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  1. On 12/28/2023 at 11:36 PM, davel501 said:

    I'm still mad about gander mountain. 

    I'm still mad about Galyan's.  I bought my first gun there.  It was sad when they were bought by Dicks, and even worse when Dicks went full-on anti-gun.



    On 12/28/2023 at 10:59 PM, soundguy said:


    Cabela's was much better before Bass Pro bought them. Now they are the same.

    Both are still better than Dick's ever was.



    Yes, Cabela's was better.  Bass Pro is ok.  It's still pro-2a, but not as good of a user experience.

  2. On 1/31/2023 at 8:41 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said:


    Fox32 News Chicago is reporting that the TRO covers the entire state.  I believe Fox32 is incorrect.   




    I concur.


    I just read the entire Decision on the TRO, but don't see where it would apply to the entire state.  The important part is on page 38:  

    "However, for the reasons set forth above, we affirm the TRO issued for count IV".  So they affirm the same TRO, not expand it. 


    Am I missing something?


    Appeals are taking anywhere from 6 mos. to a couple years . . .

    Well that sucks. I’ll just give up on it I guess. Thanks for the reply.



    Or you could just move to the "long" game... Appeals take a long time, but people are winning them. If you keep this on your radar, gaining your rights back 2 years from now is certainly better than never... Of course, every individual circumstance is different, but if you're in the right, it's worth fighting!

  4. I just went through this yesterday myself. (actually the reason I joined The forum) we moved, so I updated my address on myFOID card. 6 weeks later I get the letter stating my Foid has been revoked. Immediately called my lawyer, he said he'll look into it. I too was convicted of a Class A reckless driving. But I DID NOT see that for the supervision I could not possess my weapons. Conviction was in Sept, letter came after updating address in March. So yes, I surrendered my foid card, filled out the firearms deposition and transferred my firearms to someone with a valid Foid all yesterday. This is a complete violation of my 2nd amendment right and Im feeling hopeless. Can't win with this state. attachicon.gif20190411_235329.jpgattachicon.gif20190413_113656.jpg


    Those supervision rules are insane for a traffic (or any other very minor non-violent) offence. They take away all your 2nd amendment rights. And you also need court approval to leave the state for 2 years? No vacations or other travel I guess. How did it get so crazy? Is this in Cook County, or in another county?


    Court supervision was no big deal in the past; it's the best thing to do with any speeding ticket. Just apply for "court supervision" for any speeding ticket, pay more money to the court, but don't impact your driving record. In the past, it was a checkbox on the ticket. (I'm assuming traffic school is similar to court supervision as they do the same thing...)

  5. Time to move back to Arizona. One question.Do they at least inform you one way or the other.Or just blow you off and put your appeal in the trash ?


    They should eventually inform you. But as noted by the OP, it sometime takes them more than a year to make a decision. A couple options available are to reach out to your State Representative (as they can help move the process along in some cases by an inquiry from their office), or also reach out to Molly B on this board. She has communication with the ISP and sometimes is able to assist IllioisCarry members in getting answers.

  6. This may sound ignorant, and I apologize in advance. But what are the advantages of getting a FOID for a person under the age of 18? They cannot purchase a gun or amo. They can’t shoot at a range by them selfs. Again. Sorry for the ignorance, just curios. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


    IMO, there are two advantages:

    1. Per the language in 720 ILCS 5/24-9(a) if your minor child has a FOID, that legal restriction doesn't apply. (Regarding firearm access: Of course you need to follow safe procedures anyway, but it's good to not have the severe legal penalty hanging over your head.)

    2. Using this process to get your child more interested in firearm rights.


    For me, it was mostly for the fun of it at this point. When my daughter is older, it'll actually matter more.

  7. I think Scipio24 already answered your questions. But I signed up my 3 year-old for a FOID this year. I had to call the ISP phone # and do a paper application, as the electronic one wasn't a viable option w/o state ID. However, it was no big deal to do it over the phone. The person I spoke with was helpful and they knew how the process works.


    The process was:

    1. Call ISP and provide information on minor over the phone

    2. They send you a pre-filled out paper application

    3. Attach photo and check. Send it.

    4. Get FOID in mail.


    I want to say the entire process took maybe 2-3 months or so from start to finish. A little longer, but not egregious.

  8. Good luck. Illinois does have some stupid gun laws, and Cook County has a well-deserved reputation as doing everything they can to deny 2nd amendment rights. Unfortunately they often use any excuse to mess with legal firearm holders to score political points. But overall, Illinois gun laws are still not nearly as bad as Canada's laws, so maybe it's not as bad as you think. :)


    Molly's suggestion of "store with a FFL" may be a viable option. But the best option is if you have a friend or family member who can store your firearms temporarily if you are denied FOID while you go through the appeal. Illinois State Police, who process the FOID, do try to be fair and they follow the law. So hopefully this worry is for nothing. Let us know what happens!

  9. From the facts you reported, I believe you have a very winnable case for FOID, but not a winnable case for CCW.


    The federal question is an interesting one. You probably should get the "state" situation cleaned up, to avoid possibility of running afoul of federal law if you move (https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/atf-p-5300-4pdf/download)

    922 Unlawful acts.
    (g) It shall be unlawful for any person
    (4) ... who has been committed to a mental institution;... to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

    It would really be a stretch, but it seems to be the same stretch the state is using...

    [EDIT]: On second thought, I don't see how they could rule the above applicable, but I'll keep it in the post just for your information.


    And I bring up one more issue. If you don't get your FOID back, there may be some challenges in legally removing the firearms from Illinois. (e.g. you cannot legally touch them as a resident of Illinois, but you also cannot private-party transfer handguns interstate, so how can your friend legally give them back to you?) There are probably ways to do this while complying with the law (federal & state), but you'll have to research that in depth. If you get your FOID reinstated and your friend transfers them back to you while you're a resident of Illinois, this pitfall goes away...


    Good luck


    IANAL, so this isn't legal advice. You may need to retain an hour or two of an attorney trained in this area in order to lock down all the details.

  10. IMO, your easiest path for keeping the family heirlooms away from the auction block is to fill out the forms to have a friend or relative with a FOID pick up the firearms & store them. There have been a couple of threads here on that process in the past if you search for them. That should probably be your first priority, to make sure your firearms are safe. After that, it will be a long (and painful) process to get your FOID re-instated so that you can take possession of them again. Expect it to take several months. :( A lawyer isn't required, but would help.

  11. IMO it probably is really Cook County Police Dept doing this. They do all kind of shady things at Dart's command for political motives. (e.g. you mentioned transfers. Is it possible you legally transferred a gun to a cook county resident, and there was legal trouble w/ that gun afterwards? Are they possibly trying to say you are a "gun dealer" and hold you to different rules?)


    But given the information you have from ISP & your local police, they are not allowed to do what they are doing, so you would be legal to "send them packing" if them come again. (IANAL and this is not legal advice.)


    That is a really weird situation though. Please keep us in the loop on what happens going forward...

  12. Good luck on your quest. IMO it is unfortunate that it is so terribly difficult (and sometimes impossible) to have your rights restored, even after someone turns their life around. As long as you have a felony on your record, you will never have any 2nd-amendment rights recognized.


    Moving to GA won't help. All states follow federal law regarding firearm possession and ownership (relevant excerpt below). Your only option is to petition to have this past conviction removed from your record here in Illinois. From what I've read before, a non-violent felony is eligible for expungement after 10 years on the "straight and narrow". It sounds like a hard and difficult process though; let us know what happens after you speak with an attorney!




    18 U.S. Code 922 - Unlawful acts

    (d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—
    (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

  13. Hello folks


    I applied for my FOID card back in mid-2015. I was denied due to a domestic battery charge(at the time it was 6 yrs since incident). I also happen to have a few felonies on my record nothing violent besides the domestic battery. Have a past use of drug history that may/ or may not come up. I've been sober from alcohol and drugs for 8 years. My last offense was a felony in 2008. Is there any hope? I was tempting to call a lawyer that specializes in this; however I'd like that as a last option. Any direction? Thanks in advance.


    IMO, from my understanding, it may be possible, but is very, very hard. You would need expungement on all felony and domestic battery charges before a restoration of you firearm rights. A wise first step is finding an attorney who is familiar with this process and having a discussion. From what I have read, it takes many years, many large $$s, and even then takes quite a bit of luck & skill of your attorney. But I could be wrong. An attorney who is versed in the expungement process in Illinois would be able to set your expectations...

  14. If I recall, the biggest problem with getting the Florida permit is finding a police station that will do the fingerprint cards. Some do, some don't. And double check the instructions about filling out the agency's info......


    Yes. There are departments that will, but you have to call around. And the instructions are not intuitive for filling out the card. But both minor problems. :)

  15. Let us know what you find out when you call the ISP. Hopefully one of your grandparents could be your "sponsor guardian". But Illinois certainly doesn't make it easy.



    Mail the form to your parents out of state so they can sign and have it notarized. Then they can mail it to you or ISP, depending.

    <-- Or that. I don't think it says your parents have to be in the United States. It would add some time, but no reason they couldn't sign it and notarize it out-of-country, and then mail it back to you.

  16. So it looks like zero tolerance from the above quote? Obviously only in an establishment that serves anyways. As I read it, I can be under the influence and carry as long as the place does not serve alcohol, ie: the street.


    Zero tolerance is true in several states. In the vast majority of states, you can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol. But many of them have the rule that you cannot consume a drink.



    For those who have the "CCW" iPhone or Android app clicking "Restaurants Serving Alcohol no/yes" will show that state's law (for states that have it spelled out).

  17. I am less skeptical after reading the bill. It seems to cover 2 different actions: (1) Virginia recognizing CCW permits of all other states that meet the requirements, and (2) The Virginia State Police, or Attorney General, negotiating with other states to recognize Virginia CCW.



    "A. A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided (i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, if available; (ii) the permit or license holder carries a photo identification issued by a government agency of any state or by the U.S. Department of Defense or U.S. Department of State and displays the permit or license and such identification upon demand by a law-enforcement officer; and (iii) the permit or license holder has not previously had a Virginia concealed handgun permit revoked".




    I deleted the crossed out text from the linked page. I think that the Illinois CCL would count as a government issued photo ID. If not, the Driver’s License or official state ID would.


    With the bill signed on Friday, VA will recognize all permits. But it doesn't take effect for several months.

  18. Mine did the same thing, except it was my error with a training cert and not the license. I assume it went back to the start because mine is "under review = submitted"


    Similar experience. I accidentally uploaded the wrong cert (instead of the applicable one) and got rejected. I fixed it same day they rejected, and was back at the beginning of the line. When I did it though, they were very on the ball. It only set me back 1 - 2 weeks.

  19. I have seen silly rumors like this several times being passed around on social media, both Missouri and Kentucky. Both states are "recognize all permits" by statute, they do not specifically recognize the Illinois license. Some states (such as I believe Indiana) make specific mention of not recognizing the Illinois FOID as a carry license this is sometimes misinterpreted as the state "no longer recognizing Illinois carry licenses".


    There are some IL residents who seem to perpetuate rumors like that as a sort of defense mechanism, to provide excuses for why they don't get an IL carry license.



    Correct. MO & KY recognize all states by statute. The only way they would stop recognizing the Illinois FCCL is if they passed a new reciprocity law that was very restrictive and overwrote their existent one. Very unlikely.


    With your Illinois permit, you can legally carry in 26 states (including carrying permitless in ME, since ME doesn't recognize IL) I very much doubt this will number will go down. But it probably won't go up by more than 1 or 2, unless other states switch to "permitless carry" or to "recognize all state permits". Most of the rest of the states only recognize those states who recognize them.



    "When I read through the Texas statutes I think it required an annual review by the Attorney General's office".


    It looks like you are correct. I was going by the provisions posted in post 217. This is the rest of the section.


    "(c ) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall annually:

    (1) submit a report to the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker of the house of representatives listing the states the attorney general has determined qualify for recognition under Subsection (b ); and

    (2) review the statutes of states that the attorney general has determined do not qualify for recognition under Subsection (b ) to determine the changes to their statutes that are necessary to qualify for recognition under that subsection.

    (d ) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall submit the report required by Subsection (c )(1) not later than January 1 of each calendar year".

    - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/GV/4/B/411/H/411.173#sthash.qJhcYk0a.dpuf


    How much pressure a non-Texan can exert on their state government is another question. A larger body e.g. a state or national organization would probably get more notice. I do not want to get too negative on Texas here. There may be additional applicable laws of which we are unaware. It could just be a matter of simple oversight and Molly's reminder may be all that was needed. They did move rather quickly who Ohio changed its laws. That was state government to state government rather than a single nonresident.

    Any new information on Texas, we are doing a hog hunt in Feb 2016 and looks like our travels to Texas are covered on carrying, but not Texas, would be nice to travel all the way to San Antonio and back with some protection, in and out of the car.

    Texas honors Arizona license. Your IL training will get you the AZ license. Finger prints and $15.



    A good option. (One of many). Texas honors 43 permits. Plenty of non-res choices :)

  21. i don't think that is a felony and a misdemeanor doesn't DQ you...


    Yep. If the DQ reason is domestic or a felony, you can probably expect you FOID to get revoked as well (since such a reason would make you federally prohibited). Leaving the state wouldn't even help if it's a federal prohibition.


    But if the DQ is something else (e.g. a misdemeanor other than domestic) then shouldn't be a problem. Dart likes to object to all kinds of things that don't actually make you ineligible. You then have the chance to fight the denial, but the $$ and time makes it a pain.



    Federal Prohibitions (will result in loss of FOID)

    • Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less.
    • Fugitives from justice.
    • Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs.
    • Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution.
    • Illegal aliens.
    • Citizens who have renounced their citizenship.
    • Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces.
    • Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.
    • Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle.
    • Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner.
    • Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.


    IANAL, and this is not legal advice!

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