Posts posted by Dx54r
The what is a firearm thread is awesome but it doesn't answer the question. I mean, what is a firearm?
Since lower receivers are firearms and "assault weapon parts" are banned, is it possible to "register" a blank piece of metal as an assault weapon? I don't own an AR-15, and right now I apparently can't legally ever buy one in this state... but I can legally buy a chunk of aluminum and call it an AR-15 lower receiver. A zero percent lower is just a chunk of metal... or is it? Last years ghost gun law bans homemade firearms and 80 percent lowers unless they have been serialized by an FFL, but there is an exception if the firearm has been made "Permanently inoperable". Idk about you, but a featureless square of aluminum sure says permanently inoperable to me. Does a permanently inoperable firearm receiver still have to be registered as an illegal assault weapon?
So, what is a firearm? According to the ATF, an 80% lower is not even a firearm. However, according to the new assault weapon ban and IL's ghost gun law, is an 80 percent lower an AR-15 according to Illinois? With that logic why isn't any piece of raw material or "zero percent lower" considered an assault weapon? When they give foid cards with "Assault Weapon Endorsements" on them, I'm very excited to get "Ford Escape" put on mine for when I register the frame of my vehicle.
When it's his job, livelihood, and family that would ultimately suffer from upholding his oath, will he still comply?
Find a new line of work.
Anyone have the text of the bill at the governors desk? There was some things in the senate bill yesterday that were ripe for loopholes.
I own half of the guns that are banned by name.
On 1/6/2023 at 9:22 AM, stromerlmao said:
When I try to log in under the original account it doesn't let me in, but does tell me that I'm under review with a pop-up. This is what I've been seeing for the past 5 months and it's getting a little old for a situation that seems very cut and dry to me. Very frustrating
Try applying again on a new account.
Have you tried just applying normally again after you turned 21?
Now that you can apply without a sponsor, there really is nothing to appeal. Unless the ISP throws every denied applicant into the "DENY FOREVER UNTIL THEY APPEAL" bin, which they totally might do, you should be able to get one. Your application sounds like it should have been rejected, not full blown denied.
Im honestly at the point where selling every gun I own and using the money to move to wisconsin makes more sense than renewing my Foid ever again.
On 12/6/2022 at 5:04 PM, THE KING said:
I completely agree. I think we should have constitutional carry. Until we get the judicial system to slap down these egregious gun control bills we should not educate the legislators on how stupid they are.
Pass HB5855 and let the courts use the standard of review set by the NYSRPA case to b**** slap their dumb ***** 👍😁
How are we going to get constitutional carry when we need a FOID to even own a firearm?
On 12/5/2022 at 10:20 AM, crufflesmuth said:
Michigan's problem: retirees are the majority of households. Where do most of these people hail from? Chicago; NYC; LA; places where firearms are not common. So that's why you have a woman elected governor. When retirement-aged men have no testosterone, they will vote for attractive women to compensate for that. People need to get involved. It's not enough to sue. We have to stop caring about picking up a box of ammo and keeping it covered in a bag. We need to keep the culture alive by avoiding the anti-violence movement goal, which is attaching stigma to something that is natural. They did that with relationships, let's not allow them to get away with that when it comes to constitutional rights. Longterm, the anti-violence movement can be stopped, when millennials start forming households and not caring about "dont' ask, don't tell" when it comes to guns. There is nothing to be ashamed of and if we don't carry that perspective, we're helping the people we claim to oppose.
Nothing like good old-fashioned misogyny to make the ignorant turn down good advice.
On 12/3/2022 at 9:57 AM, Upholder said:
Witness slips are way closer than makes me comfortable, 545 to 782. The other side is getting some traction with everytown/etc.
Witness slips are just fun because they are easy to do and see to determine how much visibility a bill is getting. x oppose, y support. In reality, half the names are fake. I wouldn't take it too seriously, because the politicians sure don't.
On 7/20/2022 at 8:35 AM, Matt B said:
“After Tuesday's debate, the city council voted to make changes to the ordinance, directing staff and the city attorney to add an exemption for police, law enforcement and military personnel. The changes also remove handgun sales and the sale of large capacity magazines for handguns from the proposed ban.“
I wonder what the point of this change is. It’s not like the two gun shops would be able to stay in business selling only to LEO and military.
It's an attempt to get around state CCW preemption.
Adam Kinzinger still has a job?
The biggest problem I have is with red flag laws. If someone is deemed "so dangerous" to themselves or others by a court that their constitutional rights are taken away, they need to be locked up and removed from society.
Similarly, I think felons should have their rights restored upon release. If they are too dangerous to be in society with all their rights, why do we even let them out?
Why did we ever get rid of asylums? Who's idea was it to let the mentally Ill, homeless, and people too dangerous to hold a spoon to just be out and about only to ever to be delt with by overworked cops and emts?
What form are you guys talking about? I have never been asked to fill out a form state specific form besides the federal 4473.
I might drive to an FFL next weekend and pay to have them register my whole car as an unfinished frame or receiver. Make or model? Uh... Buick.
I guess it's all fun and games until you get pulled over for speeding and they tell you to turn the gun off and step out of the gun.
Also, every chunk of metal in Illinois is an unfinished frame or receiver.
I've been looking into making a semi auto sten carbine for a long time. The kits are made from a full auto sten cut through both the receiver and barrel and all have serial numbers. You put in a new 16.5 inch barrel and purchase a different bolt that fires in semi from a closed bolt and are good to go.
Sounds like I'm going to have to be in another state to even possess the kit now? What BS.
At first I thought the name change was dumb, but the new one is starting to grow on me.
No matter the reason, I think it works.
Time to paint a deep, dark, painful picture of the state of Illinois gun owners. This overview is created using the information in this thread along with census.gov population "ESTIMATES". I can't preview my post so hopefully this is readable and interesting.
The TOTAL POPULATION of Illinois is 12,801,539.. give or take a little bit. Assuming there are still two genders, that total is composed of 6,291,791 Men and 6,509748 Women.
Now, there are 2,239,515 total FOID CARDS issued in the state, with 1,561,070 belonging to men and 678,445 belonging to women.
This comes out to 17.49% of the population having a FOID card, or 24.81% of ALL men and 10.42% of ALL women, in the state.
The breakdown of FOID holders is 69.71% male to 30.29% female. Only 17.49% of the population of Illinois has a FOID card.
Now there is an interesting thing about the FOID card. You need a FOID card to have a CCL license!
14.35% of all men who own a FOID card have gotten a CCL while only 7.41% of women with a FOID card have gotten a CCL.
Moving on totally to Concealed Carry Licenses we have 274,258 total CCL's issued in the state. 224,005 of which have been issued to men and 50,253 to women.
The breakdown of CCL holders is 81.68% male to 18.32% female.
This comes out to 2.14% of the total population having a CCL, or 3.56% of men and 0.77% of women.
Hall of Fame:
Calhoun County - Highest percentage of FOID card holders with 50.74% of the population owning a FOID. Wow!!!
Pope County - Highest percentage of CCL holders, with 6.21% of the population packing.
Wabash County - Highest percentage of FOID holders who have gotten a CCL (18.43%)
White County - Highest percentage of Female FOID holders who have gotten a CCL (13.32%)
Hall of Shame:
Cook County - Lowest total percentage of FOID holders (11.09%)
Cook County - Lowest total percentage of CCL holders (1.48%)
Cook County - Most murders.
Those are sad numbers. Twelve percent of gun owners have a carry license. It's like owning cars but not having a drivers license.
It's been increasing steadily. I wouldn't be surprised if a fairly high percentage of recent applicants for FOID cards are also applying for carry licenses, either concurrently or soon after. There are strong hints that this is the case.
The more expensive something is, the less people get it. Our CCW has got to be one of the most expensive in the country. If there was no fee (or the fee was single digits), and if there were actually free classes out there somewhere the number of people with CCW would probably double.
You can get a FOID but private sales only. Cant pass the BGC from a 4473 as I understand it. I seem to recall the MMCard needs to have been expired for one year before federal law will OK you.
I'm fairly certain you can't get a FOID while holding a cannabis card.
Q. If I am a qualifying patient or designated caregiver pursuant to the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act and hold a valid Medical Cannabis Card, are my Firearms Owners Identification Card and Concealed Carry License still valid?
Medical marijuana cardholders will not have their FOID or CCL cards revoked, or be denied issuance of a FOID or CCL card, due to their status as a medical marijuana cardholder. Such cards are State-issued, governed by State law, and State law requires that a person's status as a medical marijuana cardholder not result in the denial of any right or privilege
Interesting. I wonder if they will give you the FOID card, but flag your private sale purchases when you call the ISP.
I'm fairly certain you can't get a FOID while holding a cannabis card.
If you answer yes you will be denied and have to appeal.
If you somehow get flagged after answering no for something you will be denied and have to appeal.
But you answered it yourself. "The law means either inpatient, or outpatient while also being a danger to self or others."
1) Were you an inpatient?
2) Was any of your treatment court ordered or an "emergency" style temp psych evaluation / hold?
If no to the above 2 questions, then you should be able to honestly answer no.
Illinois General Assembly 3/7/2023
in Illinois Politics
I get that there are a lot of bills and only so much bandwidth but neutral on HB3238? Really? Neutral on a body armor ban styled the same as the assault weapon ban? If the whole point of concealed carry is to be able to protect yourself, how can illinoiscarry be neutral on a ban on body armor?
Concealed carry might as well be a hobby if self defense isn't the goal.
Thanks for all you do and keeping tracking of all this garbage.