Posts posted by springfield shooter
"Weapons of war".
These people need to find a new tune to sing. But that might not work for them trying to convey moral superiority.
"Unhelpful in this regard" apparently means that SCOTUS has ruled that pesky Constitution means what it says....not what some gun-grabber wants it to say.
Retiree here. Mailing a check for another 100 (to make a total of 200) on 02/01.
On 1/10/2023 at 8:57 PM, Upholder said:
Todd notes in his video that analyzing just the mag portion took him about 8 hours and that filings are focused on being right, not on being fast. So there are not likely to be filings tomorrow.
Which makes sense. Plus, we have to take into account that the final product was just passed today. We don't want to leave one stone un-turned.
On 1/10/2023 at 8:44 PM, steveTA84 said:
If you can't legally purchase one of these firearms as of 8:28 pm this date, there is already harm to the law-abiding by the state.
Did they outlaw arms in common use in 1791?
On 1/10/2023 at 8:37 PM, Upholder said:
"we've seen too many mass shootings in a very very short time and I think now people are paying attention."
"we know it's happening every week in the south side, on the west side"
On 1/10/2023 at 8:36 PM, Upholder said:
JB: "Long ago was the time we should have gotten this done" "there is a very powerful lobby in the state of Illinois that has prevented the passage of a bill like this" had to stand up to very powerful forces to get this done.
Prepping for the nomination run.
On 1/10/2023 at 8:32 PM, Upholder said:
JB: "you don't get to choose which laws you comply with in the State of Illinois."
You mean like, paying the proper amount of real estate taxes?
PS: and neither do you get to ignore the rulings of the SCOTUS.
On 1/10/2023 at 6:13 PM, steveTA84 said:
Next step (if upheld)? Right here (ammo buying restrictions)
Was restricting ammunition sales a thing in 1791?
The more quickly the bill is signed, the more quickly the 2A side sues.
As for "them" knowing it's going down: of course they do, that's not the point. "They" get to both virtue signal, and please their gun-grabbing money stream. And JB gets to run for the Democrat nomination for president as a warrior against the evil gun nuts who actually both believe in, and revere, the Constitution of the United States.
On 1/10/2023 at 9:20 AM, mikew said:
Each of us should make sure that we have contributed money for the legal effort.
This one is for all the marbles.
And not just the 2A. This is about the Constitution itself as a whole.
On 1/9/2023 at 8:08 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said:
Harmon gave us his interpretation of the 2nd amendment and I've heard this going around in liberal circles.....
And still, the lower courts (per Bruen) continue to rule against infringements.
On 1/9/2023 at 6:03 PM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said:
harmon acknowledges this will not solve the problem.
Nope. But it'll temporarily make the gun-grabbers happy, and therefor the money flowing.
On 1/9/2023 at 6:00 PM, Upholder said:
Bailey brings up NYSRPA v Bruen, reads from the decision. Notes that there must be a demonstrated tradition. "What history and tradition from 1791 allowed commonly owned firearms to be banned from possession?"
Harmon: "The SCOTUS jurisprudence seems to be muddled"
The lower courts that are already issuing TROs per Bruen don't seem to think so.
On 1/9/2023 at 5:48 PM, Upholder said:
notes that the make/model/serial for each retained assault weapon must be provided for a FOID endorsement.
Is that not a surrender to the Governor and the House....and of course the local and national organizations he refers to?
On 1/9/2023 at 10:55 AM, Matt B said:
They are either oblivious or in denial. I don’t know if it matters which one it is.. but I would love to know.
Some of them are probably oblivious, and some in denial. But their are others that know the constitutional realities, and don't care. The people/organizations that pull their chains (and disburse the funds) want this, and they are willing to do their bidding.
3,270 to 31. With 9 no positions.
Done, and "thanks".
On 1/8/2023 at 7:46 PM, Upholder said:
NOTE: I had typed HB1720, it is SB1720.
The vote tally is not yet available, It should eventually be here https://ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory.asp?GA=102&DocNum=1720&DocTypeID=SB&GAId=16&LegID=134360&SessionID=110
On 1/8/2023 at 7:39 PM, Upholder said:
Senate votes to concur with the House and increase legislator pay 30-21-0 HB1720
Got a box score handy?
On 1/8/2023 at 7:41 PM, Upholder said:
Executive committee will meet at 9am, room 212. Senate stands ajourned until 1pm Jan 9th,
Sorry. Wrong post.
On 1/8/2023 at 7:15 PM, cybermgk said:
"“Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation, but we’ve locked in inflation bumps each July, and now, late at night, with no one here, we’ve ensured our pay goes up well beyond what the private sector sees,” state Rep. Mark Batinick, R-Plainfield, told The Associated Press. "
Batinick (R) voted no. Of the three reps close by me, Elik (R) voted no. Hoffman and Stuart (both D) voted yes.
I'm just sayin'.
On 1/8/2023 at 5:14 PM, steveTA84 said:
We are in an interesting stalemate. If the senate concedes, they look week. Not sure how the senate will respond to the pressure and the anger at them..
How do you think Mike Madigan would've responded?
2nd Circuit responds to SCOTUS on New York carry law
in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
"No justice publicly dissented from the decision, but Justice Samuel Alito, writing for himself and fellow conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, described the court's action as procedural (emphasis mine) "rather than expressing any view on the merits of the case.""
"Wednesday's action may not be the last time the Supreme Court addresses New York's new gun law. Alito and Thomas noted that other challenges to the state's law are currently on a fast-track in the 2nd Circuit and invited plaintiffs to return to the Supreme Court if that appeals court does not expedite the proceedings in their case as well." (Emphasis mine.)
In the interest of transparency: I got the link above from another post here at IC, than couldn't find it again. Not trying to steal anyone's thunder. Thanks for the link.