Tango7

So I was pumping gas yesterday, and happened to see this little gem pop up in the at the pump advertising screen. Love seeing the Brady Bunch as a sponsor, but G-d forbid the NRA advertise firearm safety. Anybody else seeing these in their county?

Yep. Had a moment's hesitation when we got a new Fire Chief, but it's amazing how a CoI will unbunch panties.

I'm sure the Meals-on-wheels and Big Brothers / Big Sisters programs will miss him and his friends.

Given that a "rights restoration division" was included as a department within the ATF when it was created with the passage of GCA '68, one could argue this is an unneeded step, or rather, is being conducted for publicity. Sadly, RRD has been unfunded, and thus unstaffed, for the entirety of it's existence, (Congress going so far as to codify the defunding in 1992), regardless of which party holds the majority in Congress.

Truth. I've been responding to emergencies for over 3 decades, and I have yet to receive an engraved invitation to a heart attack, assault or house fire. A scene from my youth sticks with me, before I ever had a badge. It was in the immediate aftermath of the Winnetka school shooting in 1988. I was headed to Evanston and happened to see one of the local stations interviewing a well dressed woman driving an expensive imported auto, tears streaking down her face. She looked plaintively at the camera and said "Things like this aren't supposed to happen here..." My immediate thought was "<female dog>. please. Where is "here"? Was your money supposed to buy you immunity from evil? If there was such a place, I guarantee you people would be selling their souls to live there". There are people who think "those" things only happen to "those" people in "those" places, and if they avoid them, they don't need to consider a threat as existing. Some extend their rose colored delusion to deny that evil walks amongst us disguised as man, and there is no place that is 100% guaranteed to be violence free.

As long as the firearms aren't fully or partially concealed... The archdiocese made it evident that they disliked legal guns nearly as much as illegal guns, so much as they bothered to discern the difference. They signs eventually came down, but TBH since the FD is free, I use it as my primary.

Mine doesn't, but I work here. That said, they don't charge for other community based groups that wish to borrow it.

I think everybody should have the option to exercise their Rights, but I wouldn't force anyone to do so. I work with someone who likes shooting their friend's guns when they go camping, but they don't want one in their house or carried. When I asked why, they admitted they have an explosive temper and don't want to make a temporary situation into a permanent one. I think you meant to write "cannot accept" instead of "do" by the way. That's part of the introduction to my class. I offer a refund if folks haven't thought it through, but thankfully I have yet to have anyone actually take me up on it.

Also, I still get students who insist their state FCCL won't be valid in Chicago.

As a way of waving a single finger at the Courts that forced them to acknowledge such a "right", they did their research and instead of using averages set them just shy of being out of line with comparisons in case of a court challenge. The fee was set just shy of Denver County CO's $152.50 (they added $100 permission fee to the state's $52.50). With that said their renewal is only $63 ($50 + $13), so we're the highest renewal in the country. Yay us. The length was set at 16 hours because the CCW law in place in CA at the time stated that the certifying agency "may require up to 16 hours of training". The fact that in many eastern and northern counties it was a 2 hour video and a quiz went unmentioned. Add the dearth of suitable facilities with live-fire capacity in the largest city in the state, the 2 full days of work classroom requirement and that the state prohibits CCW on any transit paid for using public funds? This is nearly as big a kick in the face to working urban poor being able to exercise their 2A Rights as GCA '68 was. But (D)ey knew it and didn't care, because it wasn;t about what the people wanted or deserved.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Part Three Section Two: The Ten Commandments; Chapter Two You Shall Love Your Neighbor As Yourself; Article 5 The Fifth Commandment I. Respect For Human Life Legitimate defense 2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor.... the one is intended, the other is not."65 2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow: If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful.... Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's. 2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life. Preserving the common good requires rendering the unjust aggressor unable to inflict harm. To this end, those holding legitimate authority have the right to repel by armed force aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their charge.66 And for those who might still attempt to throw Scripture at you, you can reply with this, courtesy of the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership: But one of those ten is among the most commonly mis-translated verses of all of Hebrew Scripture -- and its mis-translation has resulted in deadly mis-interpretation. Says the Torah (Exodus 20:13): Lo tirtzach!The Hebrew word used has a clear and unequivocal meaning: “Do not murder.” Unfortunately, this verse is generally mistranslated as “Do not kill.” But the Hebrew could not be more clear, and there is a world of difference between killing and murder. This is the Sixth Commandment. How many times have you heard “Thou shalt not kill”? This mistranslation is etched upon the hearts and minds of both Jewish and Christian children and adults with pernicious results. Can we possibly estimate the numbers of lives that have been lost by foolish pacifism rather than righteous defense in the face of evil?

One of the things I appreciate about Kansas's CCW law - if you're going to deny people the ability to provide for their own protection, that's absolutely your right...but then the onus to provide protection, both passive (controlled access) and active (magnetometers and armed security) is on the property owner. And no carve-outs for government buildings with public access. Haven't held creds down there since they adopted ConCarry, but don't anticipate it's changed much.

Originally I used the meeting hall at a local church, but then they posted, thinking the "Pursuant to ILCS 66/65" would prevent hood rats from carrying on the property. I use the community room at a local fire department. Providing them with a copy of my NRA instructor insurance smoothed the way, as did guaranteeing that no loaded firearms would be carried or on property during training.

Maybe not financially in the initial group as it's righting a wrong, but if it's a universal application then other unknown effected persons would for the future.

Start with requiring a "Mother, may I?" card from the state that we have to pay for. Murdock v. Pennsylvania 319 U.S. 105 (1943):“a person cannot be compelled “to purchase, through a license fee or a license tax, the privilege freely granted by the constitution.”” Now consider the CCW process here in Ill-annoys. At 16 hours the longest class length in the country, at $150 the 2nd most expensive "shall-issue" CCW ticket in the country after Denver CO, and at $150 the most expensive renewal fee in the country. Then add in a live fire requirement intentionally added in a state where the most populous city had outlawed gun ranges years before. Outlaw carry on public transit. Wanna say "F(orget) the poor" any more than that? Also from Murdock: “The power to tax the exercise of a privilege is the power to suppress its enjoyment. … Those who can tax the exercise of this practice can make its exercise so costly as to deprive it of the resources necessary for its maintenance. Those who can tax the privilege … can close the doors to all those who do not have a full purse.” Time for folks to follow Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969) en mass: “Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right… may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right.”