeping, I only said OK and asked for a receipt. They said I didn't need one. I asked when I'd get them back, and they said probably that night. After the ER, I called the police and the officer was done his shift so I came back the next day and that's when they filed the "clear and present danger." The Sgt said I'd probably be okay cause there's a lot worse "clear and present danger" cases. He said they could give my guns to someone with a FOID but not me. I got a friend to help out and called the police for the procedure and was told there's a new form they had to get from ISP and it takes about a week and they would call me. It's been a week and half and I heard nothing. I emailed the Sgt but didn't get a reply I think maybe he's off duty. In meantime, I shopped around for a lawyer. I really could care less about getting my 2nd amendment rights back in Illinois. I just want my property out of the policy's custody and in the custody of my friend. I'm trying to get out of Illinois!
  10. On the phone with customer service who kept giving me contradictory information and the runaround, I finally got upset and said I could just commit suicide and hung up on them. Police showed up and didn't give me much of a choice about going to the ER but they first seized my guns "for safekeeping" while refusing to let me do an inventory and refused to give me a receipt. ER doctor released me under five minutes, especially when I admitted I was angry and acted like a drama queen. Police filed "clear and present danger" on me and said it's up to the ISP to determine if I really am a clear and present danger. Despite I don't have a criminal record, and I'm a veteran and work part-time at an IDOC facility, I got the feeling I'm pretty much screwed and can kiss my guns goodbye despite the majority of them are family heirlooms. The police Sgt said they'll probably rule in my favor but I have no idea how long it'll take ISP to determine that I'm one of the good guys. Then again with the school shootings on the news, I feel they won't rule out Am I screwed or should I sit back and wait for ISP to make their ruling? Then again how long will it take them to do that? Or should I start the process to appeal? Or is it time to get a lawyer?
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