F.O.I.D.

[BShawn]

Hello all. Although not new to the world of firearms, views, opinions, and knowledge of facts that follow suit here, I am brand new to this particular site. I will attempt to introduce myself again as I have before in a different thread.

 

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A brief introduction of myself:

Hi my name is Shawn, I am a 27 YO male. My father was very pro 2A, and introduced me to the hobby of 'shooting' at the approximate age of 5. I am VERY proud, and thankful of my father for being such a good teacher, and responsible firearm owner himself. Teaching me not only 'how to shoot' but the responsibilities of having and using firearms in general and beyond. So yes I have never technically received 'formal training' by and 'certified' instructors, but I really don't think anyone could 'out-do' the "training" and permanent habits, mindsets, and skills my father has instilled in me since I was young! ('specially after seeing that one video of that DEA agent or whoever he was discharging a weapon he 'thought' to be unloaded in a classroom full of students OUCH!) It is just too bad my father is the lucky one, he is no longer a resident of CROOK county, IL. I am at my witts end with this crappy state of IL! If it weren't for the fact that I have two children that I refuse to leave behind (their mother and I are no longer together, so I see them as much as possible) I *would* leave this heck-inois without thinking twice OR looking back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well now everyone knows a little about me and my background... I look forward to conversing with you all, and potentially meeting some of you... Take care all !!!!!

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Well I do have a decent to above average comprehension of laws, courts and the such I still find myself in a predicament that I strongly seek support and or advice. Please bear with me as this is going to be a LONG and complete explanation of the VERY specific scenario that I find myself in as we speak.

 

Well, let me first start out by informing you of a personal family matter. Considering that she is my mother, that I do care about and love I am going to be as polite as I can about it. Setting all emotion aside she is not the most mentally stable person around. I am almost sure that she is manic depressive among other things. Well with that out of the way there was a specific time frame in my life that I had encountered many hardships at one time. Of course being young and going through such hardships for the first time ever I was effected within my demeanor and general attitude. Well around this time frame my mother had expressed a general concern to her 'shrink' about me being (or becoming?) suicidal. As I stated I was experiencing many different hardships, at the same time, for the first time in my life, so of course I did not appear to be my 'normal' 'happy go lucky' self. By no means was I suicidal though! Well on 03/21/2003 1440 hours was when things got VERY out of hand. I was sleeping as I worked 3rd shift. I was awaken by 7 or 8 police officers, which ALL of them had their handguns pointed DIRECTLY AT ME, supposedly to investigate if I was suicidal or not !?! Well they supposedly feared their own safety due to being 'tipped' that I owned a gun (by my mothers 'shrink'). Well at this point in time I did posses a valid FOID card, and I did own and posses a ruger 9mm handgun. The local LEO informed me that I would be taken to Sherman Hospital in Elgin, IL for a suicide evaluation. Of course knowing that I had no intent on causing harm to myself just wanted to go back to sleep. The officer kindly informed me that I could ' willingly ' go, or he could place me under arrest for ' disorderly conduct ' at which point I would wind up there anyway because I would be in police custody. So I ' willingly ' went to Sherman Hospital in Elgin, IL for a suicide evaluation. Anyone that has been to a hospital knows that most of your time spent there will be waiting. Well as the police report says they initially respond at approximately 1440 hours. Keeping in mind all the time spent at my residence with local LEO and all the time spend waiting at the hospital, my discharge paperwork shows a discharge time of 1707 (keeping also in mind the time waiting for the discharge paperwork after you are notified you are being discharged!) Yes, it was quite apparent to the evaluator that I was indeed NOT suicidal. (Honestly look at it now, it's more than 5 years later, if I was heck bent on 'offing' myself I would not be writing this right NOW) Well the nightmare came true dated 04/04/2003 I receive a letter from the ISP stating that my FOID is being revoked (of course due to THIS very scenario). I attempt for the next several years to comply with what they demand for an appeal. They really didn't request 'too much', problem is I could NOT get 2 out of the 3 things they asked for which I will explain (as I did to them). I sent them character references as they requested (I actually sent them more than they requested). They requested a letter of recommendation from the police department that handled the incident that lead to the revocation of my FOID, which I made a valid attempt at obtaining for them. The STREAMWOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT refused to write such a letter citing "due to any possible civil and criminal liabilities". I attempted to explain this to the ISP. They also requested basically the same thing from a 'shrink'. So I sought out a 'shrink' to do this for me... NO luck, every 'shrink' I talked to cited the same thing as the SWPD, they refused "due to any potential civil and criminal liabilities". Well after 2 or 3 years pass, and heeding some (imho; bad advice) I finished 'waiting out' the '5 year mark'. 04/04/2008 comes around and I submit my application for an FOID card (had my previous one never been revoked it would have expired 01/01/2008, but I made sure to wait until the latest date possible to submit my app I picked the letter dated of the revocation exactly 5 years later). 05/07/2008 comes around and I still did not receive anything in the mail from the ISP, no card, no denial notta. So since it had been 30 days I place a phone call to the ISP to seek out the status of my application. The lady on the other end of the phone notifies me that as of 'yesterday' my application has in fact been DENIED She stated that she saw some notations from a 'higher ranking' official and was asked if I wished to speak to him, to which of course my response was "Yes Please". Well needless to say the guy on the other end of the phone from the ISP did not feel that it mattered that I am not a felon, that I have never been arrested or convicted of any crimes (misdemeanor or felony) ever let alone in the past 5 years. I have NOT been a patient in a mental facility in the past 5 years. I am not addicted to narcotics or alcohol. I am not mentally retarded. I am not subject to an order of protection. I am surely not an illegal alien. Or that I would not be disbarred from owning or possessing a firearm or firearm ammunition in another state. He of course stated that he was NOT going to overturn the decision to deny my application because I failed to comply with the appeal process from more than FIVE years ago!!! He stated I would under NO circumstances receive a FOID card again unless I completed the appeal process.

 

What I am wondering is, #1 can they even do this to me ??!!?? (is there anything that can be brought up to 'force' the issuance of a card to me?)

#2 if they can somehow pull this on me, as I have stated, for this whole appeal thing they have requested documents that I cannot seem to get due to being refused by the agency or business they desire to have me obtain such material from !!!!!!! They have me going in F-ing circles !!! *:pulls hair out:*

 

I would REALLY appreciate all and ANY support, advice, help, SOS please! This whole matter is making me to my stomach.

 

It bothers me even more that my voice may not even be relevant due to the fact that I am not 'firearm legal' in the state of IL! That bothers me even more, because all 'they' did was take away my FOID (a piece of PAPER), that I now have a firearm that is collecting dust because I cannot even take it to the range not to mention I of course cannot purchase any more, so my collection remains where it's at, as it will until I can straighten this situation out.

 

Once again I would REALLY appreciate all and ANY support, advice, help, SOS please! This whole matter is making me to my stomach.

 

Thank you in advance

 

Shawn

[BShawn]

I am sorry I failed to mention the specific code my FOID was revoked pursuant to 430 ILCS 65/8(f)

 

(430 ILCS 65/8) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑8)

(Text of Section before amendment by P.A. 95‑581)

Sec. 8. The Department of State Police has authority to deny an application for or to revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act only if the Department finds that the applicant or the person to whom such card was issued is or was at the time of issuance:

(a) A person under 21 years of age who has been convicted of a misdemeanor other than a traffic offense or adjudged delinquent;

( A person under 21 years of age who does not have the written consent of his parent or guardian to acquire and possess firearms and firearm ammunition, or whose parent or guardian has revoked such written consent, or where such parent or guardian does not qualify to have a Firearm Owner's Identification Card;

© A person convicted of a felony under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction;

(d) A person addicted to narcotics;

(e) A person who has been a patient of a mental institution within the past 5 years;

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(f) A person whose mental condition is of such a nature that it poses a clear and present danger to the applicant, any other person or persons or the community;

For the purposes of this Section, "mental condition" means a state of mind manifested by violent, suicidal, threatening or assaultive behavior.

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(g) A person who is mentally retarded;

(Source: P.A. 92‑854, eff. 12‑5‑02; 93‑367, eff. 1‑1‑04.)

 

 

 

 

 

I guess the FOID is also having some changes incorporated 06/01/2008 (as follows:)

 

 

 

 

 

(Text of Section after amendment by P.A. 95‑581)

Sec. 8. The Department of State Police has authority to deny an application for or to revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act only if the Department finds that the applicant or the person to whom such card was issued is or was at the time of issuance:

(a) A person under 21 years of age who has been convicted of a misdemeanor other than a traffic offense or adjudged delinquent;

( A person under 21 years of age who does not have the written consent of his parent or guardian to acquire and possess firearms and firearm ammunition, or whose parent or guardian has revoked such written consent, or where such parent or guardian does not qualify to have a Firearm Owner's Identification Card;

© A person convicted of a felony under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction;

(d) A person addicted to narcotics;

(e) A person who has been a patient of a mental institution within the past 5 years or has been adjudicated as a mental defective;

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(f) A person whose mental condition is of such a nature that it poses a clear and present danger to the applicant, any other person or persons or the community;

For the purposes of this Section, "mental condition" means a state of mind manifested by violent, suicidal, threatening or assaultive behavior.

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(g) A person who is mentally retarded;

 

(Source: P.A. 95‑581, eff. 6‑1‑08.)

 

 

 

 

 

So I would really like to know how they are intending to keep a valid FOID card out of my hands when there has been no documentation of me EVER being a person who is a violent, suicidal, threatening or assaultive person. The only thing that I know of for a fact states anything along those lines is the police report from that incident on 03/21/2003 that indicates I was suicidal. Actually don't even get me started on the police report it is filled with a BUNCH of lies, including my father asking the local LEO to have my FOID revoked "for everyones safety". When showing my father the report he said he made no such statement (while laughing in disgust)! My father knows the ISP are the ones who control the FOID not locals... Let me forewarn you all, the Streamwood Police are at minimal guilty of being liars. Any way I would appreciate all and any of the help anyone on here may have to offer. I would like to thank whomever offers their help in any way in advance I really really appreciate it! If there are any further details that you would like, that you may need to assist me just let me know and I will be more than glad to fill you in on anything I may have failed to mention in my last 2 posts

 

Shawn

[Molly B.]

Shawn,

 

Are you a member of the Illinois State Rifle Association? It is my understanding that they may be able to offer you some guidance or at least recommend legal council that could help you solve this problem.

 

This stinks!

Molly B.

[lockman]

ISP playing the political mind games. I would also contact your local state rep & senator they will often inquire on your behalf. I would also file the appeal relating to your current denial. Unfortunately the ISP Administration of the FOID section are criminal thugs and have total disregard for the rule of law. Where is the US attorney when you need them.

[BShawn]

Shawn,

 

Are you a member of the Illinois State Rifle Association? It is my understanding that they may be able to offer you some guidance or at least recommend legal council that could help you solve this problem.

 

This stinks!

Molly B.

 

No I am not currently a member of the ISRA I will look into the possibility of that TY!

[BShawn]

ISP playing the political mind games. I would also contact your local state rep & senator they will often inquire on your behalf. I would also file the appeal relating to your current denial. Unfortunately the ISP Administration of the FOID section are criminal thugs and have total disregard for the rule of law. Where is the US attorney when you need them.

 

I am pretty sure my

senator is Don Harmon

reps are Angelo Saviano, Deborah L. Graham

 

at this point in time. If you are speaking of the senator and rep from where the 'incident' first occurred on 03/21/2003 that would be different since I no longer live where the incident took place. At the time of the incident, in Streamwood I believe the

senator to be Michael Noland

reps would be Fred Crespo, Ruth Munson

 

Plus if it would be at all to my advantage, I recently acquired a Wood Dale, IL address that I could use making my

senator would be Carole Pankau

reps would be Franco Coladipietro, Dennis M. Reboletti

[Buzzard]

I would advise that you to store your firearms and ammunition with your father until you get this thing sorted out. I realize you may not be happy in doing this, but the last thing you need is an arrest for possession of firearms without a valid FOID. Then join the ISRA and see if they can help you.

 

I hope things work out for you soon.

[BShawn]

I would advise that you to store your firearms and ammunition with your father until you get this thing sorted out. I realize you may not be happy in doing this, but the last thing you need is an arrest for possession of firearms without a valid FOID. Then join the ISRA and see if they can help you.

 

I hope things work out for you soon.

 

I am sorry I did fail to mention that I already am doing that, I know my main issue is in this states flaws with taking away a piece of paper from someone opposed to actually disarming them. Now knowing that I am a law abiding citizen I am biased to being glad that they didn't physically disarm me, but at the same time further illustrates that they are NOT doing their jobs (the laws or the 'people') So I suppose it would be better of them to physically disarm someone who WAS a threat by having a firearm, at the same time I am against it as a whole because THEY make that choice!!!???!!! Which I can see the flaw in that since they have found me 'unfit' to posses or transport firearms or firearm ammunition.

Yes, I do not want to further complicate things in my scenario! At any rate he respects that it is my weapon and does not use it, so it at least is not literally collecting dust. He of course is storing it properly (Thank you dad) and of course yes, I am *not* happy having to store my weapons out of state with him, a lot of good they do me there if a criminal breaks into my residence here!!!

 

It would be nice to kiss the FOID goodbye, I see nothing wrong with the normal background checks systems used in other states based off of citizens DLs! I also know that if the FOID act disappeared I would not be having the problems I am now... I find the FOID highly flawed AND unjust!

[BShawn]

Thinking of which I haven't really seen or heard any discussions regarding abolishing the FOID...

[Buzzard]

Thinking of which I haven't really seen or heard any discussions regarding abolishing the FOID...

The FOID card will soon be a ten year card. And there is currently a bill (HB5191) in the senate rules committee to revoke a Firearm Owner's Identification Card of a parent or guardian of a person under 21 years of age who is unable to prevent his or her child under 21 years of age from gaining access to a firearm or ammunition. So as you can see, the state is still adding to the FOID act.

[BShawn]

Thinking of which I haven't really seen or heard any discussions regarding abolishing the FOID...

The FOID card will soon be a ten year card. And there is currently a bill (HB5191) in the senate rules committee to revoke a Firearm Owner's Identification Card of a parent or guardian of a person under 21 years of age who is unable to prevent his or her child under 21 years of age from gaining access to a firearm or ammunition. So as you can see, the state is still adding to the FOID act.

 

Well I am against it in general, and not just because of the scenario that I am in. I do suppose I can 'deal' if I am able to straighten my scenario out though... I of course would not oppose the card being valid for 10 years opposed to 5, although that new revocation provision sounds like BS !

[BShawn]

Shawn,

 

"may be able to offer you some guidance or at least recommend legal council"

 

This stinks!

Molly B.

 

If I needed to retain an attorney for any purposes I have heard (and been given the phone number to) a Walter Maksym that I have been told is a very good firearms related lawyer out of Chicago.

 

My only downfall to needing an attorney for anything is going to be any costs. I don't know that I would be able to afford the costs of hiring an attorney to handle this matter for me, if at all even possible for them to do anything for me. I think I may attempt to get even further advice on my matter from Walter come monday.

[junglebob]

ISP playing the political mind games. I would also contact your local state rep & senator they will often inquire on your behalf. I would also file the appeal relating to your current denial. Unfortunately the ISP Administration of the FOID section are criminal thugs and have total disregard for the rule of law. Where is the US attorney when you need them.

They have a total disregard for law, that is why they decided not to issue to anyone under 10 years of age, even though nothing in state law sets a minimum age for the FOID card. Seems like more bureucrats who can't understand what "shall not be infringed" in the State constitution means.

[Blaster]

I think you need to start with calling ISP and ask them to send you documentation on:

 

1. Why your FOID application was rejected.

 

2. Info on the appeal process.

 

Get everything in black and white then go from there.

 

I don't see why you should have to provide all the proof that they say they need. They have the data base.

[BShawn]

Well, I potentially have good news. I just got off of the phone with Linette from the ISP firearms division. She has stated that my application has (only) "temporarily" been denied so that they can pull up some of my old 'stuff'. She stated that a letter of the such is being sent to me, stating they need 30 additional days to review 'my case'. So according to her, my application has not yet (indefinitely) been approved or denied... Thank you for all the advice / help Blaster, Molly B, Lockman, Buzzard, and Junglebob.

 

I will surely keep everyone posted with any new developments as they come, as this is not over until I have a valid FOID card in my hands...

Then it's back to (re-joining) the CCW battle!

[w00dc4ip]

If I needed to retain an attorney for any purposes I have heard (and been given the phone number to) a Walter Maksym that I have been told is a very good firearms related lawyer out of Chicago.

 

My only downfall to needing an attorney for anything is going to be any costs. I don't know that I would be able to afford the costs of hiring an attorney to handle this matter for me, if at all even possible for them to do anything for me. I think I may attempt to get even further advice on my matter from Walter come monday.

BShawn, assuming you have to hire an attorney, if it's shown that they wrongfully denied your request for a FOID card and you had to hire an attorney in order to re-establish your right to own firearms (get a FOID), I'd suggest you sue the ISP and the Streamwood Police Department that caused the initial problem for all legal fees and attorney costs, not to mention punitive damages. Not sure if it would work, but that's what I'd do if I were in a similar situation. Discuss it with Walter and see what he says.

 

w00dc4ip

[BShawn]

If I needed to retain an attorney for any purposes I have heard (and been given the phone number to) a Walter Maksym that I have been told is a very good firearms related lawyer out of Chicago.

 

My only downfall to needing an attorney for anything is going to be any costs. I don't know that I would be able to afford the costs of hiring an attorney to handle this matter for me, if at all even possible for them to do anything for me. I think I may attempt to get even further advice on my matter from Walter come monday.

BShawn, assuming you have to hire an attorney, if it's shown that they wrongfully denied your request for a FOID card and you had to hire an attorney in order to re-establish your right to own firearms (get a FOID), I'd suggest you sue the ISP and the Streamwood Police Department that caused the initial problem for all legal fees and attorney costs, not to mention punitive damages. Not sure if it would work, but that's what I'd do if I were in a similar situation. Discuss it with Walter and see what he says.

 

w00dc4ip

 

I am really hoping not to have to hire an atty. over this matter. Specially since they do have no grounds for not issuing a card to me at this point. So for the meantime since I know my app. is 'under review' for the next 30 days I will happily wait it out. I am not going to contact Mr Maksym or any attorney at this point until after I know if after 30 days I will have a valid FOID card in my hands, or yet another denial. If I have a valid FOID card in my hands within another 30 days I will be one 'happy camper' if I am yet to be denied then it's right back to the drawing boards.

[AuroraBob]

I'm in the same spot as you. I waited the 5 years and sent my app last month. On day 31 (last week) I called and talked to a female customer service rep who told me the same thing - it was automatically denied, but goes to a supervisor for a database check. If you're clear they'll issue, and she said she would take care of it.

 

I called back today and talked to another rep who told me there were no notes from her at all on my record, she didn't do anything, and that HE will get it to a supervisor... call back next week...

 

So I guess the moral of the story is to never believe anything they tell you and call often. And ALWAYS get the name of the people you talk to.

[junglebob]

If I needed to retain an attorney for any purposes I have heard (and been given the phone number to) a Walter Maksym that I have been told is a very good firearms related lawyer out of Chicago.

 

My only downfall to needing an attorney for anything is going to be any costs. I don't know that I would be able to afford the costs of hiring an attorney to handle this matter for me, if at all even possible for them to do anything for me. I think I may attempt to get even further advice on my matter from Walter come monday.

BShawn, assuming you have to hire an attorney, if it's shown that they wrongfully denied your request for a FOID card and you had to hire an attorney in order to re-establish your right to own firearms (get a FOID), I'd suggest you sue the ISP and the Streamwood Police Department that caused the initial problem for all legal fees and attorney costs, not to mention punitive damages. Not sure if it would work, but that's what I'd do if I were in a similar situation. Discuss it with Walter and see what he says.

 

w00dc4ip

 

I am really hoping not to have to hire an atty. over this matter. Specially since they do have no grounds for not issuing a card to me at this point. So for the meantime since I know my app. is 'under review' for the next 30 days I will happily wait it out. I am not going to contact Mr Maksym or any attorney at this point until after I know if after 30 days I will have a valid FOID card in my hands, or yet another denial. If I have a valid FOID card in my hands within another 30 days I will be one 'happy camper' if I am yet to be denied then it's right back to the drawing boards.

I would talk to my state rep and state senator about this matter, if they wouldn't get involoved I think I'd try a state rep that has introduced positive gun legislation, like conceal carry bills, or a state senator who has done the same or been a sponsor on them.

[abolt243]

I am pretty sure my

senator is Don Harmon

reps are Angelo Saviano, Deborah L. Graham

 

at this point in time. If you are speaking of the senator and rep from where the 'incident' first occurred on 03/21/2003 that would be different since I no longer live where the incident took place. At the time of the incident, in Streamwood I believe the

senator to be Michael Noland

reps would be Fred Crespo, Ruth Munson

 

Plus if it would be at all to my advantage, I recently acquired a Wood Dale, IL address that I could use making my

senator would be Carole Pankau

reps would be Franco Coladipietro, Dennis M. Reboletti

 

Judging from this, you first need to figure out who your rep and senator are. Go here and put in your current mailing address. That will give you the names of all your elected officials. You have one State Senator and only one Representative. There are two Reps for each Senator, but they serve separate districts.

 

If I've misinterpreted your post and you know this, sorry.

 

AB

[Chiburbian]

BShawn,

 

I worked 7 years at a local hospital watching people like you who were considered "suicidal" and always wondered what happened to their rights after they were brought in.

 

Your scenario is exactly what I feared would happen.

 

Unfortunately - every step of the way from the time you were brought in by the police, to the time where you were (likely) watched by security, to the reaction by the ISP and psychiatrists is a reaction to presumed liability. Everyone along the line is afraid they will be prosecuted in the event you end your life or injure yourself and so they deny you the chance to let the truth be heard - that you are NOT mentally incapable of possessing a firearm.

 

This is totally f'ed up and I wish you the best.

[BShawn]

BShawn,

 

I worked 7 years at a local hospital watching people like you who were considered "suicidal" and always wondered what happened to their rights after they were brought in.

 

Your scenario is exactly what I feared would happen.

 

Unfortunately - every step of the way from the time you were brought in by the police, to the time where you were (likely) watched by security, to the reaction by the ISP and psychiatrists is a reaction to presumed liability. Everyone along the line is afraid they will be prosecuted in the event you end your life or injure yourself and so they deny you the chance to let the truth be heard - that you are NOT mentally incapable of possessing a firearm.

 

This is totally f'ed up and I wish you the best.

 

Thank you indeed.

[BShawn]

I'm in the same spot as you. I waited the 5 years and sent my app last month. On day 31 (last week) I called and talked to a female customer service rep who told me the same thing - it was automatically denied, but goes to a supervisor for a database check. If you're clear they'll issue, and she said she would take care of it.

 

I called back today and talked to another rep who told me there were no notes from her at all on my record, she didn't do anything, and that HE will get it to a supervisor... call back next week...

 

So I guess the moral of the story is to never believe anything they tell you and call often. And ALWAYS get the name of the people you talk to.

 

PM sent

[BShawn]

I am pretty sure my

senator is Don Harmon

reps are Angelo Saviano, Deborah L. Graham

 

at this point in time. If you are speaking of the senator and rep from where the 'incident' first occurred on 03/21/2003 that would be different since I no longer live where the incident took place. At the time of the incident, in Streamwood I believe the

senator to be Michael Noland

reps would be Fred Crespo, Ruth Munson

 

Plus if it would be at all to my advantage, I recently acquired a Wood Dale, IL address that I could use making my

senator would be Carole Pankau

reps would be Franco Coladipietro, Dennis M. Reboletti

 

Judging from this, you first need to figure out who your rep and senator are. Go here and put in your current mailing address. That will give you the names of all your elected officials. You have one State Senator and only one Representative. There are two Reps for each Senator, but they serve separate districts.

 

If I've misinterpreted your post and you know this, sorry.

 

AB

 

Thank you much! That appears to be much easier opposed to the method I used.

[BShawn]

I called the ISP again today (19th) (spoke with Mark) just to check up on things. I was told that there has been a request submitted for my 'file' from the archives, but it has not yet been received. (Supposedly) once the archives are received there will be a final decision made on if I will be issued my card or not...

 

I was told to check back in one week for status...

 

I will continue to post any updates, if anything, at the least it can serve as a 'backup log' for myself in the event I need to know when I called them...

[mikew]

Well, did BShawn join the ISRA or not?

 

The ISRA has a legal referral service that will connect him with an attorney willing to represent him in this matter.

He does not have to be a member in order to ask about the legal referral, but frankly, he should be a member anyways.

[BShawn]

I called the ISP again today. This time I spoke with Megan who in turn stated that they do not give out their last names there (but that she was the only megan there). She wound up transferring me to Linette when she must have seen some form of notation on my "file" that Linette has had something to do with "my case" in the past. Linette then looked up my information confirming a May 6th receipt (a little odd when I mailed it certified / return receipt that proves an APRIL 7th receipt by the office) and that it looks like no decision has been made yet... She did take down my personal phone number and stated she would have a supervisor call me tomorrow (05/28/2008)

[abolt243]

I called the ISP again today. This time I spoke with Megan who in turn stated that they do not give out their last names there (but that she was the only megan there). She wound up transferring me to Linette when she must have seen some form of notation on my "file" that Linette has had something to do with "my case" in the past. Linette then looked up my information confirming a May 6th receipt (a little odd when I mailed it certified / return receipt that proves an APRIL 7th receipt by the office) and that it looks like no decision has been made yet... She did take down my personal phone number and stated she would have a supervisor call me tomorrow (05/28/2008)

 

Did you happen to mention that you had documentation showing that your application had been recieved at thier office on April 7 and signed by ******? You may want to call back tomorrow and share that with them. The law says "approve or deny all applications 30 days after they are received". Push it a little.

 

Did you see the post by MikeW?? I would encourage you to contact the ISRA and let them get involved. Oh, by the way, there's a link at the top of this page that takes you to the ISRA sign up page. Just in case you wanted to visit.

 

Good Luck!

AB

[Ocellairs]

...I have a monkey wrench of sort to throw in this mess.

 

If a FOID card is denied to an Illinois resident. Would that fact follow that individual to another state where that individual could/would take up residence. Would that action then preclude that individual from obtaining a license if one is needed in that state of new residence?

 

I never thought of such a matter till reading this thread.

[abolt243]

...I have a monkey wrench of sort to throw in this mess.

 

If a FOID card is denied to an Illinois resident. Would that fact follow that individual to another state where that individual could/would take up residence. Would that action then preclude that individual from obtaining a license if one is needed in that state of new residence?

 

I never thought of such a matter till reading this thread.

 

 

Probably depends on the reason for denial and the new state of residence. Might be that a certain length of residence in the new state w/o problems would expunge the record from IL. Maybe not.

 

AB